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Mormon imagery runs deep in ‘Twilight’
Religion News Service (Salt Lake Tribune) ^ | June 24, 2010 | Angela Aleiss

Posted on 06/24/2010 11:10:11 AM PDT by Colofornian

Los Angeles • Ever since Bram Stoker’s Dracula began haunting the imagination in 1897, popular culture has identified Christian symbols — crucifixes, holy water, communion wafers — as weapons to ward off a blood-thirsty vampire.

The Twilight novels and film franchise have religious associations, too — most of them from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

As the film’s “Twi-hard” fans get ready for the third “Twilight” installment, “Eclipse,” to open in theaters Wednesday, few are likely to recognize the religious references in the film based on the novels by Stephenie Meyer, herself a Mormon.

“People make up all these Mormon references just so they can publish ‘Twilight’ articles in respectable publications like The New York Times,” actor Robert Pattinson (Edward, the film’s central vampire character), told Entertainment Weekly. “Even Stephenie said it doesn’t mean any of that.”

It’s possible that Meyer never set out to weave LDS imagery into the ‘Twilight’ background. Yet intentional or otherwise, it’s hard to ignore:

• The story’s teenage heroine, Bella, avoids coffee, tea, alcohol and tobacco — not unlike the Mormons’ “Word of Wisdom” health code. Bella also advises her father to “cut back on steak,” much like the LDS teaching to eat meat and poultry “sparingly.”

• Feminists have questioned Bella’s frequent cooking and cleaning — household chores that reflect a strong Mormon work ethic and traditional roles for women. The official motto for mostly Mormon Utah is “Industry,” and its symbol is the beehive.

• A crucial Mormon belief is that humans can become divine. In the “Twilight” series, the Cullen family of vampires once was human but now lives without death in a resurrected condition. Meyer describes the Cullens, particularly Edward, as “godlike” and “inhumanly beautiful.”

• Mormons believe angels are resurrected beings of flesh and bone. The most familiar is Moroni, who stands high atop LDS temples, trumpet in hand. The Book of Mormon, the faith’s trademark Scripture, says Moroni was a fifth-century prophet who visited church founder Joseph Smith. Smith described Moroni as radiating light and “glorious beyond description.”

Bella describes her vampire boyfriend, Edward, as an angel whom she cannot imagine “any more glorious.” Edward’s skin sparkles in the sunlight, and he visits Bella’s bedroom at night. But Mormon angels don’t have wings; in the “Twilight” film, Edward sits in the science lab, the outstretched wings of a stuffed white owl just over his shoulders.

• A unique LDS teaching is that marriages are “sealed” for eternity; spouses are referred to as eternal companions. Bella describes her relationship with Edward as “forever.”

• Bella and Edward’s marriage, and her quick pregnancy, underscore the Mormon emphasis on the family. But Bella’s half human/vampire fetus nearly destroys her, so her distraught husband suggests an abortion and artificial insemination. Mormons permit abortions if the mother’s life is in danger, and artificial insemination is an option for married couples.

Bella quickly vetoes abortion and artificial insemination, reinforcing the essential Mormon teaching of individual choice, or “agency.” Meyer has said that the apple on the cover of the first Twilight novel represents Eve’s choice in the Garden of Eden. The poster for “Eclipse” includes the line: “It all begins ... with a choice.” The patriarch of the vampire family, Carlisle Cullen, supports Bella when he explains that “it wouldn’t be right to make such a choice for her, to force her.”

Bram Stoker probably never imagined that vampires would represent a religious doctrine. But more than a century later, Twilight shows that these nocturnal creatures can accommodate just about anything.

Angela Aleiss teaches film and religion at the University of California, Los Angeles.


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• A crucial Mormon belief is that humans can become divine. In the “Twilight” series, the Cullen family of vampires once was human but now lives without death in a resurrected condition. Meyer describes the Cullens, particularly Edward, as “godlike” and “inhumanly beautiful.”

So. Mormons-who-become-gods are compared by this author to vampire creatures. Interesting parallel.

And who might be the "godlike," "inhumanly beautiful" Head Vampire might be?

Why, just go to the Bible, where passages from Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 seem to describe Lucifer as he was making the transition from angel to head devil:

'Godlike': I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." (Isaiah 14:14)

'Inhumanly beautiful':
11 The word of the LORD came to me:
12 "Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says:
" 'You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden, the garden of God;
every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold;
on the day you were created they were prepared.
14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.
15 You were blameless in your ways
from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you.
16 Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones.
17 Your heart became proud on account of your beauty,
and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor.
So I threw you to the earth;
I made a spectacle of you before kings.
(Ezekiel 28:11-17)

1 posted on 06/24/2010 11:10:15 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Twi-hard?

