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Prophecy! MESSIAH REVEALED! - Is He Coming Soon? - REDUX
YouTube ^ | June 29, 2010 | YouTube

Posted on 07/02/2010 4:43:38 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta

Well known and admired 108 year old Rabbi reveals the Messiah's name!


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To: Zionist Conspirator
There is certainly no reasoning involved. I'll give you that.

And there shouldn't be and you should know that.

Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. (REASONING)
351 posted on 07/04/2010 3:01:51 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Quix
BTW, I assume, you know I agree with you about this:
[roamer_1:] We will find it has been in evidence to every generation in their own time; of that I have no doubt at all. And the evidences presented to each generation are there, in history for us to seek out. Not only that, but the evidence of new revelation is being presented to our own generation in real time. These things we can readily see, if only we will open our eyes.

Of course I would expect that agreement! Still, the affirmation is nice.

My argument with Dispensationalism could be written off as splitting of hairs by some. But my two real disagreements are considered sacrilege to many.

All in all though, my kinship with Dispys comes from the fact that they have their eyes open - They saw the prophetic event of Israel's founding and it made them alert! Events since '48-'67 bring us very close together in our views.

Whether I am wrong, or you are, or we both are (not likely), is incidental to the whole picture - and as more is revealed, I have no doubt that errors will close up for those who are truly seeking.

352 posted on 07/04/2010 3:07:04 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: blasater1960

Blaster!

Way to go to spin something into Mis-Mosh! LOL...This is the thing many Orthodox Jews, Rabbi’s know very well Jesus Yeshua, Yehoshoua is the Messiah of the Jews and all of humanity.

First off many Orthodox Jews, Hasisdic *Do not want* Jesus to be the Messiah..WHY because they don’t like the Messiah that he is... They want a Messiah they feel fits into their mold..... I have listened to Rabbi Kaduri’s grandson, who said without a doubt Kaduri spoke of meeting the Messiah and many visions of him..Funny how respected Kaduri was however the minute he mentioned *Jesus* oops! must have dementia, must be looney, even some thought he turned into a *Christian* when he died.....

This is no different than 2000 yrs ago, when many respected Torah Observant Jews were vilified in mentioning Jesus as the Promised Messiah of Israel.....

Many Jews are growing weary hearing year after year *the Messiah is coming, it’s not Jesus but someone is coming..Who? no one knows, WHEN? no one knows, WHY hasn’t he came yet! NO one knows....Many Torah Observant Jews are finding there way to Yeshua, not by way of a certain Christian religion, nor denomination, but from the Hebrew Scriptures, Prayer to G-D by flat out asking him... *Adonai is Yeshua Ha Mashiaich* the Messiah of Israel? that Jewish Rabbi from Nazareth they are finding out all on there own... True the info is out there...

No Messiah is coming *Blaster* other than the the Christ..The only living begotten Son of the Living true G-D of all things *Created* you will see, it is getting closer
Will he come after Sharon’s dies like Kaduri stated? not sure time will tell....But ask yourself this Blaster, with all the suffering, war, mayhem, heartache and especially the pain the Jewish people have to endure in a world growing more hostile towards them, why hasn’t Hashem come?

But he is Coming a Second Time like the *Lion of Judah* and every knee shall bow and tounge confess Jesus is LORD! even you blaster.... Happy Independence Day!
Tara


353 posted on 07/04/2010 3:25:24 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: presently no screen name

I agree that sitting in a pew is not evidence...please read the post that I was originally responding to. The statement was made something about Jesus appearing to the rabbi as Jesus did with Paul...for Paul we have evidence of a change in the person, I have not seen evidence presented from the people that knew the rabbi about any such change.

Also Christians do know that Jesus is the Messiah, the unbeliever does not. So what is the importance of this note if it is true? Somebody posted that it would be important in reaching the Jews...because it would be a sign to them. Teach Jesus as the Messiah from Scripture and let the Holy Spirit bring them to Jesus (I agree with you)...there is then no need for the sign.

Again, I am saying that some have said that this would be important in reaching unbelievers and that I disagree with. If they will not believe God’s Word then they will not believe this note that cannot be validated. That is what I was trying to relate in my post.


354 posted on 07/04/2010 3:26:21 PM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

AMEN

That is why we need to base our faith on God’s Word instead of what we want to here (fables). Because the time will come when “if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect”.

God bless and Be Ready


355 posted on 07/04/2010 3:33:10 PM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: wmfights; Quix; GiovannaNicoletta
How about the 7 million Jews killed during the holocaust, was Satan bound then?

Something happened in WWII... I have yet to satisfactorily hook it up to prophecy, but it was something, to be sure. It's footprint is just too big and defined.

356 posted on 07/04/2010 3:36:12 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: blasater1960

MANY MANY JEWS HAVE COME TO KNOW JESUS...

1506 - Alfonso de Zamora - Rabbi
Alfonso de Zamora, a Rabbi, publicly declared his faith in Messiah Jesus in 1506. Working with Paul Nunez Coronel and Alfonso d’Alcala, two other Jewish believers, he uses his knowledge of Hebrew, Aramaic, Chaldean, and other languages to help develop a six-volume multilingual work known as the Polyglot Bible. He also writes a Hebrew grammar, a Hebrew dictionary, a dictionary of the Old Testament, and a treatise on Hebrew spelling.

1530 - Immanuel Tremellius - Hebrew Scholar, University Professor
Immanuel Tremellius came to faith in Messiah around 1530 and became Professor of Hebrew at Cambridge University in 1548. He later becomes Professor of Theology at Heidelberg, where he produces a Latin Old Testament that is published in Frankfurt in the 1570s and London in 1580. With Theodore Beza’s Latin New Testament attached to it, the Tremellius Bible is the Protestant contender against the Vulgate issued by Pope Sixtus V in a Reformation vs. Counter Reformation battle of Latin bibles.

1546 - Johannes Isaac - Hebrew Scholar, University Professor
Johannes Isaac came to faith in 1546. He became a professor of Hebrew at the University of Cologne.

1621 - Malachi ben Samuel - Polish Rabbi
Malachi ben Samuel, a Polish Rabbi, comes to faith in Messiah around 1621, several years after being impressed by a Yiddish translation of the New Testament. He is particularly surprised that marginal references to the Hebrew Scriptures are not distorted, as he had been told they would be. He writes, “My heart became full of doubt. No man can believe the pain and ache that assailed my heart. I had no rest day or night.... What should I do? To whom should I speak of these things?” He finally feels he has no choice but to believe.

