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US Catholic Bishops Opposition To Arizona Immigration Law Leaves Many Unanswered Questions
Pewsitter.com ^ | April 29, 2010 | James Todd

Posted on 04/29/2010 8:49:27 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

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What is surprising is this condemnation has also come from much more conservative quarters. Bishop Finn of the diocese of Kansas City/St. Joseph and Archbishop Dolan of New York have also both issued statements opposing the AZ law. It seems clear that the bishops are of one mind when it comes to this issue.
1 posted on 04/29/2010 8:49:27 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Indefensible.


2 posted on 04/29/2010 8:54:52 AM PDT by deadrock (Liberty is a bitch that needs to be bedded on a mattress of cadavers.)
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How DARE you question a Priest. Haven’t you heard, that anything a religous official says is beyond question, beyond reproach .... why to even ask a question is a sin.

< /sarcasm>

The only reason the church gives a hoot, is because they have a financial investment the status quo. A great many illegals are Catholic, and the priests don’t care about how their presence hurts Americans as much as they care about the money they are getting from these ‘victims’.


3 posted on 04/29/2010 8:56:43 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

This “new” bill has already been federal law for 50 years.


4 posted on 04/29/2010 8:57:31 AM PDT by And2TheRepublic
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To: Alex Murphy
The new arrivals will mostly Catholic, in name even if not practicing. Most haven't been touched by the U.S. sex abuse scandal, and are likely to be less militant in their outlook than the Norte Americanos.

Looks to be win-win so far as the bishops see.

5 posted on 04/29/2010 9:08:02 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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the social activist tendencies of some of the more politically liberal bishops, Cardinal Mahoney being a good example

There's a big media cognitive dissonance here. We are being trained to hear "Catholic bishops" and think "protected pedophile priests" Except that now we are expected to pause from that belief and accept the moral authority of the bishops on immigration. It's like one of those bits on the Simpsons where Homer gets push-polled on the phone. "Ohh, that's bad." "Oh, that's good." "Ooooh, that's bad." etc.

The ironic thing is that Cadinal Mahoney has been one of the prime culprits in the defending-pedophile priest scandal. But since he is a big socialist he gets a pass from the media.

6 posted on 04/29/2010 9:09:38 AM PDT by denydenydeny (The welfare state turns us all into zoo animals, mouths open, waiting for the next feeding.)
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I was shocked to see this was an Alex Murphy thread, absolutely SHOCKED!


7 posted on 04/29/2010 9:10:14 AM PDT by frogjerk
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It seems clear that the bishops are of one mind when it comes to this issue.

Albeit a moronic one.

8 posted on 04/29/2010 9:18:00 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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I was shocked to see this was an Alex Murphy thread, absolutely SHOCKED!

....just doing the job(s) that Catholics refuse to do....

9 posted on 04/29/2010 9:27:41 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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....just doing the one-sidedjob(s) that Catholics refuse to do....

There, I fixed it for you. You're Welcome.

10 posted on 04/29/2010 9:33:22 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: Alex Murphy
Pride is one of the seven deadly sins.

Don't kid yourself Murphy, you post only those stories that fit your anti-Catholic agenda.

We'll all be patiently waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting for your review of the following:


11 posted on 04/29/2010 9:34:02 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Hodar
the money they are getting from these ‘victims’.

A myth perpetuated by the ignorant. Illegals don't contribute to the collection. Most of them don't even go to Church. If you want to see illegals opening up their wallets go spend some time at the local Western Union office.

12 posted on 04/29/2010 9:37:31 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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The Archbishop has enough near at hand to pay attention to I should think. Just next door Catholic University Seton Hall is educating young minds in the intricacies of homosexual unions with a real hands on professor.

Will the grads of the course be called ‘Homosetons’?

13 posted on 04/29/2010 9:39:56 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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If this is true...I think the Bishops are the last ones to have anything to say about this. Seems it’s good to clean your own house first before butting into someone elses.


14 posted on 04/29/2010 9:57:02 AM PDT by cubreporter (Rush is an American Patriot. He has been blessed with exceptional wisdom. Thank God for Rush!!!)
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Countless child sex abuse scandals have rocked the Catholic Church over the last several years, and American families have been leaving the church in droves. As American men and women whisk away their children from the potential risk of molestation in the Catholic church, they also take their much needed money. The coffers of U.S. Catholic churches have been running on empty and the church sees the pocketbooks of illegal immigrants as its only hope.

During Pope Benedict XVI’s 2008 visit to the United States, he gave many speeches and sermons. Among other things, the Pope admonished Americans to adopt a welcoming attitude toward those who break our laws by entering this country illegally. Benedict said: “I want to encourage you and your communities to continue to welcome the immigrants who join your ranks today, to share their joys and hopes, to support them in their sorrows and trials and to help them flourish in their new home.

It was discovered that the Pontifical Commission for Latin America, a Vatican-based group which answers directly to the Pope has made a large donation to help build a shelter for Central Americans on their illegal journey to the United States. The money was given to the Brothers On The Path refuge, located in the Mexican city of Ixtepec.

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In June 2005, Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony wrote an op-ed piece for the Los Angeles Times in which he defended and even encouraged illegal aliens to enter this country. Of course, Mexicans and other Latin Americans are overwhelmingly devout Catholics. Mahony along with the rest of the church’s hierarchy is undoubtedly anxious to tap this potential source of income.

Source

Before you accuse me of being ignorant and spreading a myth ... please show me a source of your own.

15 posted on 04/29/2010 9:59:03 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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A.A.. you might or might now want to add your comments on this related thread: Here's mine at #37.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church says:

2241 (b) Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.

The Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church, paragraph 298, says:

Regulating immigration according to criteria of equity and balance is one of the indispensable conditions for ensuring that immigrants are integrated into society with the guarantees required by recognition of their human dignity.

The moral and social view propounded in the Catechism is my guide, and it is excellent.

The U.S. Bishops who sponsor, excuse and enable the massive illegal network which is bringing people into this country unlawfully, are clearly in the wrong.

This is clericalism at its most obnoxious, because these Bishops are wrongly clothing themselves in episcopal authority while usurping the role and responsibility of the laity, which is action for righteousness in the political sphere.

If anybody here, Catholic or not, stands with the Catechism and against the USCCB clerical bureaucracy, they will find an ally in me.

16 posted on 04/29/2010 4:33:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops." St. John Chrysostom, Bishop)
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To: Hodar
"How DARE you question a Priest. Haven’t you heard, that anything a religous official says is beyond question, beyond reproach .... why to even ask a question is a sin."

Nice straw man.

17 posted on 04/30/2010 4:20:36 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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"....just doing the job(s) that Catholics refuse to do.... "

Mighty wide brush ya got there, Murphy

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18 posted on 04/30/2010 4:33:39 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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"Nice straw man."

Apologies, noticed the sarc tag too late.

19 posted on 04/30/2010 4:51:06 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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"Nice straw man."

Apologies, noticed the sarc tag too late.

20 posted on 04/30/2010 4:55:22 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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