/puke

2 posted on 06/24/2010 11:12:41 AM PDT by Hexenhammer (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Colofornian
Related thread:
Twilight #8 (Christian commentary on the Chapter 8 of the first book in the series)
3 posted on 06/24/2010 11:18:22 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2503089/posts?page=9#9)
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To: Hexenhammer
Twi-hard?

(Yeah, they do twi-hard...very "twi-hard"...as in 'pull-yourself-up-by-your own bootstraps hard: "Man can transform himself, but he has in him the seeds of Godhood that can grow. He can lift himself by his very bootstraps" (Lds 12th "prophet" Spencer W.Kimball, Salt Lake Tribune, Sept. 18, 1974))

Now you can see why many FReepers are not very thrilled about a man running for the White House who thinks it's just a "career stop" on his way to assuming the Great White Throne!

Twi-hard Twi-light ... a tale about the dead vampires?

[More like Twi-dark...very dark...you can't get much more "dark" than Lucifer trying to become a "god" (Isaiah 14; Ezekiel 28:1-17)]

4 posted on 06/24/2010 11:18:30 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Oh brother. You can find anything and relate it to something in movies if you try hard enough. This is the biggest garbage story I have read lately. If anyone believes this trash....you are clearly stupid!!!!!


5 posted on 06/24/2010 11:19:05 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Colofornian
Ever since Bram Stoker’s Dracula began haunting the imagination in 1897, popular culture has identified Christian symbols — crucifixes, holy water, communion wafers — as weapons to ward off a blood-thirsty vampire.

Gee, I wonder why, Angela? Maybe it's because vampires are seen as demons, who 'tremble' (according to St. Paul) at the Son of Man. (That's Jesus, Angela, in case you haven't read the Bible.) Yes, Angela, the Devil fears Jesus' power, as represented by these symbols.

6 posted on 06/24/2010 11:20:52 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (There is no "common good" which minimizes or sacrifices the individual. --Walter Scott Hudson)
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To: Colofornian

I haven’t seen the movie or red the book, but this sounds like an extreme stretch.


7 posted on 06/24/2010 11:21:10 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Colofornian
A crucial Mormon belief is that humans can become divine.

The essence of New Age, right there. In fact, the essence of the satanic rebellion against God from the very beginning. This alone highlights that Mormonism is satanic in its doctrine.

8 posted on 06/24/2010 11:22:17 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When fascism came to America, it was wrapped in the Democrat platform and carrying a welfare check.)
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To: Colofornian

I’m not a Mormon. I believe they are in error.

But as far as this article goes, I think it’s a stretch.

The big problem with the Twilight series is that it glorifies an abusive relationship. Bella is continually being hurt by an emotionally unstable man, who loves her, runs out on her, hurts her, runs out on her, etc. He gives her emotional whiplash.

The movies are replete with images of this woman bleeding because the people she adores and is passionately drawn to keep hurting her “and they can’t help it.” The message continally is sent that if you find the love of your life, you will end up physically hurt.

She even throws herself in the ocean so she can “see” him one last time.

I tell my friends who have young girls who are fascinated with this relationship in this movie to talk to them about what an unhealthy relationship consists of.


9 posted on 06/24/2010 11:23:00 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: Colofornian
Or it could be explained by this insightful video on youTube - Why Twilight is Popular
10 posted on 06/24/2010 11:27:01 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Colofornian

Dumb article.

Those references could mean anything.

The good news, Colo, is the nature of the article itself is disparaging toward LDS, so you shouldn’t take any heat for doing nothing more than posting this lame article.


11 posted on 06/24/2010 11:28:32 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Hexenhammer

The Twilight series is a fantasy movie.

Guess what it will be in ten years???

Another forgotten Hollywood serial as the next generation of teen age girls and grown ups who a still trying to relive their adolescence, are focused on yet another teen fad.


12 posted on 06/24/2010 11:30:11 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Colofornian

Big deal. A person’s background, beliefs, philosophy, etc., will often make its way into fiction books.


13 posted on 06/24/2010 11:30:19 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: I still care
I tell my friends who have young girls who are fascinated with this relationship in this movie to talk to them about what an unhealthy relationship consists of.

BINGO!