1625 - Giovanni Jonas - Hebrew Scholar
Giovanni Jonas came to faith in Poland in 1625 and, working as a librarian, writes a Hebrew translation of the Gospels and a Hebrew-Chaldee lexicon.

1656 - Esdras Edzard - Hebrew Scholar
Esdras Edzard, who grew up studying Hebrew and the Talmud, and then studied in Leipzig, Wittenberg, and Basel, earns a doctorate and begins working among the Jews of Hamburg. He provides free instruction in Hebrew, helps the poor, and explains faith in Messiah to all. From 1671 to 1708 Edzard leads 148 Jewish people to faith. He emphasizes further study for those coming to faith, and almost all of those who joined him continue in faith.

1709 - John Xeres - Talmudic Scholar
John Xeres counteracts the slur that Jewish believers in Jesus are not well-educated in Judaism by emphasizing his Talmudic studies. Others on the list of learned Jewish believers include Ludwig Compiegne de Veil, Friedrich Albrecht Augusti, Paul Weidner, Julius Conrad Otto, Johann Adam Gottfried, and more.

1722 - Rabbi Judah Monis
Rabbi Judah Monis, after becoming the first Jewish individual to receive a college degree in America (M.A., Harvard, 1720), publicly embraces faith in Messiah Jesus. In 1735 he publishes a Hebrew grammar, the first to be published in America.

1758 - Seelig Bunzlau - German Rabbi
Seelig Bunzlau, a revered German Rabbi, announces from the pulpit of his synagogue that he is has placed his faith in Messiah.

1781 - William Herschel - Scientist & Astronomer
William Herschel, a Jewish believer, using a telescope he designed and constructed, discovers the planet Uranus. Herschel also fixes the positions of 2,500 nebulas, of which only 103 had previously been known. He infers the existence of binary stars, and then identifies 209 such pairs of stars that revolve around a common center. He discovers the infrared rays of the sun, defines and explains the composition of the Milky Way, and makes many other discoveries.

1782 - Joseph von Sonnenfels, Distinguished Jurist
Joseph von Sonnenfels, a distinguished jurist in Vienna and a Jewish believer, lays out the principles for the Edict of Toleration regarding Jews that Austrian emperor Joseph II announces.

1809 - Joseph Samuel Frey - Hebrew teacher and Cantor
Joseph Samuel Frey, a Hebrew teacher and cantor, organizes the London Society for Promoting Christianity Among the Jews. He later comes to the United States and continues efforts to organize Jewish believers.

1810 - August Neander (David Mendel) - Professor at the University of Berlin
August Neander (born David Mendel) becomes Professor of Church History at the University of Berlin, where the influential Friedrich Schleiermacher also teaches. One observer comments on the “sad and singular sight” of “Schleiermacher, a Christian by birth, inculcating in one lecture room with all the power of his mighty genius, those doctrines which led to the denial of the evangelical attributes of Jesus.” Meanwhile, in another room “Neander, by birth a Jew, preached and taught salvation through faith in Messiah the Son of God alone.” Neander writes many scholarly books, including the multivolume General History of the Christian Religion and Church. Before his death in 1850 he goes blind, but dictates notes for the last section of his church history on the last day of his life.

1822 - Isaac da Costa - Author & Defender of European Jewry
Isaac da Costa, his wife Hannah, and his friend Abraham Capadose come to faith in Holland. Da Costa becomes Holland’s leading poet and Capadose a leading physician; da Costa’s book, Accusations Against the Spirit of the Century, attacks the rationalistic materialism that is coming to dominate Holland and demands that Messiah again become the center of national life. Da Costa writes often of Messiah and also his Jewish heritage: “In the midst of the contempt and dislike of the world for the name of Jew I have ever gloried in it.” The Jewish Encyclopedia comments about him, “His character, no less than his genius, was respected by his contemporaries. To the end of his life he felt only reverence and love for his former co-religionists.”

1825 - Rabbi Michael Solomon Alexander - English Rabbi
Rabbi Michael Solomon Alexander comes to faith Messiah in 1825 after concluding that Rabbis had concealed the truth about Jesus; seven years later he becomes Professor of Hebrew and Rabbinical Literature at King’s College, London. His name comes first on the long list of those who signed a “protest of Jewish Christians in England” against the false accusation that Jews used Christian blood in Passover rites. When the British Parliament endows the position of Bishop of Jerusalem, the appointment goes to Alexander; in Jerusalem, he opens both an institution for the training of Jewish believers and a hospital for the sick Jewish residents of Jerusalem.

1826 - Felix Mendelssohn - Composer
Felix Mendelssohn, Jewish believer and grandson of the great Jewish philosopher Moses Mendelssohn, writes his overture to A Midsummer Night’s Dream. He brings new public attention to Bach’s music, composes the Elijah and St. Paul oratorios, and arouses the resentment of anti-Semites by helping Jewish musicians. He composes the music to “Hark the Herald Angels Sing” and harmonizes “Now Thank We All Our God,” among other hymns.

1844 - Joachim Raphael Biesenthal -
Joachim Raphael Biesenthal, a Jewish believer, begins 37 years of ministry within the Jewish communities of Germany. He uses the knowledge gained in Talmudic academies and while earning a doctorate at the University of Berlin to write commentaries on many New Testament books as well as a History of the Christian Church that shows the strong Jewishness of the early church.

1847 - Carl Paul Caspari - University Professor
Carl Paul Caspari, a Jewish believer, begins teaching at the University of Christiana in Norway. He writes commentaries on many Old Testament books and, at a time when Christianity is under attack, stands for orthodoxy and becomes known over the following 45 years as “the teacher of all Scandinavia.” He also writes an Arabic grammar that becomes a standard work.

1859 - David Gustav Hertz - Advocate for Judicial Reform
Lawyer David Gustav Hertz becomes a municipal official in Hamburg, Germany, and holds various positions over the next 45 years. He works for reform of the justice and prison systems at a time when doing so put an individual at risk from those with a vested interest in corruption.

1863 - Daniel Landsmann, a Jerusalem Talmudic Scholar
Daniel Landsmann, a Jerusalem Talmudic scholar came to faith in 1863, is almost killed-but by his own people, angered that someone well educated in Jewish tradition should become a believer in Jesus. His faith in Messiah began when he finds upon the street a page in Hebrew torn from a book. He loves what he reads, and when he later finds out that it is the Sermon on the Mount, he thinks differently about Jesus than he did before. When he tells all that he believes Jesus is the Messiah, his wife leaves him, one fanatical group puts spikes in his hands, and another tries to bury him alive. He finally moves to New York City and, with a wealth of Talmudic knowledge and a humble spirit, moves many to consider Messiah.

