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The Seven Year Peace Treaty in Israel Has Been Signed.......... |
http://beforeitsnews.com/news/34247/The_Seven_Year_Peace_Treaty_in_Israel_Has_Been_Signed.html ^ | April 18th, 2010

Posted on 04/19/2010 11:45:07 AM PDT by TaraP

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To: camerongood210
I know that the descendents of the Old Testament Levite and Cohen priests are training to serve in the soon-to-be-rebuilt Temple, and, according to the Temple Institute, they are well on their way to having all the sacred vessels needed to conduct the rituals in the rebuilt Temple.

One very exciting development is the fact that Israel apparently now has more than one kosher red heifer ready for sacrifices in the Temple.

I would say that plans are well underway!

101 posted on 04/19/2010 2:07:22 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Genoa; Quix
My problem is that if the Rapture is imminent, and the seven-year period can only start once it has happened, then that means that a Temple can be approved, built, and up-and-running in time for the AC to set up his image in it, all within three and a half years from now.

THe Temple will be built prior to the Tribulation. Look at the passage concerning the two witnesses.

Rev. 11:3And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand, two hundred and sixty days,...

The witnesses are prophesying outside the Temple for 3 1/2 years (360 days x 3.5). This may also answer your earlier question about how people come to know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior during this time. The witnesses are testifying.

102 posted on 04/19/2010 2:19:13 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: TaraP

Of fundamental importance in studying Prophecy is that the terms used are words used by God to communicate to man.

When He speaks of the Temple, he isn’t referencing any religious structure. Instead, His Word is consistent with itself. When He speaks of an abomination that brings desolation occurring in the Temple, it will be a dwelling place of God, not a false god.

Study His Word and let His Word interpret the meanings.

IMHO, neither the Great Tribulation, nor Rapture have yet occurred, we are still in the Church Age prior to the Second Coming. The Great Tribulation commences when Israel seeks security by signing a covenant with the AntiChrist en lieu of placing faith in what God provides her. 3-1/2 yrs into the Great Tribulation, Israel will recognize the AntiChrist at the Abomination of Desolation.


103 posted on 04/19/2010 2:22:52 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

So do you believe the Tribulation stated this Passover?


104 posted on 04/19/2010 2:28:29 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP
So do you believe the Tribulation stated this Passover?

Now there's a bold question. For that to be true, you would first have to make the assumption that this timeline is correct. That may well be the case, but ultimately we have no way of knowing. That's just my two cents worth.

105 posted on 04/19/2010 2:40:46 PM PDT by camerongood210
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To: TaraP
Strongs (H07858) indicates that flood means deluge...not necessary water... Here's what I found (you probably knew this :-) -

7858 sheteph sheh'-tef

or sheteph (shay'-tef) ; from 7857; a deluge (literally or figuratively):--flood, outrageous, overflowing. see HEBREW for 07857
106 posted on 04/19/2010 2:50:09 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: RJR_fan
It wasn't much of a riddle, RJR_fan. Excuse us non-posties while we continue to work on something that's more of a challenge!

107 posted on 04/19/2010 2:53:25 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: camerongood210

I think that date has to do with the Prophecy/Prediction by Mark Blitz and JR Church that the 2nd Coming of Jesus will be in 2015 based on the Blood Moon Eclipses and the Jewish Festivals.


108 posted on 04/19/2010 3:00:18 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: hiredhand

Thanks!

:)


109 posted on 04/19/2010 3:01:35 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: ROTB

The love of many. Not all. But we do see that things have changed in that regard.


110 posted on 04/19/2010 3:20:58 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: TaraP
So do you believe the Tribulation stated this Passover?

No but it might start this Feast of Trumpets.

From the YHvH commanded Feast of Trumpets in 2008
until the Feast of Trumpets 2015 is a Rabbinical sabbatical cycle.

According to the Book of Jubilees, the cycle is offset by two years,
beginning at the Feast of Trumpets of 2010.

