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Wisconsin's Catholic child abuse anguish
BBC ^ | 26 March 2010 | Matthew Price

Posted on 03/27/2010 3:29:23 AM PDT by Gamecock

What must it feel like to have lost 50 years of your life? For that is what 61-year old Arthur Budzinski has endured.

Five long decades of personal pain.

And he has to rely on others to speak of his anguish.

It is made worse by the fact that no-one has been held to account for the sexual abuse he says he suffered as a child while at the Roman Catholic St John's School for the Deaf in St Francis, Wisconsin.

Arthur and around 200 other boys are said to have been sexually abused at the school by Father Lawrence Murphy, a Catholic priest.

He says he and others told members of the clergy back then that they were being watched, touched and exploited by Fr Murphy.

No-one listened.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Current Events
KEYWORDS: agendadrivenfreeper; arthurbudzinski; catholic; childabuse; clergy; freformed; lawrencemurphy; priest; sexualabuse; wisconsin
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To: the_conscience

You wrote:

“But I don’t see where Scripture tells us to hide the truth so we don’t hurt someones feelings.”

Where in scripture does it say it’s okay for you to make things up against posters at FR?


81 posted on 03/27/2010 1:17:50 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: the_conscience
But I don't see where Scripture tells us to hide the truth

Speaking of the truth, where, exactly are those "Romanist pedophile camps"?

82 posted on 03/27/2010 1:20:15 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: Campion
No more so than I am obligated to conform to yours.

Indeed. But I wasn't the one demanding that you conform to some mainstream definition. I clearly defined conservative as those who hold to the classical liberal principles of our founders. I have yet to hear your definition. I would suppose it to be some Romanist Natural Law principle.

83 posted on 03/27/2010 1:20:29 PM PDT by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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To: Campion

Wherever priests are abusing children.


84 posted on 03/27/2010 1:21:12 PM PDT by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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To: the_conscience
I clearly defined conservative as those who hold to the classical liberal principles of our founders.

Which principles, and which founders?

Thomas Jefferson, a Deist who edited his own version of the Bible, leaving out all of that icky Christian stuff?

Thomas Paine, who called Christianity an "outrage on common sense" and said that the Bible was a "history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind"?

Or Charles Carroll of Carrollton, who was, well, a Romanist?

If you don't think the Pope is infallible on matters of religion, I don't think you ought to take "the founders" as infallible on matters of political philosophy. It's bad form.

Conservatives are people who believe in capitalism, limited government, the rule of law, and "natural rights" -- that is, that people have certain human rights by virtue of their nature as human beings, not because some external human entity decides to recognize them.

85 posted on 03/27/2010 1:34:05 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: the_conscience; Campion

Campion, the_conscience apparently believes he can say anything (no matter how ludicrous) and that it is just fine as long as it opposes the Catholic Church. I don’t believe he cares about the truth. I don’t believe he believes lying is wrong - as long as it attacks the Catholic Church.


86 posted on 03/27/2010 1:35:01 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: the_conscience
Wherever priests are abusing children.

So if I started talking about "Presbyterian adultery camps," and you inquired what I meant, and I responded, "Wherever ministers are seducing married women from the congregation," you would consider that a satisfactory answer?

87 posted on 03/27/2010 1:36:49 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: MinorityRepublican
Then priests need to be allowed to marry. It’ll be easy to get rid of all child molesters hiding behind the robe.

A specious, at best, conclusion germinated by a simple mind which is at a loss to explain the behavior of these deviants since he/she/it can't use the "celibacy is the reason" crutch.

By the way, Einstein, the vast majority of pedophiles are married men.

88 posted on 03/27/2010 1:53:28 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: the_conscience

I have not once made an effort or a post to hide the truth that this thread is about. I am committed to Truth and to the truth.

As for iron sharpening iron—I’m assured that the Lord Jesus did not give that commandment to those who would follow Him. Rather He said that we were to be like Him—meek and humble of heart. It wasn’t in vain that He said that to us.

When there comes a time that iron must sharpen iron, it will be God’s handiwork and His doing.

Meanwhile, on this thread and the many like it popping up on this forum in the past few days, there have been Catholic posters who made it very clear that they were not protecting abusers or that they not failed to acknowledge the seriousness of this situation.

At the same time, many Catholic posters have expressed concerns that there’s a media juggernaut against the Pope. That has also provided fodder for those on this forum who appear to welcome any and all opportunities to discredit not only the Pope but those who stand with him in his way of the Cross.

There are many accusations and accusers, and the more there are threads like this, the more the accusers band together to denounce and accuse.

This is an injustice. It does much to contribute to ill will and vitriol and contempt and, in the end, has nothing to give that is profitable for anyone.


89 posted on 03/27/2010 2:05:37 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: A.A. Cunningham

You hit the nail on the head. 8% of married compared to 4% for priest. Good for you to point out. Boy, the Hate really is trying to flow. And who is the master of hate! Hmmm The old serpent perhaps? And when we have hate in our hearts Christ says we commit murder. But then when your guranteed to be saved and dont have to answer to no one- let the hate flow?


90 posted on 03/27/2010 2:13:10 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
John Allan(sic) may be flaming, but he sure isn't liberal!

More evidence that your doctorate was obtained via a mail order diploma mill advertising in Popular Science.

91 posted on 03/27/2010 2:18:59 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: the_conscience
Like here.
92 posted on 03/27/2010 2:27:00 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: wmfights
94% of RC's in the legislature voted for nationalized HC.

You are not telling the truth.

93 posted on 03/27/2010 2:29:33 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: bronx2; the_conscience
You and your buddies should picket the nearest Romanist camp this weekend.

Armed and ready! Bring it on!!

94 posted on 03/27/2010 2:35:29 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: the_conscience; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper; Dutchboy88; RnMomof7; HarleyD; Quix; ...
If you or I found out children were being tyrannized in our particular Christian society we would not just simply allow the leadership of that society to quietly sweep it under the rug and allow the abuse to continue.

By not reporting the CRIME aren't you aiding and abetting?

95 posted on 03/27/2010 2:42:07 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
I think you'd have to be knowingly concealing material evidence to do that, but IANAL.
96 posted on 03/27/2010 2:45:41 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: HarleyD

The Pope was following the confidential orders of the Crimen Sollicitationis to hide the facts, support the priest and deny. The Vatican is still doing that.

oh please, get a life


97 posted on 03/27/2010 3:06:33 PM PDT by terycarl (4)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

2) One of the main reasons for this supposed time lapse is that under threat of excommunication, the victim must wait 10 years after he reaches the age of 18 to even speak about the crime with anyone other than a priest

who on earth told you that piece of nonsense?????any child who is molested should tell everyone he knows about it, his or her parents, teachers, trusted adult friend....anyone.....and they will not be excommunicated.....sheesh


98 posted on 03/27/2010 3:16:51 PM PDT by terycarl (4)
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To: Marysecretary

think they know quite a bit. Catholics just don’t want to hear it.

again, welcome back, and again, you still have no idea of what you are talking about. For some, it is better just to listen and learn from those who do indeed, have some idea of what’s happening.....and your next post concerning infant baptism was just as uninformed as was this one....


99 posted on 03/27/2010 3:46:43 PM PDT by terycarl (4)
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To: All
An important update to this story.

Summary:

The canonical process to formally remove Murphy from the priesthood was underway until 2 days before his death, and was never halted nor impeded by Rome.

Abp. Weakland sat on the case for 19 years before telling Rome about it. Canon law authorized him to act without Rome's approval during this entire period. He did nothing.

100 posted on 03/27/2010 4:38:22 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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