1868 - Benjamin Disraeli, Prime Minister of England
Benjamin Disraeli, a Jewish believer, becomes Britain’s prime minister. Disraeli, both the Conservative Party leader and the author of many popular books, emphasizes Christianity’s dependence on Judaism: “In all church discussions we are apt to forget the second Testament is avowedly only a supplement. Jesus came to complete the ‘law and the prophets.’ Christianity is completed Judaism, or it is nothing. Christianity is incomprehensible without Judaism, as Judaism is incomplete without Christianity.” He hopes that Jews “will accept the whole of their religion instead of only the half of it, as they gradually grow more familiar with the true history and character of the New Testament.” Throughout his career in Parliament he very publicly attacks those with anti-Semitic views, often with biting wit, and shows himself to be a proud Zionist. In a statement to Queen Victoria, he said: “Your Majesty, I am the blank page between the Old Testament and the New”.

1870 - Isaac Salkinson, Hebrew Scholar
Isaac Salkinson of Vienna translates Milton’s Paradise Lost into Hebrew. Over the next 15 years he translates into Hebrew Othello, Romeo and Juliet, and then the Greek New Testament.

1877 - Joseph Schereschewsky, Scholar & Translator
Joseph Schereschewsky, a former Lithuanian Rabbinical student, is consecrated as the Episcopal Church’s Bishop of Shanghai. In 1879 he lays the cornerstone for St. John’s College, the first Protestant college in China. Regarded by the Academic community as one of the most learned Orientalists in the world, he also translates the Bible into both Mandarin and colloquial Chinese and stays at his translation tasks even though partially paralyzed and unable to speak.

1883 - Alfred Edersheim, Biblical Scholar
Alfred Edersheim finishes seven years of writing The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah, which becomes the standard scholarly work in English for the next 100 years. Born in Austria, he serves as a minister in Scotland and a lecturer at Oxford. Four other major books of Biblical scholarship would flow from his pen.

1885 - Joseph Rabinowitz, Talmudic scholar and Lawyer
Talmudic scholar and lawyer Joseph Rabinowitz comes to faith in Messiah Jesus in 1885, and, through writings and lectures, begins influencing Russian Jews to become “Sons of the New Covenant.” He draws up a list of 12 articles of faith, patterned after Maimonides’s 13 principles, but proclaiming Jesus as the Messiah. He forms one of the early Messianic Congregations.

1892 - Leopold Cohn, Hungarian Rabbi
Leopold Cohn, a Hungarian Rabbi, comes to believe that Jesus is the Messiah. An outraged Jewish community forces him to flee, so he studies at divinity school in Scotland, emigrates to the United States with his family, and begins to hold meetings in a heavily Jewish section of Brooklyn that demonstrate that Jesus is the Messiah. Later he opens a medical clinic and a kosher food kitchen, and delivers free coal to the Jewish poor. The outreach he started grew into “Chosen People Ministries”, an International organization.

1892 - Louis Meyer, Doctor & Surgeon
Louis Meyer, a Jewish Doctor & Surgeon and immigrant to Cincinnati from Germany, come to faith. He goes on to receive a degree from an evangelical Seminary in Pittsburgh. His scholarship is recognized and he becomes one of the editors of The Fundamentals, the 90 essays produced between 1910 and 1915 to explain the difference between Biblical faith and Liberal Protestantism.

1894 - David Ginsburg, Hebrew Scholar
An emigrant from Poland to England, David Ginsburg, publishes a scholarly work including (in 1894) The Massoretic-Critical Text of the Hebrew Bible.

1904 - Max Wertheimer, Reform Rabbi
Max Wertheimer, after serving for 10 years as a Rabbi in Dayton, Ohio, publicly declares his faith in Messiah. He then goes to an evangelical seminary, eventually becoming a Pastor. He recalls, “I had tried to get some tangible comfort out of the Talmud, Mishnah, and Rabbinical doctrines, but found none that satisfied my soul’s hunger and longings.” In studying the New Testament, though, he sees that the Christian doctrines he had derided as illogical and un-Jewish are sensible and truly Jewish.

1909 - Isaac Lichtenstein, Chief Rabbi of Hungary
In 1909, Isaac Lichtenstein dies, leaving writings explaining how he read a copy of the New Testament after 40 years of work as a Rabbi in Hungary and was impressed by “the greatness, power, and glory of this book, formerly a sealed book to me. All seemed so new to me and yet it did me good like the sight of an old friend.... I had thought the New Testament to be impure, a source of pride, of selfishness, of hatred, and of the worst kind of violence, but as I opened it I felt myself peculiarly and wonderfully taken possession of. A sudden glory, a light flashed through my soul. I looked for thorns and found roses; I discovered pearls instead of pebbles; instead of hatred, love; instead of vengeance, forgiveness; instead of bondage, freedom.”

A letter to his son, a doctor, reports that “From every line in the New Testament, from every word, the Jewish spirit streamed forth light, life, power, endurance, faith, hope, love, charity, limitless and indestructible faith in God.” Others, hating the idea of a long-term Rabbi turning “renegade,” attack Lichtenstein. His reply: “I have been an honored Rabbi for the space of 40 years, and now, in my old age, I am treated by my friends as one possessed by an evil spirit, and by my enemies as an outcast. I am become a butt of mockers, who point the finger at me. But while I live I will stand on my tower, though I may stand there all alone. I will listen to the words of God.”

1913 - Arthur Kuldell, Messianic Jewish Leader
Arthur Kuldell convenes a gathering of Jewish believers in Pittsburgh who establish the “Hebrew Christian Alliance of America”. Kuldell explains, “The Alliance is not a lodge. It is not a society organized for the purpose of aiding its members to the exclusion of others. It is not here to defame and slander the Jew behind his back. It is an organization that breathes the spirit of Messiah. It is actuated by the tenderest love for Israel.”

1921 - Max Reich, Professor and Zionist
Max Reich, a Jewish believer and Professor of Biblical Studies combats anti-Jewish propaganda, writing that “the so-called ‘Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion’ was one of the basest forgeries ever fathered on the Jewish people. Jewish believers [in Messiah] will stand by their slandered nation at this time.... Jewish believers utterly detest the ... unscrupulous Jew-haters, who remain anonymous, bent on stirring up racial strife and religious bigotry.”