14 posted on 06/24/2010 11:30:59 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: Colofornian

Feminists despise these books because they present abstinence and commitment as the foundation of true love.


15 posted on 06/24/2010 11:31:11 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Colofornian

That’s a big Captain Obvious article. Of course an author is going to write from the perspective of their experience.

In the same way, you can find Catholic imagery all through Ann Rice’s Vampire novels.


16 posted on 06/24/2010 11:32:42 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Colofornian

This article is an extreme stretch and very much an application of the writer’s own biases towards the subject.

Each bullet point can be tied to multiple religions, writing techniques, and pop culture.

The story’s teenage heroine, Bella, avoids coffee, tea, alcohol and tobacco — not unlike the Mormons’ “Word of Wisdom” health code. Bella also advises her father to “cut back on steak,” much like the LDS teaching to eat meat and poultry “sparingly.”

Are Mormons the only ones who dont drink, smoke or eat red meat? What about Prohibitionist Baptists? What about Hindus? How about non religious vegans.

• Feminists have questioned Bella’s frequent cooking and cleaning — household chores that reflect a strong Mormon work ethic and traditional roles for women. The official motto for mostly Mormon Utah is “Industry,” and its symbol is the beehive.

Because the heroine of the story cooks and cleans, and because Mormon women cook and clean, they are related? If a=b and a=c, it does not mean b=c (apple is red, apple is round, round is not red)

• A crucial Mormon belief is that humans can become divine. In the “Twilight” series, the Cullen family of vampires once was human but now lives without death in a resurrected condition. Meyer describes the Cullens, particularly Edward, as “godlike” and “inhumanly beautiful.”

All vampire mythology has vampires living forever with incredible beauty.

• Mormons believe angels are resurrected beings of flesh and bone. The most familiar is Moroni, who stands high atop LDS temples, trumpet in hand. The Book of Mormon, the faith’s trademark Scripture, says Moroni was a fifth-century prophet who visited church founder Joseph Smith. Smith described Moroni as radiating light and “glorious beyond description.”

Bella describes her vampire boyfriend, Edward, as an angel whom she cannot imagine “any more glorious.” Edward’s skin sparkles in the sunlight, and he visits Bella’s bedroom at night. But Mormon angels don’t have wings; in the “Twilight” film, Edward sits in the science lab, the outstretched wings of a stuffed white owl just over his shoulders.

Another a=b, a=c, b=/=c. Plus, how many teenage girls say their boyfriend is glorious?

• A unique LDS teaching is that marriages are “sealed” for eternity; spouses are referred to as eternal companions. Bella describes her relationship with Edward as “forever.”

How many non-Mormon’s have ever said they will be with their spouse forever. Quite a few. Every one I know that is married has said something similar.

• Bella and Edward’s marriage, and her quick pregnancy, underscore the Mormon emphasis on the family. But Bella’s half human/vampire fetus nearly destroys her, so her distraught husband suggests an abortion and artificial insemination. Mormons permit abortions if the mother’s life is in danger, and artificial insemination is an option for married couples.

Liberals also permit abortions. This is not reserved solely for Mormons.

None of the bullets relate directly to Mormons, or Mormonism or anything of the sort. You have to want it to be true to say that.


17 posted on 06/24/2010 11:34:57 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: All; Alex Murphy; Hexenhammer; napscoordinator; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; backwoods-engineer; ...
From the article: • A unique LDS teaching is that marriages are “sealed” for eternity; spouses are referred to as eternal companions. Bella describes her relationship with Edward as “forever.”

Yup. Jesus said people become like angels in eternity – minus marriage partners. Mormonism’s Joseph Smith always trumped Jesus, though.
He and his followers now claim that “families are forever” – including a woman who may marry three men over her lifetime. If she was “sealed” to each man “for eternity” in a Mormon temple marriage, then guess who has three husbands and sleeps with said husbands over the course of “eternity” per Mormonism?

Plus it gets real convoluted in Mormonism’s “eternity.” Not only do Mormons divide up heaven into three degrees, but Temple Mormons who become gods supposedly get to keep all their children with them for eternity.

