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Posted on 06/13/2010 12:16:24 PM PDT by markomalley
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But you can speak for catholics that pull doctrine out of a hat like a magician and his rabbit
Thank God protestants have the sure revelation of the scriptures as their authority..not old men with “visions “ of sugar plumbs dancing in their head with the queen of heaven flying with them
WELL PUT. THX.
The RCC claims to have WRITTEN the Bible
No it doesn't.
the NT contains almost 8,000 verses. That would be a workload of 4 verses a year to interpret. They couldn't manage that?
So, where's your interpretation of each verse, or are you just a stone thrower?
Nice job of not answering the questions, BTW, as is typical when trying to pin down any Catholic on what the Catholic Church actually teaches.
Look it up for yourself. Catechism of the Catholic Church
If we agree that the word "emissary" refers to an ambassador or representative, you think Gabriel was "Christ's holiest emissary?" More than Paul? More than John the Baptist? More than Luke? More than the apostle John? More than Peter?
Did Gabriel risk his life for anyone? Did Gabriel preach the Gospel to heathens hoping to kill him? What did Gabriel suffer to be Christ's emissary?
What did Gabriel do that would make you call him "Christ's holiest emissary?"
Yes. Apparently, if I mention a year ago that my doctor wants me to have one glass of wine at dinner, or participate on a thread about which are good, inexpensive table wines, I am invariably drinking when posting, ever after. The actual truth is that all alcoholic drinks make me sleepy, and I can rarely tolerate them. But some will not let the truth stand in the way of vicious innuendo.
But, we cannot fix a oenophobe, and it isn’t our job anyway.
That's funny coming from someone who belongs to a church with the history of the Roman one.
They are taught that the needy among us are children of satan, goats, or tares. Love your neighbor does not apply.
Sometimes, it's still shocking to see the lengths of
UNMITIGATED FALSEHOOD; BEARING FALSE WITNESS; OUTRAGEOUSLY ABSURD TO IRRATIONAL ASSERTIONS; ETC.
Which folks of the Roman Catholic et al rabid cliques are willing to habitually go. Fascinating . . . if one can get over the pathetic and sad aspects.
Well, we can be thankful that Calvin didn't live in the first century or all us Catholics would be dead.
IIRC, I’ve seen more than a time or 2 hereon, vigorously insistent assertions by the usual rabid clique sorts of folks quite the contrary to your assertion in that post.
I GUESS IT’S YET FURTHER DOCUMENTATION that Roman Catholic dogma etc. is so rubbery and flexible as to fit whatever the poster wants it to fit, at the time.
Impressive DOUBLE STANDARD STUFF yet again.
Alex Murphy, Dr E—am I wrong about such folks saying hereon at least several times how the “Sacraments” of the Roman church confer, transfer, bestow graces upon the participating members?
So, why do Catholics so consistently and predictably vote Democratic and support liberal pro-homosexual and pro-abortion candidates like Kerry, Kennedy, and Pelosi?
How Christlike is it to condone murder and mockery of marriage and sexual perversion?
Didn't Christ regularly tell people to go and sin no more?
You post the pictures, Mark. You make smarmy comparisons. You call people names.
You make this personal, time and again.
Try not to.
NICE THAT SOMEONE else noticed.
WHAT WERE YOU QUOTING?
You shouldn't have spent more time studying when you were a Catholic. Catechism of the Catholic Church
Thank God protestants have the sure revelation of the scriptures as their authority..
Welcome to the spagetti farm of Protestantism, each denomination splitting from the other over their own interpretations.
Here's the Presbyterian farm:
One that keeps them from getting pinned down and shown to be contradictory and one that is designed to keep the opponents off balance because you can always fall back on *That's not what the Catholic Church REALLY teaches*, without having to tell what it DOES really teach, because nobody really knows.
Catholics who attend mass weekly, unlike the huge numbers of liberal protestants, do not vote for CINOS, do not contribute to CCHD, do not support abortion under any circumstances, do not support gay marriage, do not support the use of embryonic stem cells, and do not vote for those who do.
I suspect you already knew that, but could not resist the calumny.
And all in such a short time!!!
You sourced http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm
But that’s not vatican.va, the only “official” source for information about what the Catholic Church *really* teaches.
And if you don’t like that, take it up with your fellow Catholics because I’m just telling you what they tell me.
UNMITIGATED FALSEHOOD; BEARING FALSE WITNESS; OUTRAGEOUSLY ABSURD TO IRRATIONAL ASSERTIONS; ETC.
Read the links here and you soon will find that there's no absurdity in the statement. The sad truth is there for all to see.
You’re a bit behind the times about the Catholic Church and its alleged relation to Scripture.
According to your Catholic compatriots, the Bible was written by the *church fathers* and since all the authors of the NT are considered Roman Catholic by default, therefore, the Catholic Church wrote the Bible.
Whats with obsession with rubber?
Christ was speaking TO THE JEWS. It is in the Dispensation of the Law.
Paul was speaking TO THE JEWS. About the Dispensation of the LAW. He is comparing the Dispensation of the Law and the Dispensation of Grace. Jew and Gentile. Israel having the blessings under the Law, but warning against pride. The blessings of Gentiles in the Dispensation of Grace but the warning against pride. Admonishing Christians against pride and idolatry as had befallen Israel.