1922 - Niels Bohr, Nobel Prize for Physics
Niels Bohr wins the Nobel Prize for Physics for his work on atomic structure. In 1939 he visits the United States and spreads the news that German scientists are working on splitting the atom. The United States responds with the Manhattan Project, from which the atomic bomb emerges. In 1942 he escapes from German-occupied Denmark via a fishing boat to Sweden, and leaves there by traveling in the empty bomb rack of a British military plane. He makes it to the United States and works on the atomic bomb at Los Alamos.

1927 - Henri Bergson, winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature
Henri Bergson wins the Nobel Prize for Literature. The French philosopher wrote books including An Introduction to Metaphysics (which develops a theory of knowledge) and Creative Evolution (which concludes that Darwinian mechanisms cannot explain life’s expansiveness and creativity). During the 1920s Bergson becomes a believer in Jesus, and in his final book, The Two Sources of Morality and Religion, describes Judeo-Christian understanding as the culmination of human social evolution. In 1937 he explains that his reflections led him to faith in Jesus, “in which I see the complete fulfillment of Judaism,” but he was reluctant to do anything that would separate him from his own Jewish people, because he was foreseeing “the formidable wave of anti-Semitism which is to sweep over the world. I wanted to remain among those who tomorrow will be persecuted.”

1930 - Hans Herzl, son of Theodore Herzl (founder of modern Zionism)
Hans Herzl, son of Theodore Herzl (founder of modern Zionism), commits suicide after growing up at an Orthodox Jewish boarding school, coming to faith in Messiah, undergoing tremendous abuse, and then retreating to liberal Judaism. The Baltimore Jewish Times honestly reports that “when Herzl’s son became a convert to Christianity - not for material gain, but because he believed that if the idea of Jewish nationalism is thought to its final conclusion one can be a Christian Jew - he was read out of Jewry. The death of ... Herzl reminds us that in many instances we are ruthless fanatics.”

1930 - Haham Ephraim ben Joseph Eliakim, a Rabbi in Tiberias
The year 1930 saw the funeral of Haham Ephraim ben Joseph Eliakim, a Rabbi in Tiberias, Jewish Palestine, who after studying biblical prophecies believes that Jesus is the Messiah. Eliakim undergoes tremendous harassment from his former colleagues. He is buried in Jerusalem alongside a Christian Arab, with one reporter noting that “Jew and Arab were laid one beside the other, and Jews and Arabs were standing with bowed heads by the two open graves, touched and softened the one toward the others.”

1933 - Sir Leon Levison, Messianic Jewish Leader
Sir Leon Levison, founder and head of the International Hebrew Christian Alliance, rallies Jewish believers in 1933 to oppose Hitler. Levison states that there are 2.35 million Jews in Germany: 600,000 still identifying with Rabbinical Judaism and one and three-quarter million believers in Jesus of Jewish descent who go back to the second, third and fourth generation. Both groups, he notes, “are treated as Jews and are subject to vicious discrimination.” Jewish Christians also face discrimination from their own people: “If they apply to Jewish Relief agencies, they are told they must abandon their belief in Jesus.”

1938 - Morris Zeidman, Messianic Jewish Leader
Morris Zeidman of the “Hebrew Christian Alliance of America” appeals for help for the Jews and Jewish believers of Poland, Germany, and Austria, where “sorrow is turning into despair. They can see no hope, not a gleam of light or kindness anywhere.... We must help, if we have to sacrifice a meal a day. Surely those of us who eat three meals a day can afford to spare the price of one meal for our persecuted brethren in Central Europe.” Zeidman was also well known for his relief work among the poor in Toronto and across Canada during the Depression.
(Thanks to Ben Volman for this information)

1943 - Israel Zolli, Chief Rabbi of Rome
Israel Zolli served as Professor of Hebrew at the University of Padua from 1927 to 1938, then as Chief Rabbi of Rome. In that position he helps to save about 4,000 Roman Jews as the Nazis enter Rome. Posing as a structural engineer, he enters the Vatican and asks Pope Pius XII to protect Rome’s Jews. He offered himself as a hostage in return for the safety of the Jewish community. The pope makes churches, monasteries, convents, and the Vatican itself sanctuaries for them (though it may be argued that he did little for Jews outside Italy). Zolli publicly proclaims his faith in Messiah in 1945. He said: “No one in the world ever tried to convert me . . . (my faith) was a slow evolution, altogether internal”

Asked why he has “given up the synagogue for the church”, Zolli replies, “I have not given it up. Christianity is the completion of the synagogue, for the synagogue was a promise, and Christianity is the fulfillment of that promise”, “Once a Jew always a Jew”. When asked if he believes that Jesus is the Messiah, he says, “Yes, positively. I have believed it many years. And now I am so firmly convinced of the truth of it that I can face the whole world and defend my faith with the certainty and solidity of the mountains.”

As a result, Rabbinical Jewish leaders call him a heretic, excommunicate him, proclaim a fast of several days in atonement for his “treason,” and mourn him as one dead. Zolli responds, “When my wife and I embraced the church we lost everything we had in the world. We shall now have to look for work: and God will help us to find some” Zolli would become a writer and teacher.

1951 - Karl Stern, University Professor and Neuropsychiatrist
Karl Stern, an emigrant from Nazi Germany to Canada, a noted neuropsychiatrist and Jewish believer, publishes his autobiography, The Pillar of Fire. One of his McGill University post-war Jewish students, Bernard Nathanson, who would go on to a Medical career, recalls him as “a great teacher; a riveting, even eloquent lecturer in a language not his own, and a brilliant contrarian spewing out original and daring ideas as reliably as Old Faithful. I conceived an epic case of hero-worship.... There was something indefinably serene and certain about him.” When Nathanson reads The Pillar of Fire, he realizes that Stern “possessed a secret I had been searching for all my life, the secret of the peace of Messiah.”

1953 - Dr. Boris Kornfeld, Medical Doctor, hero of the Gulag
Dr. Boris Kornfeld, imprisoned in a Soviet concentration camp for political reasons, talks with a devout Christian and comes to believe in Messiah. In his position as Doctor of the camp, he tries to help starving prisoners by refusing to sign papers that will send them to their deaths, and he reports to the camp commandant an orderly who is stealing food from prisoners. One day he talks at length about Messiah with a patient who has just been operated on for cancer. That night the orderly has his revenge and Dr. Kornfeld is murdered, but the patient ponders his words, becomes a Christian, and eventually writes about Kornfeld and conditions in the Gulag. The patient’s name: Alexander Solzhenitsyn.