* But what happens when a son-in-law only lives up to the 2nd degree of heaven – especially since 80% or more of Mormons aren’t even temple Mormons, thereby disqualifying them from the top rung of heaven?
* And which set of in-laws parents do adult married children live with under the “program” of a “degreed” heaven? Where will their daughter live – with them in the highest degree or with the husband? – and if not the husband, so much for “families are forever!” I mean, how can a “middle ground” Mormon live with his “goddess wife” in a Celestial environment?
* Or “worse,” some family members turn “apostate” – what does that do to the faulty bumper-sticker promise?
* And where are the generational cut-offs made? Do adults live with their literal “god-parents” in Celestialville? Or, do they live with their children who didn’t keep up their temple “obligations” but were “Mormon-like” in all the rest of their rituals and legalistic law-and-precept keeping?

18 posted on 06/24/2010 11:35:20 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Raider Sam

What I find interesting about this article is that it seems to imply a negative connotation, yet most of the attributes they bring up are actually positive attributes.

You are right though, this article could have been written with any number of religions replacing Mormonism.


19 posted on 06/24/2010 11:40:39 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: antiRepublicrat; All
Big deal. A person’s background, beliefs, philosophy, etc., will often make its way into fiction books.

Well, it is a big deal if you have a Mormon worldview inculcating the wider culture. For example:

From the article: Bella describes her vampire boyfriend, Edward, as an angel whom she cannot imagine “any more glorious.” Edward’s skin sparkles in the sunlight, and he visits Bella’s bedroom at night. But Mormon angels don’t have wings; in the “Twilight” film, Edward sits in the science lab, the outstretched wings of a stuffed white owl just over his shoulders.

Mormons are big on angels. It’s not a cross that adorns their temples, but an angel – Moroni – a dead man – a “ghost” who Joseph Smith said appeared to him to show him golden plates.

Imagine that. Resting your entire life and eternity on a 14 yo boy who said a ghost appeared to him.

20 posted on 06/24/2010 11:42:53 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Good for the author! Bravo! I wish I was smart enough to make millions writing lame stuff. Mine would use FR imagery. Lots of zots and Viking kittens.


21 posted on 06/24/2010 11:43:46 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: mnehring; Raider Sam
What I find interesting about this article is that it seems to imply a negative connotation, yet most of the attributes they bring up are actually positive attributes. You are right though, this article could have been written with any number of religions replacing Mormonism.

(Except that Christianity doesn't teach that you will become gods...like Mormonism...or that marriage is forever...nor has most segments of Christianity not OD'd on angels)

22 posted on 06/24/2010 11:44:36 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Raider Sam
All vampire mythology has vampires living forever with incredible beauty.

(How long have you gone for that extremely pale gothic look?)

23 posted on 06/24/2010 11:47:40 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

I never understood why vampires, werewolves, etc, were looked upon as so evil. In all the movies and books, the majority of them did not become vampires willingly. They seem to look at it as a curse.


24 posted on 06/24/2010 11:48:45 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Colofornian
Now you can see why many FReepers are not very thrilled about a man running for the White House who thinks it's just a "career stop" on his way to assuming the Great White Throne!

Harry Reid's Mormonism never gets the Pravda Press coverage that Romney's does and he holds more power.

25 posted on 06/24/2010 11:48:46 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: Raider Sam
From the article: • A crucial Mormon belief is that humans can become divine. In the “Twilight” series, the Cullen family of vampires once was human but now lives without death in a resurrected condition. Meyer describes the Cullens, particularly Edward, as “godlike” and “inhumanly beautiful.”

All vampire mythology has vampires living forever with incredible beauty.

(I'm sorry, but I missed your disconnect here: How many vamp tales feature them becoming gods again?)

26 posted on 06/24/2010 11:49:49 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
A crucial Mormon belief is that humans can become divine. In the “Twilight” series, the Cullen family of vampires once was human but now lives without death in a resurrected condition. Meyer describes the Cullens, particularly Edward, as “godlike” and “inhumanly beautiful.”

./src on/Do Mormons believe a thirst for blood is part of being in a "resurrected condition"?/src off/

27 posted on 06/24/2010 11:51:26 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: stuartcr
I never understood why vampires, werewolves, etc, were looked upon as so evil. In all the movies and books, the majority of them did not become vampires willingly. They seem to look at it as a curse.

(Perhaps it had something to do with them "passing the curse" on...often exhibited in movies by their predator vs. prey mentality...that "attack" look in their eyes...and their many serial killer victims left to bleed and pass on that curse)

28 posted on 06/24/2010 11:52:04 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: stinkerpot65

Only liberals could insist that sexual abstinence (or more specifically homosexual abstinence) is “impossible” yet there are many liberals who are vegans who are unwilling to eat meat out of personal “moral” choice, not taste or desire (some vegetarians will bend at a barbecue but others just get outraged at the tempter).


