Imagine all the differences with no JFK, no Vietnam, no 1960s, Roosevelt as only a two term President, imagine all the post WWII liberalism and the 1965 immigration act erased.
Posted on 04/29/2010 10:34:06 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
Ah yes, I see the Fred Phelpsian protestants are at it again.
Imagine all the differences with no JFK, no Vietnam, no 1960s, Roosevelt as only a two term President, imagine all the post WWII liberalism and the 1965 immigration act erased.
Not great but not bad. We can work with that and strive to improve it, those two votes were both to the right of the general Catholic vote.
The main thing is that we can examine it and see how we can bring Catholic Hispanics around.
A fact not in evidence, Salvation. I made no reference.
Are we friends again?
Sure, no problem at all.
You can prattle all you want, but Mainline Protestants vote Republican and Catholics rarely do.
Mainline Protestants did not vote for Obama, the Catholics did.
I am more interested in how religious groups vote than their internal theology, when it comes to politics.
I must confess that I regard "Blacks and Hispanics" as lost causes, and I don't know why. The closest thing that I can guess (and I am a Noachide, so prepare to perhaps be offended) is that Blacks and Hispanics worship a Black/Hispanic J*sus with completely different priorities, and that white chr*stians worship a "white" (or at least "patriotic American") J*sus. That's one of the inherent problems of making G-d into a man (chas veshalom!).
**Catholics rarely do.**
You are mistaken.
Catholics always vote Republican
CINOs will vote dimocrat at a whim
In front of me it was used in a disrespectful way. I guess it made a big impression, because I never use it.
I don’t know how to reach black voters, they reversed themselves in one election in 1936, and never looked back, and I don’t know how to reach Catholic Hispanics, both of those groups will never be conservative.
Seeing that Protestant Hispanics voted 44% for Bush against a sitting veep in 2000, and then 56% to reelect Bush in 2004, and then went 52% for Obama in the racial tsunami of 2008, gives me hope. Catholic Hispanics went 33%, 33%, 32% Republican in those elections, they are not in play.
There is no question that the 32% of the Hispanic vote that is Protestant is in play, that means that we can fight for them and that also means that they can have some influence with their less conservative Catholic, fellow Hispanics, as white Protestants influence white Catholics.
If we can see the type of movement among Hispanic Catholics that we have seen with white Catholics in the last 30 years, then we could perhaps start dependably winning the overall Catholic vote by a narrow margin.
It is never truly over.
Quit playing games with yourself and conservative politics.
If you must worship at the altar of statistics then please use empirical data which is relevant providing informed information not some general survey which only serves the misinformed and those who lack critical analysis.Your data provided in Post # 62 dating back to 1936 is comical. Why not provide data from the election of George Washington which would be as germane to this discussion as the irrelevant statistics given by your prior post? Learn to use informed and discerning data when making your argument and not embarrass yourself with evidence which can be easily refuted.
You see, that's what I mean. I don't understand this. I can understand opposition to conservative economic policies, but the Black/Hispanic dedication to abortion, homosexuality, and (I suppose) euthenasia simply astounds me. But it's there. So far as I know, every single mainstream Black/Hispanic politician (except for the "uncle toms" and "race traitors") are committed to leftism across the board. Yet Blacks, at least, still worship like right wing West Virginia snake-handling hillbillies.
Once upon a time I actually believed there would eventually be a line that Blacks would not cross. I no longer believe that. Why I do not know, only that slavery is no excuse to turn against G-d A-mighty.
Not playing games.
REAL Catholics vote conservative all the time
CINOs are another matter.
No REAL Catholic would have ever voted for Obortion O and his agenda!
That doesn’t mean we can’t work on converting the CINOs to vote more conservatively. I’m working on one right now. But I’m taking a very subtle road through religion. He won’t know what hit him when he votes Republican!
But maybe you don’t believe in prayers and sacrifices for others.
Shame.
Is that your pious act, make up a question and then answer it without the person that you are lying about getting in between? Why go after a poster personally?
Show me a time when Mainline Protestants are not voting to the right of Catholics.
Good news, that is what I try to inspire by knocking some of the cobwebs from the political perceptions around here.
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