1968 - Ernest Cassutto, Holocaust Survivor, Founder of Congregation of Jewish Believers
Ernest Cassutto, of Sephardic Jewish heritage, establishes Emmanuel Hebrew Christian Congregation near Baltimore, Maryland.
Casutto was a Holocaust survivor who had lost his parents and fiance during the war. His story is now told by his children to educate believers about the lessons of the Holocaust. See: www.lightbeaconministries.com

1974 - Howard Phillips, Chairman of the U.S. Office of Economic Opportunity
Howard Phillips, former chairman of the U.S. Office of Economic Opportunity, founds the Conservative Caucus. While researching, he runs across biblical perspectives on public policy, and that leads to his coming to faith. He says, “I began to spend more time studying the Scripture, both Old and New Testament, and began to come to grips with the constantly mentioned subject of blood sacrifice as the basis for atonement for sin where God was concerned. The ultimate blood sacrifice for sin, obviously, is Jesus. I committed my life to Him as Lord and Savior”

1976 - Dr. David Block, Professor of Applied Mathematics and Astronomy
Dr. David Block, a professor of Applied Mathematics and Astronomy in South Africa, becomes a believer in Messiah. He writes, “I’d listen in shul as the Rabbis expounded how God was a personal God and how God would speak to Moses, to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob, and wonder how I fit into all of it. And by the time I entered university I became concerned over the fact that I had no assurance that God was indeed a personal God.... Where was the personality and the vibrancy of a God who could speak to David Block? If God is truly God, I reasoned, then why had he suddenly changed his character?”

A Christian colleague tells Block that a minister will be able to answer his questions; he reports, “My parents had taught me to seek answers where they may be found, and so I consented to meet with this Christian minister. [He] read to me from the New Testament book of Romans where Paul says that Yeshua (Jesus) is a stumbling block to Jewish people, but that those who would believe in Yeshua would never be ashamed. Suddenly it all became very clear to me: Yeshua had fulfilled the messianic prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures, such as where the Messiah would be born and how he was to die.... I knew that Jesus was the Messiah and is the Messiah. And I surrendered my heart and my soul to Him that day.”

He concludes, “It might seem strange to some that a scientist and a Jew could come to faith in Jesus. But faith is never a leap into the dark. It is always based on evidence. That was how my whole search for God began. I looked through my telescope at Saturn and said to myself, Isn’t there a great God out there? The logical next step was to want to meet this Designer face-to-face.”

1982 - Andrew Mark Barron, Aerospace Engineer
Aerospace engineer Andrew Mark Barron, raised in Conservative Judaism, comes to faith in Messiah. He writes that in college “I believed God existed because of the phenomenal order to the universe, yet I felt human beings were far too miniscule for His notice.” Reading the New Testament helps him to see that God “constructed us with souls that can be fed only by His own hand. Believing God cares is not intellectual suicide; believing that He doesn’t care is spiritual starvation.”

1986 - Mortimer Adler, Professor at the University of Chicago
Mortimer Adler, author of numerous books on philosophical topics, becomes a Jewish believer at age 84. A long-time professor at the University of Chicago, he pushes for a “great books” and “great ideas” curriculum and writes popular works such as How to Read a Book (1940), The Common Sense of Politics (1971), and Six Great Ideas (1981). He writes an autobiography in 1977, Philosopher at Large, but writes another 15 years later (A Second Look in the Rearview Mirror: Further Autobiographical Reflections of a Philosopher at Large) that explains his coming to faith in Jesus. “We have a logical, consistent faith,” he says. “In fact, I believe [faith in Messiah] is the only logical, consistent faith in the world.”

1990 - Bernard Nathanson, Medical Doctor
In the year 1969 Dr. Bernard Nathanson, former student of Karl Stern, a noted Neuropsychiatrist, runs the largest abortion clinic in the world, and co-founds the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Law. After being involved directly or indirectly in over 75,000 abortions (including one of his own child) and seeing his political goals achieved with the Supreme Court’s Roe vs. Wade decision that legalizes abortion nationwide, he comes to understand that he has been killing human beings. In the late 1970s he does a complete turn-around and becomes a leading pro-life advocate and produces an effective video, The Silent Scream. Contact with Christian pro-life workers gets him thinking about the source of their dedication: “They prayed, they supported and encouraged each other, they sang hymns of joy.... They prayed for the unborn babies, for the confused and pregnant women, and for the doctors and nurses in the clinic.... And I wondered: How can these people give of themselves for a constituency that is (and always will be) mute, invisible, and unable to thank them?” Around 1990 Nathanson becomes a believer in Jesus.

1993 - Jay Sekulow, Attorney
Jay Sekulow, chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice, successfully argues the Lambs Chapel case before the U.S. Supreme Court; the Court states that religious groups cannot be discriminated against in the use of public facilities made available to other groups. Sekulow appears before the Supreme Court numerous times in defense of religious freedom, and writes about his own religious liberation as he tried to understand the description of the “suffering servant” in chapter 53 of Isaiah: “I kept looking for a traditional Jewish explanation that would satisfy, but found none. The only plausible explanation seemed to be Jesus. My Christian friends were suggesting other passages for me to read, such as Daniel 9. As I read, my suspicion that Jesus might really be the Messiah was confirmed.... I’d always thought my cultural Judaism was sufficient, but in the course of studying about the Messiah who would die as a sin bearer, I realized that I needed a Messiah to do that for me.”

1997 - Lawrence Kudlow, Undersecretary of the Office of Management and Budget
Lawrence Kudlow expresses faith in Messiah after emerging from a battle with addiction. In the 1980s he served as undersecretary of US Office of Management and Budget. In 1994 The New York Times published a full-page article, “A Wall Street Star’s Agonizing Confession,” about Kudlow’s life and addiction to cocaine. He resigns from his $1-million-a-year job as chief economist at the Wall Street firm of Bear Stearns and later says, “As I hit bottom, I lost jobs, lost all income, lost friends, and very nearly lost my wife. I was willing to surrender and take it on faith that I had to change my life.” I started searching for God.” Then, “All of a sudden it clicked, that . . . Jesus died for me, too.” Kudlow is now chief economist for CNBC and a frequent writer of articles that make the science of economics understandable to readers.