29 posted on 06/24/2010 11:53:41 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: Colofornian

That must be it.


30 posted on 06/24/2010 11:53:57 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: C19fan

I have noticed my Mormon friends to seem to have pronounced canine teeth and don’t like to be out in the sun. :-[


31 posted on 06/24/2010 11:54:40 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Raider Sam
Another a=b, a=c, b=/=c. Plus, how many teenage girls say their boyfriend is glorious?

(Oh sure. I run into teen girls all the time talking about the "sparkling skin" of their guys...as for the bedroom visitations in the book/movie, Joseph Smith said the angel Moroni visited him in his bedroom...and they make the point that in the movie an angel-like image is quickly flashed via the wings in the background of the character)

32 posted on 06/24/2010 11:55:39 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: mnehring; C19fan
I have noticed my Mormon friends to seem to have pronounced canine teeth and don’t like to be out in the sun. :-[

For a time, Joseph Smith liked to give his followers distinct names. He did so for a particular individual named John Johnson:

Hit the time machine re-wind button. Kirtland, Ohio. It's June 4, 1833. We visit Joseph Smith, Jr. where he's writing out Doctrines & Covenants 97:6 (dubbed as Mormon "scripture"): And again, verily I say unto you, it is wisdom and expedient in me, that my servant Zombre [John Johnson] whose offerings I have accepted...

Hmmm..."Zombre"...Why, I betcha as Joseph Smith was "translating" these things, looking into his hat, he mistook an "r" for an "i" and came up with Zombre -- when the "spirit" communicating to him really was communicating "Zombie".

Spirits were having the "last laugh" on their "translation" victims.

33 posted on 06/24/2010 12:02:14 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: napscoordinator
You can find anything and relate it to something in movies if you try hard enough

The story’s teenage heroine, Bella, avoids coffee, tea, alcohol and tobacco

....I guess that makes my nephew a Mormon.....He must have caught it from his Asian and Indian friends in med school.......LOL!

34 posted on 06/24/2010 12:06:29 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: Colofornian

::facepalm::

I am surprised that you haven’t seen the Pandora connection yet. Pandora is one of Anne Rice’s most powerful vampires. Also, there is the old addadge is “Pandora’s Box”. Joseph Smith supposedly kept the gold plates in a box...

Wow.. check out those connections.

Just wait until I reveal the super secret Vampire Lestat connection.

(BTW, do us a favor and never read Anne Rice’s Memnoch the Devil, your head will explode).


35 posted on 06/24/2010 12:08:09 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Colofornian
What's more obvious is the mormon imagery in "Battlestar Galactica" a ragtag group of refugees searching the lost planet of Salt Lake City, er , I mean earth.

CC

36 posted on 06/24/2010 12:10:25 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (ostende mihi pecuniam!)
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To: Colofornian

Dude seriously you have an obsession problem.

The MORMONZ IZ EVERYWHAR!! HEYULP! Dey in mah Mooveez now!!

Seriously though your anti-Mormon obsessive behavior was already over the top. You are now headed off the deep-end.


37 posted on 06/24/2010 12:25:57 PM PDT by Paragon Defender
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To: Colofornian; Monkey Face
BITE ME!
38 posted on 06/24/2010 12:58:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SeaDragon

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39 posted on 06/24/2010 12:58:45 PM PDT by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: napscoordinator
If anyone believes this trash....you are clearly stupid!!!!!

MORMONism?

It claims 12,000,000 members...

40 posted on 06/24/2010 12:59:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
 
A crucial Mormon belief is that humans can become divine.

The essence of New Age, right there. In fact, the essence of the satanic rebellion against God from the very beginning.




 