Psalm 111 begins with Hallelu'yah
Psalm 112 begins with Hallelu'yah
Psalm 113 begins with Hallelu'yah

Psalm 114 does not have Hallelu'yah

Psalm 115 ends with Hallelu'yah
Psalm 116 ends with Hallelu'yah,
Psalm 117 ends with Hallelu'yah

It appears to be a menorah without YHvH as the servant lamp !

A seven year period without YHvH at the center ( anti-christ ? )

Psalm 118 is Messianic.

We are given three score and ten years.
Threescore and ten years for Israel is 2018.

During this Sabbatical cycle as is spelled out in Joel, Acts and Revelation,
there will be Solar and Lunar Eclipses on YHvH commanded Feast Days.

Joel2:31 "The sun will be turned into darkness
And the moon into blood
Before the great and awesome day of YHvH comes.

Acts 2:20 'THE SUN WILL BE TURNED INTO DARKNESS
AND THE MOON INTO BLOOD, BEFORE THE GREAT AND
GLORIOUS DAY OF YHvH SHALL COME.

21 'AND IT SHALL BE THAT EVERYONE WHO CALLS
ON THE NAME OF YHvH WILL BE SAVED.'

Revelation 6:12 I looked when He broke the sixth seal,
and there was a great earthquake; and the sun became
black as sackcloth made of hair,
and the whole moon became like blood;

See: This link:
Solar and Lunar Eclipses in 2014/15

and this link and video

The most likely date for the rapture is the Feast of Trumpets
of 2010 as I believe that the anti-Christ
will commit the abomination of desolation
at Pesach of 2014 which is 3 1/2 years
into the seven year cycle.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
111 posted on 04/19/2010 3:22:59 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: TaraP; xjcsa; Genoa; Quix
Hi and thanks for the ping ...

You were saying ...

I’m not sure..

Well, you were answering someone else who asked when the 7 years started. Apparently, from this article, he (or she) is saying that this 7-year period of the Tribulation started on January 1, 2007.

This is the part that I read that said this ...

Joveir Solana, whose office was Secretary General of the Western European Union, made separate agreements with many Middle Eastern countries over several years prior to 2007. These agreements would give each country the right to receive loans from the EU for the purpose of bringing stability in many areas of their governments. These loans would require substantial financial commitments from EU full member states and therefore had to be fixed into the EU upcoming budget. The term of the EU budget is 7 years and was due for renewal on Jan. 01/2007.

On this date Jovier Solana made a quick trip to the required office and gave his signature 'confirming' the agreements that he had set up prior to this date and therefore fulfilled all of the requirements that are called for in Daniel 9:26,27.

Well, the first thing I would want to know from this writer would be

"Why have you waited for over three years before telling us this?"

But, you're gonna have a problem finding out the answer for this question, since the author is "Anonymous"... (which always inspires confidence for some writer being a good authority on some subject ... LOL ...).

I'm presuming that this writer just "discovered" this "interpretation" recently -- which then caused him (or her) to drop it into some website that accepts anonymous writers for the public to read.

Heck, we can't even trace back any articles that he's written on this one website, much less trace back his other "prognostications" that he's made over the last 30 years. For all I know, he blasts out a new version of his "predictions" using "anonymous" as an author and does so every three months... hoping that one of them will "hit" paydirt... LOL ...

Except in this case, he's three years "late" on the "call" for this item.

Those are my first thoughts on the matter, before going too much further.


Please ST, can you assist on this one?

I would be glad to "weigh in" on it from the same perspective that I always give in all these kinds of matters. And anyone who has read my posts before already knows it.

Just for sake of clarifying that here, it's Dispensational, Pre-Millennial, and Pre-Tribulational (in eschatology). So, that's how I am approaching these things -- and thus, when I comment on it, it's from that perspective.

And if anyone would disagree with what I'm saying, they're just going to be disagreeing with that particular eschatology, more than anything else.

And so..., the first thing I would say is that this author, by waiting for three years before saying anything about this event over three years ago -- has provided one very easy way to verify his understanding of it -- since we're approaching very quickly the 3-1/2 year mark -- at which time the sacrifices in the Temple are stopped and the Antichrist declares himself to be god.

