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Mary of Nazareth As The Bible Defines Her
The Ignorant Fishermen Blog ^ | 4/8/10 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 04/08/2010 2:47:10 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

This study seeks to present from God's Holy Word what the Bible teaches about Mary of Nazareth, the young Jewish virgin that bore the Messiah, the Savior of the World. In this study we will seek to look at EVERY Bible verse found in the Holy Scriptures that pertains to Mary of Nazareth. Be sure to check out all the links for this study, for they will provide a deeper perspective into the person of Mary.

Introduction

In beginning this study, the clarifying statement should be made that the Bible, God’s infallible (reliable) and immaculate (perfect) Word, is the FINAL AUTHORITY when it comes to ALL matters pertaining to the truth of Christianity, which includes Mary (2 Peter 1:20-21; 2 Timothy 3:16).

The Lord Jesus Christ gave countless warnings to BEWARE false teachers and false teachings. And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man DECEIVE YOU (Gospel of Saint Matthew 24:4).

Saint Paul also warned us to BEWARE of false teachings and fables. Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables (2 Timothy 4:2-4).

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God’s infallible (reliable) and immaculate (perfect) Word, is the FINAL AUTHORITY when it comes to ALL matters pertaining to the truth of Christianity, which includes Mary
1 posted on 04/08/2010 2:47:10 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Amen!


2 posted on 04/08/2010 2:54:10 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Mary’s final words in the Bible are some of the best advice you could ever get.


3 posted on 04/08/2010 3:17:51 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

All I can say to such an insult to the Blessed Mother of God is this: you are ignorant indeed!


4 posted on 04/08/2010 3:28:20 PM PDT by I-ambush (I didn't think, I never dreamed, that I would be around to see it all come true-McCartney and Wings)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

An attack on the Immaculate Conception and the perpetual virginity of Mary.

The Immaculate Conception doctrine is debatable among Christians, but Mary’s perpetual virginity has always been Christian tradition. To claim that the Bible teaches against it is simply false.

The larger question, I suppose, is why some who imagine themselves Christian feel the need to be so strongly schismatic.


5 posted on 04/08/2010 4:00:44 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

A hit on Mary and the Catholic Church entangling them both with Satan is what I’d refer to as demonic. But fear not; maybe your guardian angel has very long arms.


6 posted on 04/08/2010 4:10:23 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: I-ambush

“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables (2 Timothy 4:2-4).”

A so St. Paul prophesied the reformation would come...


7 posted on 04/08/2010 4:11:22 PM PDT by arielguard (Fasting without prayer is vainglory.)
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To: iowamark

“To claim that the Bible teaches against it is simply false”

Relying on the Infancy Gospel of James? or some false writing like it?


8 posted on 04/08/2010 4:17:31 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: iowamark
The really pregnant question is how could someone who fancies himself a Bible scholar pretend to write a treatise on the Bible's definition of Mary with reference to 1 Luke 28?
9 posted on 04/08/2010 4:22:42 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: I-ambush
Mt friend...It's all Scripture... I said nothing... You do not have a problem with me but with the Holy Spirit.

I didn't mean to offered your OWN thoughts about her... but just pointing via Scripture to what the Scriptures speak about her.

My dear Friend, Humble your self and let the Holy Scriptures describe her to you... she still is as lovely as ever!

10 posted on 04/08/2010 4:24:50 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: iowamark
There is NO SARCASIM AT ALL.... Immaculate Conception and the perpetual virginity of Mary does not exist in the Bible. As you stated it is a tradition not Scriptural fact. Please try to find it. We listed evry verse pertaining to Mary found in the Holy Script. I know this must be a blow to all that you have been taught as it was to me. But I want to see her as Almighty God's Word states and describes her. She still is lovely. Let her be who she truly is. That is God's commandment.
11 posted on 04/08/2010 4:29:05 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: mlizzy
If your or my “view” contradicts any single jot or tittle of Holy Script it is Satanic and it is rebellion. That is not my personal evaluation and warning but Almighty God's. You don't have a problem with me but with Almighty God. Read the verses and point out my error about Mary. Dear friend let go of your tradition and just believe God and His Word.
12 posted on 04/08/2010 4:34:04 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Yes, Mary’s perpetual virginity is not explicitly in the Bible. More to the point, neither is your anti-virginity thesis.

Even more importantly, your schismatic attack on traditional Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant Christians is simply evil. It does you no credit.


13 posted on 04/08/2010 4:37:20 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: arielguard
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables (2 Timothy 4:2-4).” A so St. Paul prophesied the reformation would come...

I don't think I've ever seen a more perfect example of misapplication of scripture. What "sound doctrine" were the reformers not enduring - the purchase of indulgences, perhaps? And what "lusts" was William Tyndale fulfilling by getting himself burned at the stake?