 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded July 12, 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, as also plurality of wives. HC 5: 501–507. Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.
1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way that leads to eternal lives; 26–27, Law given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation made to prophets and saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
  1 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many awives and bconcubines
  2 Behold, and lo, I am the Lord thy God, and will answer thee as touching this matter.
  3 Therefore, aprepare thy heart to receive and bobey the instructions which I am about to give unto you; for all those who have this law revealed unto them must obey the same.
  4 For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an everlasting acovenant; and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye bdamned; for no one can creject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory.
  5 For all who will have a ablessing at my hands shall abide the blaw which was appointed for that blessing, and the conditions thereof, as were instituted from before the foundation of the world.
  6 And as pertaining to the new and aeverlasting covenant, it was instituted for the fulness of my bglory; and he that receiveth a fulness thereof must and shall abide the law, or he shall be damned, saith the Lord God.
  7 And verily I say unto you, that the aconditions of this law are these: All covenants, contracts, bonds, obligations, boaths, cvows, performances, connections, associations, or expectations, that are not made and entered into and dsealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, of him who is eanointed, both as well for time and for all eternity, and that too most holy, by frevelation and commandment through the medium of mine anointed, whom I have appointed on the earth to hold this gpower (and I have appointed unto my servant Joseph to hold this hpower in the last days, and there is never but one on the earth at a time on whom this power and the ikeys of this priesthood are conferred), are of no efficacy, virtue, or force in and after the resurrection from the dead; for all contracts that are not made unto this end have an end when men are dead.
  8 Behold, mine house is a house of aorder, saith the Lord God, and not a house of confusion.
  9 Will I aaccept of an offering, saith the Lord, that is not made in my name?
  10 Or will I receive at your hands that which I have not aappointed?
  11 And will I appoint unto you, saith the Lord, except it be by law, even as I and my Father aordained unto you, before the world was?
  12 I am the Lord thy God; and I give unto you this commandment—that no man shall acome unto the Father but by me or by my word, which is my law, saith the Lord.
  13 And everything that is in the world, whether it be ordained of men, by athrones, or principalities, or powers, or things of name, whatsoever they may be, that are not by me or by my word, saith the Lord, shall be thrown down, and shall bnot remain after men are dead, neither in nor after the resurrection, saith the Lord your God.
  14 For whatsoever things remain are by me; and whatsoever things are not by me shall be shaken and destroyed.
  15 Therefore, if a aman marry him a wife in the world, and he marry her not by me nor by my word, and he covenant with her so long as he is in the world and she with him, their covenant and marriage are not of force when they are dead, and when they are out of the world; therefore, they are not bound by any law when they are out of the world.
  16 Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.
  17 For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.
  18 And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.
  19 And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.
  20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.
  21 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.
  22 For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.
  23 But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.
  24 This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.
  25 aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.
  26 Verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man marry a wife according to my word, and they are sealed by the aHoly Spirit of promise, according to mine appointment, and he or she shall commit any sin or transgression of the new and everlasting covenant whatever, and all manner of blasphemies, and if they bcommit no murder wherein they shed innocent blood, yet they shall come forth in the first resurrection, and enter into their exaltation; but they shall be destroyed in the flesh, and shall be cdelivered unto the buffetings of dSatan unto the day of eredemption, saith the Lord God.
  27 The ablasphemy against the Holy Ghost, which shall bnot be cforgiven in the world nor out of the world, is in that ye commit dmurder wherein ye shed innocent blood, and assent unto my death, after ye have received my new and everlasting covenant, saith the Lord God; and he that abideth not this law can in nowise enter into my glory, but shall be edamned, saith the Lord.
  28 I am the Lord thy God, and will give unto thee the alaw of my Holy Priesthood, as was ordained by me and my Father before the world was.
  29 aAbraham received all things, whatsoever he received, by revelation and commandment, by my word, saith the Lord, and hath entered into his exaltation and sitteth upon his throne.
  30 aAbraham received promises concerning his seed, and of the fruit of his loins—from whose bloins ye are, namely, my servant Joseph—which were to continue so long as they were in the world; and as touching Abraham and his seed, out of the world they should continue; both in the world and out of the world should they continue as innumerable as the cstars; or, if ye were to count the sand upon the seashore ye could not number them.
  31 This promise is yours also, because ye are of aAbraham, and the promise was made unto Abraham; and by this law is the continuation of the works of my Father, wherein he glorifieth himself.
  32 Go ye, therefore, and do the aworks of Abraham; enter ye into my law and ye shall be saved.
  33 But if ye enter not into my law ye cannot receive the promise of my Father, which he made unto Abraham.
