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All Roads Lead to Heaven? - Kathleen Parker Does Theology
Christian Post ^ | 05/14/2010 | R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

Posted on 05/16/2010 12:40:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

What catches the attention of a columnist for The Washington Post? A recent column by Kathleen Parker indicates that theology has become a focus of national attention.

Kathleen Parker used her column in The Washington Post to take on Franklin Graham and his belief that belief in Jesus Christ is the only way of salvation.

Parker began her column with the fact that Franklin Graham prayed outside the Pentagon last week, rather than inside, having been disinvited by the Pentagon as the speaker for its scheduled National Day of Prayer service. Graham, you will remember, was disinvited because of statements he made about Islam - statements directly referenced by the Army spokesman as “not appropriate.”

Those statements made clear reference to the Gospel of Jesus Christ as the only message of salvation, to Christ as the only Savior, and to Islam as an evil belief system that pulls millions away from faith in Christ and delivers no hope of salvation. In a later interview, Graham made his point about the uniqueness of the Christian Gospel, adding Hinduism as another example of a false religion.

All this was too much for Kathleen Parker, who asked: “Oh well, it doesn’t matter where one prays, right? All prayers lead to heaven. Or do they?”

She took direct aim at Franklin Graham’s theology, arguing that “Graham’s views didn’t sit very well with secular Americans or even non-evangelical Christians.” Well, probably not - and that serves to indicate what makes evangelical Christianity distinct from secular Americans and secularized Christianity.

But, Parker advised her readers, evangelicals are not likely to hold onto this belief for long. In her words:

Graham isn’t alone in his views. A survey of 1,000 Protestant pastors, conducted by an evangelical polling firm, found that 47 percent agree that Islam is “a very evil and a very wicked religion.” But such opinions may be confined mostly to an older generation. Evangelicals under 30 believe that there are many ways to God, not just through Jesus.

In essence, Kathleen Parker was advising secular America that the distinctive evangelical belief in the necessity of belief in Christ for salvation has a generational expiration date stamped on it. She then cites research by David Campbell of Notre Dame and Robert Putman of Harvard indicating that “nearly two-thirds of evangelicals under 35 believe non-Christians can go to heaven, vs. 39 percent of those over 65.”

So, even as secular Americans are expected to recoil in horror at the idea that there are Christians who still believe that faith in Jesus is the only way of salvation, they are given the hope that the coming generation of younger evangelicals will abandon that conviction and follow the path set by liberal Protestantism. There are signs she may be right, but this would mean the surrender of the Gospel.

But Kathleen Parker is not finished with her argument. She then turns to Fingerprints of God, a recent book by Barbara Bradley Hagerty of National Public Radio. Hagerty cites neuroscience as giving evidence of a “God spot” in the brain that supposedly indicates that all religious beliefs are the same:

Her research led to some startling conclusions that have caused no small amount of Sturm und Drang among those who believe theirs is the one true way. She found that whether one is a Sikh, a Catholic nun, a Buddhist monk or a Sufi Muslim, the brain reacts to focused prayer and meditation much in the same way. The same parts light up and the same parts go dark during deep meditation.

Well, no Sturm und Drang here, Mrs. Parker. This neuroscience may tell us something about the operation of the brain, but it tells us nothing of theological importance. It might indicate that certain religious practices have similar effects in the brain, but it tells us nothing about which theological beliefs are true. The evidence from neuroscience is of interest in this respect only to those who believe that all religious experience is merely a reflection of biology - and if you believe this, you are not concerned about heaven or hell at all.

Kathleen Parker’s column is indeed revealing. But the most revelatory aspect of her essay is its unmasked hostility toward any belief that there is only one way of salvation. This is the so-called “scandal of particularity” that causes so much secular offense. In recent years, the Roman Catholic Church has officially embraced forms of inclusivism in order to reduce this burden, and liberal Protestantism has embraced just about every relativistic alternative, from outright universalism to various forms of inclusivism, in which people are believed to be saved through Christ, but not through any conscious knowledge of Him. The universalists argue that all religions lead to the same truth. Inclusivists argue that all faiths eventually lead to Christ, even if He is not known. Both are repudiations of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

The column by Kathleen Parker is yet another signpost of the current age and the worldview of the secularized classes. In their view, what evangelicals believe about the Gospel of Jesus Christ is just out of bounds and embarrassing.

But, she tells her readers, don’t worry - younger evangelicals are going to put that belief far behind them.

Is she right?

-- R. Albert Mohler, Jr. is president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky.


TOPICS: Ecumenism; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: ecumenism; heaven; kathleenparker; salvation

1 posted on 05/16/2010 12:40:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
All Roads Lead to Heaven?