2001 - Richard Wurmbrand - Prisoner of the Nazis and Communists
Richard Wurmbrand, born into a Jewish home in Europe and founder of The Voice of the Martyrs, dies at age 91. After becoming a believer in Romania in 1936 and then a pastor, Wurmbrand and his wife are arrested several times by the Nazi government. He evangelizes Russian soldiers who are prisoners of war and does the same with Russian occupation forces after August, 1944. Communist leaders imprison Wurmbrand in 1948, subject him to physical and mental torture, threaten his family, and finally imprison his wife as well. She is released in 1953 and he in 1956, but he is re-arrested in 1959 and sentenced to 25 years for preaching Scriptures that are contrary to Communist doctrine. Political pressure from Western countries leads to his release in 1964. The Wurmbrand family leaves Romania in 1965 and begins informing the world about persecution of Christians in that country and elsewhere. By the mid-1980s The Voice of the Martyrs has offices in 30 countries and is working in 80 nations where Christians are threatened


357 posted on 07/04/2010 3:37:08 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: roamer_1
I have yet to satisfactorily hook it up to prophecy, but it was something, to be sure.

It resulted in the Jews beginning their journey back to their homeland and in the birth of the nation of Israel.

It resulted in a huge fulfillment of prophecy.

358 posted on 07/04/2010 3:40:48 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: roamer_1; Quix; GiovannaNicoletta
I have yet to satisfactorily hook it up to prophecy, but it was something, to be sure.

My point was it was evil on a scale that shows satan is not bound.

359 posted on 07/04/2010 3:48:55 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
You are absolutely right.

And anyone who still thinks that Satan is bound will be getting their world rocked in a bad, bad, way in the very near future.

360 posted on 07/04/2010 3:54:03 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I hope everyone is having a happy 4th!


361 posted on 07/04/2010 4:00:03 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
It resulted in the Jews beginning their journey back to their homeland and in the birth of the nation of Israel. It resulted in a huge fulfillment of prophecy.

Oh, to be certain! And I can link 1848-'67 to prophecy quite easily.

It is the war itself. It simply rings out, and should be found in the prophecy... But I cannot get the dates to line up, and no real good candidates or episodes (without dates) raise their heads... I am missing something.

362 posted on 07/04/2010 4:25:36 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: roamer_1
Let me know when you come up with it!

I'm interested!

363 posted on 07/04/2010 4:27:44 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: wmfights; Quix; GiovannaNicoletta
My point was it was evil on a scale that shows satan is not bound.

Yes... I got the point... sorry to hit you with YASB (yet another sidebar). But then again, the whole matter of his binding is another ball of wax, and the evidence thereof, and the evidence of his loosing...

364 posted on 07/04/2010 4:30:16 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: presently no screen name
It does! ONE BIBLE - ONE GOD - ONE SAVIOR. That's something you cannot possible know - you limited yourself.

I have made the point several times that only the Five Books of Moses were written directly by G-d. Everything else in the Bible had to be canonized by a human authority (the Men of the Great Assembly canonized the Prophets and Writings; the Catholic/Orthodox Church canonized the "new testament). If you accept the canonicity of these books you should accept the authority of the canonizing body. But you apparently believe a big hand came out of the sky and gave Moses the complete Protestant bible all at once.

How do you prove the "new testament" belongs in the Bible at all? In fact, how do you know to believe in the Bible at all? It has to be authorized by an authority external to itself (G-d) or else it has no more meaning than the koran or the book of mormon.

365 posted on 07/04/2010 4:31:37 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Neqom niqmat Beney Yisra'el me'et haMidyanim; 'achar te'asef 'el-`ammeykha.)
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To: presently no screen name
There is certainly no reasoning involved. I'll give you that.

And there shouldn't be and you should know that.

No I didn't. There is no reason to believe in G-d at all; one just does so for no reason whatsoever. Thanks for clearing that up. [/sarcasm]

Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. (REASONING)

Just believe in chr*stianity for no reason whatsoever. Well, at least you're honest enough to admit there is no reason for it.

366 posted on 07/04/2010 4:36:44 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Neqom niqmat Beney Yisra'el me'et haMidyanim; 'achar te'asef 'el-`ammeykha.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; presently no screen name
How do you prove the "new testament" belongs in the Bible at all? In fact, how do you know to believe in the Bible at all? It has to be authorized by an authority external to itself (G-d) or else it has no more meaning than the koran or the book of mormon.

The proof is in the prophecy.

367 posted on 07/04/2010 4:37:36 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: roamer_1; Quix; GiovannaNicoletta
sorry to hit you with YASB (yet another sidebar).

Don't be, just be patient while I get up to speed. The more YASB's the better. I know for me I end up looking at things I hadn't thought of.

But then again, the whole matter of his binding is another ball of wax,...

That and Romans 11 convinced me I was wrong in my understanding of the end times.

368 posted on 07/04/2010 4:38:36 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: roamer_1
How do you prove the "new testament" belongs in the Bible at all? In fact, how do you know to believe in the Bible at all? It has to be authorized by an authority external to itself (G-d) or else it has no more meaning than the koran or the book of mormon.

The proof is in the prophecy.

No it isn't. If it isn't authorized by the Torah, it is illegitimate.

The only reason you believe the "new testament" fulfills prophecy is because it says it does. But what if it's wrong? How do you know the "new testament" is the word of G-d at all and thus to be believed when it claims to be a fulfillment of prophecy?

I could write a religious book and have it claim to be a fulfillment of prophecy, fcol.

369 posted on 07/04/2010 4:42:35 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Neqom niqmat Beney Yisra'el me'et haMidyanim; 'achar te'asef 'el-`ammeykha.)
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To: roamer_1

Moses and Paul both claimed to get their messages from direct revelations from God. Face to face and mouth to mouth.


370 posted on 07/04/2010 4:47:12 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: roamer_1

Well put.

Thx thx.


371 posted on 07/04/2010 4:53:00 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: wmfights
That and Romans 11 convinced me I was wrong in my understanding of the end times

Aha! Welcome, fellow traveler!

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Israel is the key - and always has been. Makes it hard to follow Replacement Theology, eh?

As to the binding of satan, when do you think that happened, and how does it tie into the fallen angels bound in Genesis?

372 posted on 07/04/2010 5:00:28 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: roamer_1

It makes Replacement Theology the doctrine of devils that it is.


373 posted on 07/04/2010 5:06:13 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Whose going to tell Obozo he isn’t the one!!!


374 posted on 07/04/2010 5:11:13 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: TaraP

WELL PUT.

THX.


375 posted on 07/04/2010 5:20:35 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: WorldviewDad

MANY puzzle pieces contributed to each one of us accepting Jesus as our Savior . . .

from Scripture to parents to aunts to uncles to grandparents to friends at school to pastors to Sunday School teachers to movies to books to TV shows to traumas to dreams to visions . . .

I’m not about to tell God Almighty what HE CANNOT USE to bring folks to Himself. Particularly those of the seed of Jacob.