The Jews ate the same spiritual meat, and drank the same spiritual drink: for the drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.(1 Corinthians10: 3,4). Again, under the Law.
We are not under the Law. We are in the Dispensation of the Grace of God.
MOST FITTINGLY AND PROPERLY ADDRESSED
to your Roman Catholic et al cohorts—particularly folks of the rabid clique variety.
It’s rather distressing the way the Vatican Institution as represented hereon keeps shoving such elastic, rubbery, mangled junk in Proddys’ et al’s faces.
Dreary horrific stuff, really.
IT WOULD BE A WONDEROUS RELIEF TO NEVER SEE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF IT FROM THE VATICAN RUBBER/ELASTIC/MANGLED FACTORY AND RUBBER/ELASTIC/MANGLED LIBRARY.
lol. Your post shows no understanding of John Calvin.
From his commentary on II Corinthians 8:15, Calvin writes,
"...God has enjoined upon us frugality and temperance, and has forbidden, that anyone should go to excess, taking advantage of his abundance. Let those, then, that have riches, whether they have been left by inheritance, or procured by industry and efforts, consider that their abundance was not intended to be laid out in intemperance or excess, but in relieving the necessities of the brethren. (297)...
Calvin, like Paul and Peter and John and Luke knew that the sermon on the mount was not a prescription for salvation, but a description of the Christian life, once renewed by the Holy Spirit to accomplish the good works of Christ within them.
Very clever. You must not be the average Protestant.
the only official source for information about what the Catholic Church *really* teaches.
The Catechism is put out by the Church. It shows up on numerous sites, but is the same document.
Since it appears to bother you so much, feel free to access the same document here Catechism of the Catholic Church. I hope having it at your "official" source makes you feel better.
That post does not make a lick of sense. Please try again.
The only "alleging" is yours.
since all the authors of the NT are considered Roman Catholic by default
No they aren't.
Like the Protestants the Catholic Church burned to death, or tortured to death in the Inquisition?
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
The Roman Catholic Church history is an abomination and a stain on the history of Christianity. The corruption that existed in the papacy for so long, the sale of indulgences, the suppression of knowledge because it contradicted church teaching (Galileo for example), just to mention a few....
The only reason it has changed is because of the Reformation. As people actually began to read and understand the clear teachings of Scripture, they saw what a farce the RCC had put up and were leaving it.
It forced the RCC to make changes in itself that would NEVER have happened otherwise.
And to try to claim that an organization with that kind of history is what Christ established on earth to represent Himself is to spit in Christ’s face. Jesus would NEVER condone the behavior that ran rampant in the Roman Catholic Church throughout most of its history. He would never condone that kind of sin and deception.
EXACTLY. Like what cults do. Except with their own sovereign STATE.
Your obsession with rubber and latex references is perverse and creepy.
And what's sad, there are even more yet to come.
NOT AT ALL.
Just describing the RC REALITY.
Anyone who has ever read Calvin's Sermons on the Beatitudes knows just how false your posting really is. Calvin worked hard to diminish the Beatitudes and the Gospels in order to pave the way for his heresy.
Of COURSE it doesn’t Judith Anne. Because you think you are in the Dispensation of the Law. And you are NOT. You are living in the Dispensation of the Grace of God. That’s what rightly dividing is about. KNOW YOUR DISPENSATION. You can eat and drink the “body of Christ” until you burst, it’s not going to save you. You will find your salvation in Paul’s Epistles.
And you know this how?
I worked with a lot of Catholics who were VERY faithful in their attendance, easily going beyond weekly attendance, often more than once a week, some of which were KofC and still voted as liberal as they come.
When asked why, they couldn't give a decent answer.
How can you seriously expect us to believe, considering Catholic voting block history, your statement to be true, much less that you know the voting habits of all Catholics well enough to be able to make blanket statements like that?
Why is the Catholic Church so silent about these politicians?
Hey, if you want to see some REAL rubberizing, take a look at this post. The words in brackets are Quix's own. The blatant hypocrisy is sad.
Are you involved in any type of small group Bible study?
Do you have time to regularly read your Bible?
I am assuming that if you do these things your mind is turned on and your seeking to understand the Word of God better. Why would a priest do a better job thinking for you than you?
mm: “since all the authors of the NT are considered Roman Catholic by default”
Titanites: “No they aren’t.”
OK, so, now we have it here. The authors of the New Testament were NOT Catholic.
My word! That’s certainly an angry post! I think I’m too thin-skinned to hang around and let people bash my Church. Have fun!
Facts are pesky things, aren’t they?
maybe...that COULD change depending on what that book that doesn’t exist says.
Pretty good company to be in!
If God is with us who can stand against us?
Baloney! Christ has already found me and saved me. Paul had nothing to do with it.
You can read here about the Protestant churches liberalizing their view on abortion - not individuals, but the churches themselves.
Work on your reading comprehension, and don't put words in my mouth.
If you're ever looking for the Holy Spirit to guide you, He's in Paul's Epistles. He knows what Dispensation we're in.
It sounds like you are another one who believes you must read Scripture to be saved.
The fact that I am not going to answer you does not mean I cannot refute you, it means that this discussion is over for me. The incredible rudeness of some of the posts has become intolerable.