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat. Mat 7:14 How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it!

2 posted on 05/16/2010 12:47:45 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: SeekAndFind

Parker needs to stick to what she really knows and leave the theology to the Theologians.

If she hasn’t studied the Bible, which she’s indicated by her ignorance of Scripture, well, no use in arguing with the uninformed.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13407a.htm


3 posted on 05/16/2010 12:48:48 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: the_daug
Evangelicals under 30 believe that there are many ways to God, not just through Jesus.

Joh 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

You don't go to hell for your sins, you go for rejecting the provision provided for your sin.

4 posted on 05/16/2010 12:56:50 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Aw come on! Katy saw “All Dogs Go to Heaven”. Twice!


5 posted on 05/16/2010 1:00:51 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: HighlyOpinionated
Parker needs to stick to what she really knows and leave the theology to the Theologians.

Kathleen Parker is one of those pro-Republicans ( because she is ) who dislikes Sarah Palin.
6 posted on 05/16/2010 1:01:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Matt 7:13,14---Enter in at the narrow gate; for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be who go in that way; because narrow is the gate, and hard is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

So tragic that so many people fall into the trap of universalism, or whatever else they may call it, and never even try to learn and understand the Word of God.

7 posted on 05/16/2010 1:01:45 PM PDT by Aarchaeus (V)
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To: SeekAndFind
Note to Katherine:

As I've stated previously on this forum ...

The sticking point of Christian faith is what theologians call "the scandal of the particular". That is , that there is only one way to God.

Jesus made the same claim - "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father but by me."

I don't think my belief system is at odds with this. I believe that human beings have an eternal soul. I've also come to believe that there are many paths to many "Gods".

If you want to wind up with what Budda had to offer ... walk that path. If you want what the pantheism of the Hindu belief system offers... go right ahead. If you want to march to your own drummer, following as best you can your concept God, knock yourself out.

The "scandal of the particular" though, means that if I want to have relationship with the Being that Jesus referred to as "Father", I have to acknowledge my brokenness and need for forgiveness and entrust Jesus with my life.

The only way to that God and what He offers is through faith in Jesus. The claim of the God that Jesus called "Father" is that He offers eternal life in relationship with Him. The second person of this triune God demonstrated the validity of this offer by laying aside His own diety and becoming a man, offering himself as the sacrifice for my sin and then, as the firstborn from the dead, being raised by the Father to the same eternal life He offers to all. As an added bonus, because I'm forgiven, I can and do have an ongoing, cognitive, emotional relationship with this God right now.

So, at the end of this 70 or 80 year part of the life of your eternal soul, if you've followed the path of a God other than the one Jesus called Father, you may or may not get what your God offered, I can't vouch for their ability to deliver. You won't, however, get what the God that Jesus called Father has offered, in fact, since you wanted something else, you'll be separated from that God forever. What ever the result, look into the mirror for the one responsible for it.

8 posted on 05/16/2010 1:05:24 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jesus said to Kathleen Parker, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man or woman comes to the Father, except by me.” John 14:6


9 posted on 05/16/2010 1:07:51 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SeekAndFind
OK. I'm going to leave the realm of logical argument and use the trick of name calling: Parker is nothing more than a simpering fool.
10 posted on 05/16/2010 1:08:38 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: SeekAndFind

She will get a horrible surprise when her time to meet God comes.


11 posted on 05/16/2010 1:11:53 PM PDT by gedeon3 (Wake up America!! The enemy is among us!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Kathleen Parker is one of those pro-Republicans ( because she is ) who dislikes Sarah Palin.

Exactly. Hillary's game (and if you don't think she's behind this build-up to the presidential election you're not paying attention) will be to try to split the conservatives along the evangelical fault line, in it's effect on both religious and political theory.

People need to remember that the difference in beliefs between two Christians or two conservatives is absolutely nothing compared to the split between a conservative and a Rat - which is literally the difference between freedom and slavery.

Watch - a Christian conservative non-evangelical Perot-type Republican Party splitter will arise, and if he loses the primaries he might run third party. Perot got the Clintons elected before, and the same strategy is already in use now to split the conservatives.

So beware infighting, unless you like the sound of "President Hillary Clinton."

12 posted on 05/16/2010 1:13:23 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Self censored.

LLS


13 posted on 05/16/2010 1:31:07 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jesus answered and said unto them, I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh unto the Father but by me. - John 14:6

Seems pretty simple to me.


14 posted on 05/16/2010 2:15:27 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jesus talked about hell more than anyone else in the Bible. I guess He didn’t know what He was talking about, according to Kathleen.


15 posted on 05/16/2010 2:40:45 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is the “philosophy” of our day...and yes, the younger generation has bought that lie in droves. After all, if Oprah says that “all paths lead to God” - it must be more reliable that the Word of God, eh?