So, one could say, "Just wait until the 42 month mark and see if it happens." and that will do it.

BUT, the problem is -- "There's no Temple there right now, or sacrifices going on."

I would say that a real big problem -- right off the bat -- in that there is no Temple. I can't see a Temple getting built in a couple of months, sacrifices started and then a few days later, the sacrifices stopped.... :-)

Furthermore, I don't think anyone knows who the Antichrist is -- who is the one who is supposed to be doing this -- standing the Temple declaring himself to be God.

Wouldn't that present a sort of big problem, in that no one knows who the Antichrist is and there's no Temple there and there's no sacrifices going on -- and -- we have only a couple or so months left before this is supposed to happen??

Someone might think this article was written on April 1, rather than the date it was written ... :-)

The bottom line is that this viewpoint that is presented, besides being three years late and having nothing "lined up" at the present time -- that is supposed to be happening -- it's simply not the Dispensational, Pre-Millennial and Pre-Tribulational eschatology that is taught and preached on and presented by many scholars, pastors, teachers and seminaries, from what they see being presented to us in the Word of God.

You can say that much about it -- or rather -- what it isn't... if anything ... :-)

I can go more into it from things that are said in the article, but I've got to run right now and sell a puppy (someone is coming over ... be back later...).

112 posted on 04/19/2010 3:40:45 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: xjcsa

Got it. Full preterist. So you believe that the eschatology we’re discussing all took place in A.D. 70? No future return of Christ to the earth, no future resurrection of the dead?


113 posted on 04/19/2010 3:43:35 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: TaraP
Dan 9:26 "And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.

There's an alternate viewpoint on the first part of Daniel 9:27...what if "he" who confirms a covenant is Jesus Christ? We know this his ministry was for 3 1/2 years and then he was "cut off" by his death. He confirmed a covenant with many, the new covenant. And he brought an end to sacrifice and offering via the new covenant.

114 posted on 04/19/2010 3:46:38 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Genoa
Got it. Full preterist. So you believe that the eschatology we’re discussing all took place in A.D. 70? No future return of Christ to the earth, no future resurrection of the dead?

Correct, though the resurrection of the dead is ongoing.

115 posted on 04/19/2010 3:47:36 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Star Traveler

Would it fit with a post-tribulational model? (Best wishes concerning the puppy.)


116 posted on 04/19/2010 3:47:53 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: xjcsa
Correct, though the resurrection of the dead is ongoing.

. . . Occurring at the time of each believer's death, yes? I think your teaching is that we are living in the new heaven and the new earth now, is that right? I've read about this view. It is potent medicine. I think I agree with those who suggest it is outside the realm of orthodoxy. It also requires a lot of nonliteral handling of the Word. To each his own.
117 posted on 04/19/2010 3:51:33 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Star Traveler

Which brings up a litany of other problems.

If the GT began in 2007, then we are no longer in the Church Age and the GT is going to be the least of problems for those who have been left behind.

Next, why are they teaching this? If we are no longer in the Church Age, then there is no more need for teaching, because His Word is written in our hearts and minds, no more need for teaching.

Next, this implies there are ongoing events the likes of which the world has never seen nor endured. Don’t think so.

IMHO, it’s a great opportunity to return to Him and study His Word through faith in Him, so that we might be properly prepared when we find ourselves at the right place and right time to perform per His Plan as we are all to bear our own cross, just as our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus bore His in obedience to the Father and provided by the power of God the Holy Spirit.


118 posted on 04/19/2010 3:52:01 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Star Traveler

Hi ST!

Thanks for weighing in, I am just wondering if this could happen without many Christians knowing?

I know GOD is our Sheild during these times, but can that also mean *un-knowing* Will we know who the Antichrist is, while we are still on earth? OR will the Antichrist be revealed in a secret manner?


119 posted on 04/19/2010 3:54:43 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: DouglasKC

True..But what about the 7 years in Daniel? that cannot be Jesus Christ...


120 posted on 04/19/2010 3:56:43 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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