  34 God acommanded Abraham, and Sarah gave bHagar to Abraham to wife. And why did she do it? Because this was the law; and from Hagar sprang many people. This, therefore, was fulfilling, among other things, the promises.
  35 Was Abraham, therefore, under condemnation? Verily I say unto you, Nay; for I, the Lord, acommanded it.
  36 Abraham was acommanded to offer his son Isaac; nevertheless, it was written: Thou shalt not bkill. Abraham, however, did not refuse, and it was accounted unto him for crighteousness.
  37 Abraham received aconcubines, and they bore him children; and it was accounted unto him for righteousness, because they were given unto him, and he abode in my law; as Isaac also and bJacob did none other things than that which they were commanded; and because they did none other things than that which they were commanded, they have entered into their cexaltation, according to the promises, and sit upon thrones, and are not angels but are gods.
  38 David also received amany wives and concubines, and also Solomon and Moses my servants, as also many others of my servants, from the beginning of creation until this time; and in nothing did they sin save in those things which they received not of me.
  39 aDavid’s wives and concubines were bgiven unto him of me, by the hand of Nathan, my servant, and others of the prophets who had the ckeys of this power; and in none of these things did he dsin against me save in the case of eUriah and his wife; and, therefore he hath ffallen from his exaltation, and received his portion; and he shall not inherit them out of the world, for I ggave them unto another, saith the Lord.
  40 I am the Lord thy God, and I gave unto thee, my servant Joseph, an aappointment, and restore all things. Ask what ye will, and it shall be given unto you according to my word.
  41 And as ye have asked concerning adultery, verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man areceiveth a wife in the new and everlasting covenant, and if she be with another man, and I have not appointed unto her by the holy banointing, she hath committed cadultery and shall be destroyed.
  42 If she be not in the new and everlasting covenant, and she be with another man, she has acommitted adultery.
  43 And if her husband be with another woman, and he was under a avow, he hath broken his vow and hath committed adultery.
  44 And if she hath not committed adultery, but is innocent and hath not broken her vow, and she knoweth it, and I reveal it unto you, my servant Joseph, then shall you have power, by the power of my Holy Priesthood, to take her and agive her unto him that hath not committed badultery but hath been cfaithful; for he shall be made ruler over many.
  45 For I have conferred upon you the akeys and power of the priesthood, wherein I brestore all things, and make known unto you all things in due time.
  46 And verily, verily, I say unto you, that whatsoever you aseal on earth shall be sealed in heaven; and whatsoever you bbind on earth, in my name and by my word, saith the Lord, it shall be eternally bound in the heavens; and whosesoever sins you cremit on earth shall be remitted eternally in the heavens; and whosesoever sins you retain on earth shall be retained in heaven.
  47 And again, verily I say, whomsoever you bless I will bless, and whomsoever you curse I will acurse, saith the Lord; for I, the Lord, am thy God.
  48 And again, verily I say unto you, my servant Joseph, that whatsoever you give on earth, and to whomsoever you agive any one on earth, by my word and according to my law, it shall be visited with blessings and not cursings, and with my power, saith the Lord, and shall be without condemnation on earth and in heaven.
  49 For I am the Lord thy God, and will be awith thee even unto the bend of the world, and through all eternity; for verily I cseal upon you your dexaltation, and prepare a throne for you in the kingdom of my Father, with Abraham your efather.
  50 Behold, I have seen your asacrifices, and will forgive all your sins; I have seen your bsacrifices in obedience to that which I have told you. Go, therefore, and I make a way for your escape, as I caccepted the offering of Abraham of his son Isaac.
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.
  57 And again, I say, let not my servant Joseph put his property out of his hands, lest an enemy come and destroy him; for aSatan bseeketh to destroy; for I am the Lord thy God, and he is my servant; and behold, and lo, I am with him, as I was with Abraham, thy father, even unto his cexaltation and glory.
  58 Now, as touching the law of the apriesthood, there are many things pertaining thereunto.
  59 Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was aAaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that bsent me, and I have endowed him with the ckeys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit dsin, and I will justify him.
  60 Let no one, therefore, set on my servant Joseph; for I will justify him; for he shall do the sacrifice which I require at his hands for his transgressions, saith the Lord your God.
  61 And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood—if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse aanother, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else.
  62 And if he have aten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore is he justified.
  63 But if one or either of the ten virgins, after she is espoused, shall be with another man, she has committed adultery, and shall be destroyed; for they are given unto him to amultiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be bglorified.
  64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law.
  65 Therefore, it shall be lawful in me, if she receive not this law, for him to receive all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him, because she did not believe and administer unto him according to my word; and she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt from the law of Sarah, who administered unto Abraham according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take aHagar to wife.
  66 And now, as pertaining to this law, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will reveal more unto you, hereafter; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen.
 