16 posted on 05/16/2010 2:40:54 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Alamo-Girl; P-Marlowe; betty boop; MHGinTN; blue-duncan; SeekAndFind; Quix; Buggman

Hey, folks.

Dr Mohler’s input on the Parker article which we’ve been discussing.

He would have been in good company had he sat in on our discussion. :>) He echoed most of our points.

Now, about the young evangelicals throwing off the belief that Jesus is the only way to salvation. I say it’s an artifact of the research and that, without seeing the research and the questions as asked, we really shouldn’t be assuming that someone as hostile to Christianity as Kathleen Parker would haven’t distorted something to make her point.

We have also found in the past serious problems with the definitions of “protestant”, “evangelical”, and “faith” as used in opinion research. For example, in my experience, “protestant” is generally held to be anything that is not Roman Catholic or Orthodox.


17 posted on 05/16/2010 3:24:38 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jesus is a liar.

- Kathleen Parker


18 posted on 05/16/2010 3:50:59 PM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: xzins; Quix
I have not seen the research that was used for the Parker article but would not be willing to discount it(the research) to much. I have been working with youth for several years and have seen several research articles during that time that point out that most children brought up with in “evangelical” churches have walked away from the faith. Different studies have put the number from 74% to 92%. In fact I just found a Pew Forum survey from 2008 that states 57% of “evangelicals” answered the survey that “many religions lead to eternal life”.

I do believe that we as Christians are missing a great opportunity to impact the next generation. I see part of the problem is that for the most part we have handed the current generation of youth over to the secular schools (around 90% of church kids) to educate them and then we try to unteach them what they learned all week in school and reteach them the scriptures in a couple of hours a week...if you can get them to attend church, Sunday school, and youth group. Most of the kids that I have worked with in youth groups see the contradiction of having their parents send them to school where they learn that there “is no God” and then the same parents bring them to church on Sunday “to learn about God”. We are raising up a generation that wants the truth but are getting mixed messages from the church, and the schools are claiming to be teaching from the truth.

Our focus needs to be on raising up godly children in the way scripture instructs us...not by just offering “game time” and calling it “children's church, youth group, kids club, etc.”

Sorry if this seems long winded...but as a father of seven that wants to see all of my children make it to heaven when the time comes...this is very close to my heart.

19 posted on 05/16/2010 6:30:32 PM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: WorldviewDad; Quix

I would never discount your point that we should be educating our own children. For whatever reason, evangelical Christians chose public schools decades ago and have pretty much hung with it...probably for financial reasons.

However, the point about wanting to review the research is sound. There really have been problems with both the research methods and with the definitions of various terms in past research that I’ve looked at.

I’d just feel more comfortable knowing what I really was dealing with so far as the research is concerned. It’s not as if I’m so confident in Kathleen Parker that her word on the subject should be the final word.


20 posted on 05/16/2010 6:40:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Liberals believe in diversity as long as you believe just like them. The world only curses in the name of Jesus Christ. Think about it.


21 posted on 05/16/2010 7:20:55 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: Cowgirl

Liberals aren’t that big a puzzle. They just want power. And that’s why God’s such a problem for them. He’s the Power and they know it. And Jesus really hacks them off, because He took their form, and He’s so much better than them that they can’t even conceive it.

The old adage: if it gets in your way, kill it.


22 posted on 05/16/2010 7:31:00 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: WorldviewDad

Dreadful stats, indeed.


23 posted on 05/16/2010 7:35:37 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: xzins

INDEED.


24 posted on 05/16/2010 7:36:15 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: xzins; Quix
I would agree that the research should be reviewed...part of my concern is that the numbers quoted are close to what I have seen in several research articles. In fact there was a post this weekend on FR that stated that the typical church only grows for the first fifteen years and then plateau's until around 35 years when it cannot replace the members that leave. Doing the math this would be around the time that the “kids leave the nest”. It will be very hard to have a growing church if we cannot hold onto our own children...that is why I pray for a revival with in our churches and our families.

From the parents I have talk to...it does seem to be financial reasons.

God bless

25 posted on 05/16/2010 8:35:15 PM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: xzins
The old adage: if it gets in your way, kill it.

Negative. You talk to it, relate to it, hug it, pet it, and when it is most inattentive, then you kill it.

26 posted on 05/16/2010 8:51:13 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Heck, anyone can go to Heaven, even non-Christians - long as they believe in Jesus.