376 posted on 07/04/2010 5:22:58 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: TaraP

EXCELLENT.

THX.

SAVING.


377 posted on 07/04/2010 5:25:46 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: wmfights

Preterists, REPLACEMENTARIANS et al must turn their brains off when they get to Romans 11.


378 posted on 07/04/2010 5:30:01 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

NOPE.

Not merely because the NT says so.

We can read unrubberized histories.

With The Old Testament.

That’s sufficient.


379 posted on 07/04/2010 5:30:54 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
No it isn't. If it isn't authorized by the Torah, it is illegitimate.

Then is it your opinion that the prophets of Israel are illegitimate?

The whole of the Hebrew Bible is not authorized by the Torah.

The only reason you believe the "new testament" fulfills prophecy is because it says it does. But what if it's wrong?

To the contrary. I spend more time in the Old Covenant than I do in the New. It is the first Covenant prophets that i refer to.

How do you know the "new testament" is the word of G-d at all and thus to be believed when it claims to be a fulfillment of prophecy?

each book, any book of any kind is not made holy by some canonization process, be it Judaic or Christian. God's "signature" is on His scribes, and on His prophets. Word is entwined with Prophecy, and each bears witness to the other.

From there, it must be built upon the foundation of the Torah, and the Prophets. New cannot disregard old, or make it null.

This method defies the Koran and the Book of Mormon, but it does not deny the New Covenant. At least, not in my opinion.

380 posted on 07/04/2010 5:49:18 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
It makes Replacement Theology the doctrine of devils that it is.

AMEN.

381 posted on 07/04/2010 5:51:26 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; roamer_1

Because the LORD says to test everything, we are not led by *Blind Faith* the Bible in itself is *prophetic*. Why do you think so many people today believe we are the *Last Generation* to witness prophetic events? it is because of what’s in the Holy Bible....


382 posted on 07/04/2010 5:58:35 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Quix

I thought it was worth saving as well Quix!

Happy Independence Day!


383 posted on 07/04/2010 6:03:28 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

My Dearest TaraP- You crack me up. I know your heart is good. Shalom


384 posted on 07/04/2010 6:06:27 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: Quix
Not merely because the NT says so.

We can read unrubberized histories.

With The Old Testament.

That’s sufficient.

But you still assume the "new testament" from the outset. If you did not, the "old testament" would not predict it at all.

385 posted on 07/04/2010 6:15:47 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Neqom niqmat Beney Yisra'el me'et haMidyanim; 'achar te'asef 'el-`ammeykha.)
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To: roamer_1
Then is it your opinion that the prophets of Israel are illegitimate?

The whole of the Hebrew Bible is not authorized by the Torah.

You are quite correct to recognize the distinction between the Torah (the direct, unmediated Word of G-d) and all other scriptures. However, the Torah commands one to heed prophets. However, this does not extend to a "prophet" who would end or replace the Torah (and please spare me the word games about how "J*sus fulfilled the Torah, he didn't replace it").

Everything in the Hebrew Bible other than the Torah had to be canonized by a human authority. As a matter of fact, there were many more prophets and many, many prophecies in ancient Jewish history. The ones we have in the Hebrew Bible today were canonized for all time precisely because they have not yet been fulfilled. Once their prophecies have come to pass they will still be available but no longer be necessary. Only the Torah is eternal.

each book, any book of any kind is not made holy by some canonization process, be it Judaic or Christian. God's "signature" is on His scribes, and on His prophets. Word is entwined with Prophecy, and each bears witness to the other.

You are wrong! Only the Torah was directly written by G-d Himself and dictated letter-for-letter. The Prophecies and Hagiographa were written in the words of the human authors. Plus there have always been many religious books that have claimed to be scripture. Do you know why decides what is and what is not Scripture? The duly-constituted religious authority, that is who. I accept the Na"KH because I accept the authority, under the Torah, of the Men of the Great Assembly who compiled and canonized it.

New cannot disregard old, or make it null.

Then we don't need a "new" testament or a chr*stian religion. If you accept them then you must accept the religious authority of the ecclesiastical bodies that canonized them.

386 posted on 07/04/2010 6:24:00 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Neqom niqmat Beney Yisra'el me'et haMidyanim; 'achar te'asef 'el-`ammeykha.)
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Because the LORD says to test everything, we are not led by *Blind Faith* the Bible in itself is *prophetic*. Why do you think so many people today believe we are the *Last Generation* to witness prophetic events? it is because of what’s in the Holy Bible....

I agree with you.

My argument with Roamer_1 and the other people on this thread is where the Biblical canon ends. I simply say it ended before the "new testament" was written and added to it. And it had to be added. It wasn't there originally. How would they feel if someone wanted to add more books to it today?

387 posted on 07/04/2010 6:26:44 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Neqom niqmat Beney Yisra'el me'et haMidyanim; 'achar te'asef 'el-`ammeykha.)
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To: TaraP
"First off many Orthodox Jews, Hasisdic *Do not want* Jesus to be the Messiah..WHY because they don’t like the Messiah that he is... They want a Messiah they feel fits into their mold..."

The messiah that he is? He can not be the messiah until he actually fullfills the tasks of messiah. Is there world peace? Is there universal knowlege of G-d? Has the Temple been rebuilt? Have sacrifices returned? Has the lion lay down with the lamb? NO!

Their mold? Messiah is not a hybrid god-man that you worship by eating his flesh and drinking his blood. Have you seen that in the OT somewhere? That messiah is a roman-greek god, not the G-d of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

WHY hasn’t he came yet!

Who Jesus? He said that generation would not pass away until his return....Well, it has been 2000 years. No Return. Paul said those alive then would see it..nope.

That is false prophesy.

Adonai is Yeshua Ha Mashiaich

Blasphemy! Whoa!!

" with all the suffering, war, mayhem, heartache and especially the pain the Jewish people have to endure in a world growing more hostile towards them, why hasn’t Hashem come?"

He will and this will be your words.

19O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

And many peoples shall come, and say: "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; that he may teach us his ways and that we may walk in his paths," for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. (Isaiah 2:3)

Jman is not returning...sorry

388 posted on 07/04/2010 7:10:07 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: roamer_1

INDEED. WELL PUT. THX.


389 posted on 07/04/2010 7:12:43 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: roamer_1

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


390 posted on 07/04/2010 7:13:47 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I thoroughly disagree.

Isaiah, Danial, Psalms, Zech, Ezek et al are virtually saturated with prophecy that is

about this era

regardless of what is in or absent from the NT.