14 posted on 04/08/2010 4:38:55 PM PDT by nomodem
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To: arielguard

LOL.. Are you so blind?... great verse… but who follows TRADITIONS? and who has given themselves over to false teachers and fables... Is it not all those who reject this teaching and the majority of Scriptures. All I posted was Scripture verses pertaining to Mary. Why does that bother you. If you were aligned with god you would Amen this post…

Back your position with the Holy Scripture. You can’t. I know. I was once like you. Don’t be offended of what God’s Holy Word clearly teaches.. Be bold, brave and believe!!!! but in doing so you will find that the majority of what you were taught, believed and trusted your whole life has been wrong. I know my friend.. That is the heart of the matter. It truly is!


15 posted on 04/08/2010 4:42:03 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: iowamark

To: The Ignorant Fisherman
An attack on the Immaculate Conception and the perpetual virginity of Mary.

The Immaculate Conception doctrine is debatable among Christians, but Mary’s perpetual virginity has always been Christian tradition. To claim that the Bible teaches against it is simply false.

The larger question, I suppose, is why some who imagine themselves Christian feel the need to be so strongly schismatic.

————————I don’t understand. Mary had other children, by Joseph, how could she be a perpetual virgin? Yes, at the time of Christ’s immaculate conception, but not with the other children. Right? So no, I did not see this as an attack at all on the immaculate conception. But frankly, I have never heard,read or been told that Mary was always (perpetually) a virgin. Yes, that one immaculate conception is perpetual.(going on for forever). In Christian teachings, reading etc, I am not aware of a ‘tradition’ that you speak of.


16 posted on 04/08/2010 4:54:58 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: iowamark

Woe to them that call good evil and evil good.(Isaiah 5:20)

God’s Word clearly states that she was intament with her husband and that she had other children.

And KNEW HER NOT till she had brought forth her FIRSTBORN son: and he called his name JESUS (St. Matthew 1:18-25).

not ONLY son but her FIRSTBORN son

Note for example John 3:16-17 - Gave his ONLY begotten Son
Knew her not TILL..

http://net.bible.org/strong.php?id=1097 (The Greek Word) To Know by experience

It does not get any clearer then that. I know... it’s hard to let go of all that you were taught, your tradition and your whole lives perception.

This is what God’s Word teaches. It is not my opinion. My sincere desire is that you let God’s Word say what it states and mean what it means. Don’t you want to be right with God?


17 posted on 04/08/2010 5:01:51 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: presently no screen name

Ping...


18 posted on 04/08/2010 5:02:57 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Freddd

Mary’s perpetual virginity has been Christian teaching for two thousand years. She and Joseph did not have children after Christ. Scriptural reference to Jesus’ “brothers” could mean cousins or Joseph’s children from his first marriage. The original Greek is not the same as our English word “brother.”

See, for example:

http://www.goarch.org/ourfaith/ourfaith9174

http://www.oca.org/QA.asp?ID=204&SID=3


19 posted on 04/08/2010 5:05:19 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

I don’t want to argue with you. You are twisting Old English translations to claim something the original authors did not say. Why? So that you can claim that you are the only true Christian?


20 posted on 04/08/2010 5:09:40 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
...As The Bible Defines Her

Should be a short article.

21 posted on 04/08/2010 5:10:33 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Matthew 1:18-25 say nothing on what happened after Jesus was born. Read what is written and don’t fantacize about it.


22 posted on 04/08/2010 5:15:28 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Freddd
Mary had other children

No she didn't. Every time Jesus's "brother" is mentioned by name, whe know who his mother is, and she is not Mary.

"Immaculate conception", by the way, refers to the conception of Mary, not of Jesus.

23 posted on 04/08/2010 5:18:31 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
A question that has always intrigued me was
why do some Christians require goddess worship ?

The need to create something that does not exist in the Word.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

24 posted on 04/08/2010 5:21:57 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: BibChr

it is! that is my point. as I started to read the Bible as a young Catholic I thought to my self.....WHERE IS MARY!!!! The truth has set me free indeed!


25 posted on 04/08/2010 5:23:22 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: annalex
Matthew 1:18-25 say nothing on what happened after Jesus was born. Read what is written and don’t fantacize about it.

24When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. 25But he had no union with her until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.
26 posted on 04/08/2010 5:23:31 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: annalex
It's there if you do not want to believe God's Word or not... that is your prerogative... God didn't have to state aton of info He kept it simple... He was not focusing on Mary but the Savior!
27 posted on 04/08/2010 5:25:18 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
As is usual with those who are outside of Christ's Church the attacker begins with a false premise and then attacks the Church on that premise.


28 posted on 04/08/2010 5:27:06 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
I know... Is not Yah'shua HaMashiach the King of kings enough... ???? I sure think He is... Eternally enough. shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
29 posted on 04/08/2010 5:28:09 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

It’s all about Jesus.