27 posted on 05/16/2010 8:56:35 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Nope. Not gonna do it.)
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To: xzins
Aha! Thank you so much for sharing that, dear brother in Christ!
28 posted on 05/16/2010 9:05:14 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: SeekAndFind

“God Spot”??????? From an NPR twit no less. Clearly these people are either completely whacked and scientifically illiterate, or they’ve been hitting the crack pipe big time. Aw... it’s probably both.

Aren’t these the same people that believe near death experiences are due to hypoxia or CO2 buildup.


29 posted on 05/16/2010 9:23:32 PM PDT by Brucifer (Proud member of the Double Secret Reloading Underground.)
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To: WorldviewDad

REACTIVE ATTACHMENT DISORDER destroys individuals and the church.

IMHO, EVERY Christian parent should read:

ATTACHMENTS: WHY YOU LOVE, FEEL AND ACT THE WAY YOU DO

by Dr.s Tim Clinton and Gary Sibcy.

imho, there’s two basic reasons Christian parents lose their children to satan . . .

1. They do NOT live the Biblical Christian life about relationships before and with their children.

2. They provoke them to wrath contrary to Scripture and usually unnecessarily—usually over pride issues related to the parents’ own ATTACHMENT DISORDER junk.

3. They discipline—usually too harshly, rigidly, sternly WITHOUT SUFFICIENT RELATIONSHIP to support it. That WILL result in rebellion.

God have mercy.

Then when congregations are made up of parents who are dropping so many Biblical balls on relationship and Christian walk stuff in the normal life of the church—kids will normally say to themselves—if THAT’S what Christianity is—no thanks, that stinks.

And it too often does stink, horribly.


30 posted on 05/16/2010 9:31:39 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: SeekAndFind
Acts 4:12

Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Case closed. If you believe that there are other ways to heaven than Jesus, then Jesus died in vain.

31 posted on 05/17/2010 2:08:14 AM PDT by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: Quix
So true...

Several of the parents I have talked to as a youth leader fail to see what scripture teaches about the role they are to have as a parent. Most are more concerned with what kind of career their child will have instead of if the child loves God... they figure that will come later. They normally respond in horror when I make the statement “I don't care if my sons dig ditches the rest of their lives as long as they love God”.

As a culture we need to return to “BEING the church” instead of “DOING church”. As Americans we tend to separate out different parts of our lives from the other parts...but all parts of our lives add up to our lives and impact all parts of our lives.

Live for God

32 posted on 05/17/2010 10:40:32 AM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: SeekAndFind

The odd thing is, I came to this thread today not using my usual browser.

As a result I didn’t know the bookmark labeled “Free Republic” would take me to this old post of mine ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1964353/posts?page=72#72 ) in a thread titled: “Jesus was an Iconoclast”.

Where that post dovetailed with your OP rather nicely was early on when I wrote: “But this isn’t an age of zealousness in the world. Rather it is an age of apostasy. Can one be too narrow? Certainly! But narrowness isn’t the big issue of the day: it is broadness. We live in a culture here in America, and even more so in other parts of the West, where simply be doctrinally straight is considered being narrow and dogmatic.”


33 posted on 05/17/2010 1:05:59 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

There is a problem for that statement if taken at face value for it says that even the demons believe, and tremble even as they do so.


34 posted on 05/17/2010 1:09:34 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: WorldviewDad

INDEED. VERY WELL PUT.

THX.


35 posted on 05/17/2010 6:20:34 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Rurudyne

Demons aren’t people, they don’t have access to saving grace. They made their choice long ago and are stuck with it. However even the vilest human can receive forgiveness and eternal life just by asking for it (and really meaning it, of course). Osama bin Laden can be saved if he wants it, but Satan and his demons can’t.


36 posted on 05/19/2010 7:49:31 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Nope. Not gonna do it.)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

I’m glad that your earlier post wasn’t “at face value” (because it did not make any point about what is required to receive redemption clear but seemed as if it could indicate that mere intellectual belief was sufficient ... thus my comment).


37 posted on 05/20/2010 9:00:48 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: count-your-change

Aw come on! Katy saw “All Dogs Go to Heaven”. Twice!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

All DOGS go to heaven because dog backwards spells God and there’s a little bit of God’s unconditional love in every dog.

[Even Pit Bulls, Chet99!]


38 posted on 05/20/2010 10:22:49 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Dog Whisperer? Is that you? I kinda like your show although I do think it gets a little sloppy sentimental over an animal.


39 posted on 05/20/2010 10:49:01 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

I am no Dog Whisperer. I just know dogs and haven’t met one I didn’t like.

I’ve never even watched the show.

If I ever won the lottery I’d set up an animal rescue.


40 posted on 05/20/2010 4:23:59 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

“Parker needs to stick to what she really knows “

Not giving her much to work with there.


41 posted on 05/20/2010 4:26:56 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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