391 posted on 07/04/2010 7:16:13 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

If you accept them then you must accept the religious authority of the ecclesiastical bodies that canonized them.


OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NO!

NOT any more than God had to accept the religious rulers of Israel during her many dark periods.

Human RELIGIOUS rulers tend to be chronically stuck on themselves; out of touch with God and harsh with the people. Doesn’t matter what Testament one is looking at.

God has ALWAYS asked man to face HIM, dialogue with HIM.

He asked it first through Moses and directly at the Tent of Meeting. He has ALWAYS been about RELATIONSHIP.

Man’s capacity to corrupt the process and organizations structured around the process does NOT tarnish God’s part nor God’s goals.


392 posted on 07/04/2010 7:19:40 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Hebrews 9:16,17 says "For where a testament is,there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth."

I take that to mean that Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, up TO THE POINT of Jesus Christ's death, were part of the Old Testament. IOW the New Testament actually BEGINS with the death of Christ.

393 posted on 07/04/2010 7:23:30 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

I BELIEVE

that G_D ALMIGHTY

added Psalms, Daniel et al to the Pentatuch.

And that G_D ALMIGHTY added the New Testament.

G_D ALMIGHTY can do whatever HE wants.

It happens to be HIS multiverse AND HIS EVERLASTING WORD.

I don’t believe HE WILL add to the OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT. I believe HIS PURPOSE for such a ‘vetted’ collection of Scriptures is about to be wound up—at least in this era, this multiverse.

HOWEVER, HE COULD, SHOULD HE SO CHOOSE.

AND, HE MIGHT do it through a human process of vetting, though I seriously doubt it. With Christ ruling and reigning in the Millenium, all kinds of things could occur that we have no conception of nor even fantasies about.

People often say to Pentecostals . . .

WELLLLLLLLL, IF GOD IS SPEAKING THROUGH YOU—IT’S GOD’S WORDS, YOU BELIEVE. SO YOU’RE ADDING TO SCRIPTURE!

NO. Christ taught, said tons of things not in Scripture. Moses said many things not in Scripture. Many things from God are NOT ENSCRIPTURATED, BY HIS DESIGN.

A thousand or 1500 years or 3,000 years post Armageddon . . . God only knows.


394 posted on 07/04/2010 7:26:24 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: blasater1960

It is soooooo welcome and wonderful of God,

that such assertions are sooooooooooooooooooo

THOROUGHLY WRONG!


395 posted on 07/04/2010 7:28:24 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
Never said that God could not use what ever He wants to, to bring somebody to Himself. My point is that we are making an assumption about the truth of the article with out any support evidence of what happened. I completely trust God, but He is not the one telling this story...a person is...I do not know this person(such as a parent,aunt, uncle,pastor, etc). The note itself has been brought into question as well as the code used to “decode” it. If you want to accept the store as stated with out any additional evidence, that is up to you. I am more cautious of such reports.

God bless

396 posted on 07/04/2010 7:47:30 PM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: blasater1960

:) I know you do as well!

Our bet still stands!


397 posted on 07/04/2010 7:53:26 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Quix
It is soooooo welcome and wonderful of God, that such assertions are sooooooooooooooooooo THOROUGHLY WRONG!

Care to support that with scripture?

398 posted on 07/04/2010 7:55:40 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: blasater1960

Okay....Let me ask you this....You are waiting for someone to come and be the Messiah and you don’t know who it is, but you are still waiting...Correct.....

Okay so if there is World Peace a universal knowledge of GOD, who is going to teach this *Universal Knowledge*? this man you are waiting for? how is he going to accomplish that?

Also let me ask you this...In the Garden of Eden G-D created perfection in human beings, in nature, in animals and he did not command sacrafice....Now are you saying the Same G-D who created *Perfection* in the Garden is now going to command sacrafice (Animal) when the Messiah you await is to bring world peace and perfection in the earth with Universal Knowledge of G-D? where is this written????

What is the need for continue sacrafice? A couple more food for thought questions for you...

1.Do you think this Messiah you await is going to bring more Joy to people that have already found completeness, inner joy and happiness with the Holy Spirit of Christ?

2. Is this Man you await (Messiah) going to die? or does he live forever?

3. Who is going to rule the people of the world when this Man who is Messiah you await comes? Is he going to be the ruler of all mankind? what if mankind tells him to jump off a bridge? what happens to those people?

4. Lastly Blaster- If this Man Messiah you await going to have the ability to take away Man’s Free Will? or are human beings going to lose there G-D given human will and become robot like just obeying and doing GOD’s law based on this Messiah you await?

That’s all for now Blaster!
:)


399 posted on 07/04/2010 8:14:47 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: blasater1960; Zionist Conspirator

Okay these questions I have, because after reading what some Jews say about the Messianic Age and the Jewish Messiah (Not Jesus) is going to bring to the world...
THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS....
Olam Ha-Ba: The Messianic Age
The world after the messiah comes is often referred to in Jewish literature as Olam Ha-Ba (oh-LAHM hah-BAH), the World to Come. This term can cause some confusion, because it is also used to refer to a spiritual afterlife. In English, we commonly use the term “messianic age” to refer specifically to the time of the messiah.

Olam Ha-Ba will be characterized by the peaceful co-existence of all people (Isaiah 2:4). Hatred, intolerance and war will cease to exist. Some authorities suggest that the laws of nature will change, so that predatory beasts will no longer seek prey and agriculture will bring forth supernatural abundance (Isaiah 11:6-11:9). Others, however, say that these statements are merely an allegory for peace and prosperity.
OKAY QUESTIONS NOW....
Is Paradise LOST forever? you said Animal Sacrafice needs to continue, that is not what G-D set in motion when he created human beings and a Perfected Earth.. So when does G-D give us Paradise again?

2. Peace and Prosperity?- Do we still need the use of the world’s Monetary System? what kind of Prosperity are they speaking of?

2. In the Olam Ha-Ba, the whole world will recognize the Jewish G-d as the only true G-d, and the Jewish religion as the only true religion (Isaiah 2:3; 11:10; Micah 4:2-3; Zechariah 14:9) OKAY THIS ONE..Why do we need *Religion* if we are going to be all Knowing, living without hate, envy, jealousy,war, if they are non-exsistent..Do we need constant reminders on how to behave by needing (Religion* in our life?

From what I read about the World to Come from Judaism’s Perspective, it sounds like we are still im-perfect human beings still needing to find our way to a far and distant G-D...Maybe I am reading it wrong, but that’s what it sounds like to me..


400 posted on 07/04/2010 8:59:59 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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