 

41 posted on 06/24/2010 1:01:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: I still care
But as far as this article goes, I think it’s a stretch.

Oh?

Which comparisons do you find to be fAULTY?

42 posted on 06/24/2010 1:02:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hot Tabasco

And she (gasp!) cleans house! Feminists said so! Mormon!!!!!!!!!!!!


43 posted on 06/24/2010 1:03:11 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: I still care
 
The message continally is sent that if you find the love of your life, you will end up physically hurt.
 
 
I've heard of things like that!
 

 
 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice
 
 
 
 

Whatever HAPPENED to Emma???
 
Eliza was a devout Mormon. At age 38, she became Joseph Smith's 14th plural wife (in addition to Smith's lawful wife, Emma). In 1842, after learning Eliza was pregnant, Emma Smith beat Eliza with a broomstick and knocked her down a flight of stairs, causing Eliza to miscarry Smith's baby.
 
 
Wow!!
 
 
I guess ol' Emma got VAPORIZED by GOD!!!
 
 
We know that multiply him thing sure didn't work out!

44 posted on 06/24/2010 1:05:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mnehring

Ramses the Damned is actually full of Southern Baptist imagery. The Mayfair Witch books are also a warning on the dangers of mixing religion and politics.


45 posted on 06/24/2010 1:08:41 PM PDT by LanPB01
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To: Raider Sam
 
Are Mormons the only ones who dont drink, smoke or eat red meat?
 
 
HMMMmmm...
 

 
 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 89
Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.
 
1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.
 
  1 A aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—
  2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—
  3 Given for a principle with apromise, adapted to the capacity of the bweak and the weakest of all csaints, who are or can be called saints.
  4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of bconspiring men in the last days, I have cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—
  5 That inasmuch as any man adrinketh bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.
  6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.
  7 And, again, astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.
  8 And again, tobacco is not for the abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.
  9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.
  10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—
  11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with aprudence and bthanksgiving.
  12 Yea, aflesh also of bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used csparingly;
  13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or bfamine.
  14 All agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;
  15 And athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.
  16 All grain is good for the afood of man; as also the bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—
  17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.
  18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ashall receive bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;
  19 And shall afind bwisdom and great ctreasures of dknowledge, even hidden treasures;
  20 And shall arun and not be bweary, and shall walk and not faint.
  21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the adestroying angel shall bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.

46 posted on 06/24/2010 1:08:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nickcarraway

Not exactly. From Wikipedia:

“Inspiration and themes

According to the author, her books are “about life, not death” and “love, not lust”. Each book in the series was inspired by and loosely based on a different literary classic: Twilight on Jane Austen’s Pride and Prejudice, New Moon on Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet, Eclipse on Emily Brontë’s Wuthering Heights, and Breaking Dawn on a second Shakespeare play, A Midsummer Night’s Dream.[16] Meyer also states that Orson Scott Card and L. M. Montgomery’s Anne of Green Gables series are a big influence on her writing.[13]
Other major themes of the series include choice and free will.[13][17] Meyer says that the books are centered around Bella’s choice to choose her life on her own, and the Cullens’ choices to abstain from killing rather than follow their temptations: “I really think that’s the underlying metaphor of my vampires. It doesn’t matter where you’re stuck in life or what you think you have to do; you can always choose something else. There’s always a different path.”
Meyer, a Mormon, acknowledges that her faith has influenced her work. In particular, she says that her characters “tend to think more about where they came from, and where they are going, than might be typical.” Meyer also steers her work from subjects such as sex, despite the romantic nature of the novels. Meyer says that she does not consciously intend her novels to be Mormon-influenced, or to promote the virtues of sexual abstinence and spiritual purity, but admits that her writing is shaped by her values, saying, “I don’t think my books are going to be really graphic or dark, because of who I am. There’s always going to be a lot of light in my stories.”


47 posted on 06/24/2010 1:09:20 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Raider Sam
None of the bullets relate directly to Mormons, or Mormonism or anything of the sort.

You have to want it to be true to say that.

48 posted on 06/24/2010 1:09:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Larry Lucido

Now mix that idea with a bunch of OLD toys; and ya got yerself a $109 million opening weekend!!


49 posted on 06/24/2010 1:11:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
I just don't see how this is out of the ordinary.

Robert A. Heinlein's beliefs started liberal (in the modern not-good sense) and moved to strong individualism and self determination over the years. His books practically slap you in the face with those corresponding personal beliefs over the time. A quote from his character Lazarus Long can be considered a quote from him, and Jubal Hershaw in Stranger in a Strange Land is basically him.

50 posted on 06/24/2010 1:13:04 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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