30 posted on 04/08/2010 5:33:18 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: presently no screen name

Exactly. Like I said, nothing about Joseph following the birth of Jesus.


31 posted on 04/08/2010 5:41:14 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

What “is there”?

Regarding focusing on Mary, you are the one who posted the article.


32 posted on 04/08/2010 5:42:25 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

It is IN there... the truth...


33 posted on 04/08/2010 5:58:12 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Mr. Lucky; iowamark
That should have been:

...without reference to 1 Luke 28.

34 posted on 04/08/2010 6:52:50 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: presently no screen name

I have never seen an English New Testament that actually reads UNION were KNEW HER was in that verse. What Version did you use. I personally own several translations. Anyway it usually reads different. It means only that Joseph had nothing to do with the conception of Jesus. It implies nothing as to what happened afterward. Thats why it is stated so you knew it was the virgin woman from the Book of Isaiah prediction. Its not stating That There was sex later. That wording is used alot in the old testament. I believe in 2samuel 6:23 It reads in some translation Michal had no children until her death. Does that mean she had children after death?


35 posted on 04/08/2010 8:02:16 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: iowamark; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...

To: The Ignorant Fisherman
An attack on the Immaculate Conception and the perpetual virginity of Mary.

The Immaculate Conception doctrine is debatable among Christians, but Mary’s perpetual virginity has always been Christian tradition. To claim that the Bible teaches against it is simply false.

The larger question, I suppose, is why some who imagine themselves Christian feel the need to be so strongly schismatic.


36 posted on 04/08/2010 8:03:54 PM PDT by narses (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

HERE”S GOOD CATHOLIC VIEWS BIBLICAL EVIDENCE FOR THE PERPETUAL VIRGINITY OF MARYhttp://socrates58.blogspot.com/2010/02/biblical-evidence-for-perpetual.html -http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2008/11/who-wrote-book-of-james-james-lords.html


37 posted on 04/08/2010 8:27:11 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

The First born son is written that you know that he is a Priest. Because the First born son is given into service of the Lord in the Levitical Law. Its not proof of brothers or sisters. Its really an expression phrase denotes for the Priesthood.Thats why the Gospel writers have it in there to emphasize. Since he is a priest in the order of mecizacdech.Which also explains why theres not much written from 12 to 30 because his levitical priesthood starts and ends when he is 30 to 33 years old as required. He can and is the only child of Mary. May God Bless and Guide You


38 posted on 04/08/2010 8:58:02 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: annalex
Exactly. Like I said, nothing about Joseph following the birth of Jesus.

Well, actually, you said..... Matthew 1:18-25 say nothing on what happened after Jesus was born

Something did happen after Jesus was born. Matt 1:18-25 But he had NO UNION with her UNTIL she gave birth to a son
39 posted on 04/08/2010 9:16:25 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: johngrace
Joseph had nothing to do with the conception of Jesus.

No one is claiming that falsehood - not too sure why you felt the need to bring it up.
40 posted on 04/08/2010 9:20:32 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


41 posted on 04/08/2010 9:49:27 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: iowamark; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

NOPE.

WRONG AGAIN.

A lie from the deceiver.

A revisionist rubber history deception.


42 posted on 04/08/2010 9:51:09 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


43 posted on 04/08/2010 9:52:27 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ..

There is NO SARCASIM AT ALL.... Immaculate Conception and the perpetual virginity of Mary does not exist in the Bible. As you stated it is a tradition not Scriptural fact. Please try to find it. We listed evry verse pertaining to Mary found in the Holy Script. I know this must be a blow to all that you have been taught as it was to me. But I want to see her as Almighty God’s Word states and describes her. She still is lovely. Let her be who she truly is. That is God’s commandment.

#########

INDEED! AMEN!

WELL SAID.

THX.

And, imho, regardless of the Christian denomination or congregation . . . the degree of idolatry seems to be related to the intensity of the rabid defense of said idolatry—maybe not a 1:1 correlation but certainly in that direction.


44 posted on 04/08/2010 9:54:45 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


45 posted on 04/08/2010 9:55:16 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Freddd

INDEED.


46 posted on 04/08/2010 10:02:42 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

INDEED.


47 posted on 04/08/2010 10:03:15 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: iowamark; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

WRONG.

The bureaucratic political powermongering elites of the club in Rome cleverly capitalized on some traditions some Christians were fond of 300 or so years after Christ.

However, startlingly, most of the Marian heresies were not very formalized until the modern era.

IIRC, —many even in the last century.

Incredible.


48 posted on 04/08/2010 10:05:58 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

INDEED.


49 posted on 04/08/2010 10:06:56 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ..

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

The caricature of Mary foisted off on the world by the Vatican edifice all these years . . .

is some fabrication by political theological elite power mongers . . . cleverly adding a whole new industry and related revenues to their collection schemes.


50 posted on 04/08/2010 10:10:05 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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