Prophecy! MESSIAH REVEALED! - Is He Coming Soon? - REDUX

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[GiovannaNicoletta]

Well known and admired 108 year old Rabbi reveals the Messiah's name!

[blasater1960]

"What do we do now?"

This my friend isnt a problem...it doesnt mean that Hezekiah was to be an eternal being sitting on the throne of David. It does mean that the throne of David is forever. And when Messiah comes, there will be everlasting peace etc.

[mad_as_he$$]

If you are going to insult a church at least get the name correct.

Seventh-day Adventists

[Quix]

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Giovanna, Roamer,

It appears that the folks from the Rabid
Preterist/REPLACEMENTARIAN sorts of camps are getting
.
. . . desperate.

Reporting other folks' personal convictions about Biblical truth

as abuse

is an SOMEWHAT humorous and interesting new habit to observe hereon.

. . . mildly interesting . . . to a point.

It appears yet again that . . .

some words in the rules must be extremely difficult for some such rabid REPLACEMENTARIANS et al to comprehend.

Or MAYBE

Do you think they might just define "ABUSE" as anything which annoys their thin-skinned sensibilities or anything which disagrees with their perverse twistings of Scripture and history???

Perhaps, Roamer_1, or GiovannaNicoletta, you could help me understand which of the following words the thin-skinned folks are finding hard to comprehend (from the RM's homepage):

"Thin-skinned posters will be booted from “open” threads because in the town square, they are the disrupters."

Or MAYBE it's not a comprehension problem.

PERHAPS they are beginning to get the drift--maybe on a subconscious level--that the END TIMES Dispys speak of

REALLY ARE LOOMING ON THE VERY NEAR HORIZON.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooo,

such REPLACEMENTARIANS ET AL--

ARE GETTING
INCREASINGLY
DESPERATE
TO STUFF
.
.
.
such
encroaching
realizations
back down
into
their
unconscious
.
and
out of sight,
MOSTLY
out of mind,
. . .
THEY
SIMPLY MUST
SLAVISHLY,
MINDLESSLY
TROT OUT
MORE
JUMBLED
PILES
OF THE
PERVERSELY TWISTED
UNBIBLICAL,
UNHISTORICAL,
IRRATIONAL
.
REPLACEMENTARIAN
.
Bible mangling
heretical hogwash
___
AS MUCH
AS
their
frothing fingers
can manage.

OTHERWISE, they might have to confront an extremely uncomfortable, terrifying paradigm shift . . . perhaps the

FIRST TIME

'The universe'
has ever
began
to convincingly
BEGIN
to get through their
thin skins
and
thick noggins
that they just
MIGHT BE
so
IMPERFECT
as to
at least
occasionally
BE
!WRONG!

THAT WOULD BE

A very traumatic realization.

There they are, tripping along through life normally . . . spreading black REPLACEMENTARIAN daisies wherever they go . . . smugly confident in their life-long delusions about being 110% correct in all things . . .

and suddenly

week after week, month after month

it begins to dawn on some sheltered synapses in some dark recesses of their noggins

that they not only MIGHT WELL BE

!WRONG!

for the purportedly FIRST TIME IN THEIR LIVES!

But that they might be horribly, dangerously, devastatingly !WRONG!

I can imagine pulling out all the stops to block such encroaching insights, too. What a frightful shock such must be! . . . even on an unconscious level.

I guess it's better than cowering in a corner, catatonic, for hours or days on end.

Though, not better spiritually or theologically.

I wish there were more effective ways to help such poor souls wake up and smell the looming fire and brimstone before some brimstone starts making splashes in their Mint Julips.

If you think of anything, please let me know. Perhaps we could come up with a crash-cart to administer aid to such traumatized REPLACEMENTARIANS.

[Religion Moderator]

I can and do intervene to keep posters from "making it personal."

There is nothing I can do for the posters who take things personally.

If you are uncomfortable with the "open" RF debate, then ignore open RF threads altogether and instead post to "caucus" "ecumenical" "prayer" or "devotional" threads.

[TaraP]

HOSEA 13: 6-8

When I fed them, they were satisfied; when they were satisfied, they became proud; then they forgot me. So I will come upon them like a lion, like a leopard I will lurk by the path. Like a bear robbed of her cubs, I will attack them and rip them open. Like a lion I will devour them; a wild animal will tear them apart.

This is based in the *Feminine role* (Like a bear robbed of her cubs) (FULLER MEANING)

Matthew did not impose a new meaning on Hosea’s prophecy, a meaning that the Spirit of God did not have there originally.

Matthew revealed the fuller meaning of Hosea 11:1.

In 1 Corinthians 9:9-10, Paul expands on Deuteronomy 25:4, “For it is written in the Law of Moses,’You shall not muzzle the ox while he is threshing.’ Is it about oxen that God is concerned?

This was written for us, because when the plowman plows and the thresher threshes, they ought to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest.”

In this passage Paul states categorically that the Mosaic Law regarding the welfare of oxen has an extended meaning.

When Moses wrote Deuteronomy 25:4 he was probably unaware that a principle for Christian service was “built into” this law, but there’s no question that God intended this fuller meaning

[jjotto]

a book that is accepted on its own internal authority (reasoning in a circle) and a Funny Internal Feeling

Pretty good example why God would vouchsafe a Mesorah, is it not?

[Quix]

It is a common error hereon

to assume that

TRIGGERS,

OF CREATIVE PONTIFICATING,

TRIGGERS which some of us take as a spring-board into

illustrations about

CLASSES OF THINGS,

groups of things

MUST be taken personally.

Other times, such triggers to spring-board into satire, mirth, parody, etc. are a lot more kosher hereon than telling people or groups or perspectives

that they are

white washed tombs,
vipers,
sons of satan,
the blind leading the blind.

Then there's the phenomenon of the

sound of whining, wailing and the sight of dust thrown in the air and Little Lord Faunleroy clothes being rent

can bring a lot of folks running to watch the latest

thumb-sucking self-immolations of preposterous propositions and perspectives.

Some of us seem to find such recreational diversions from the heavier aspects of the discussions to be very humorous.

Perhaps it's a kind of COLLECTORS HOBBY . . . wherein those of us given to the hobby collect

ever slightly new

permutations of thin-skinnedness.

or

new versions of absurd-to-the-max super hypocritical REPLACEMENTARIAN frothing and thrashing about.

or maybe

new types and examples of HOW TO SHOOT ONE'S SELF AND ONE'S IDEAS OBLITERATINGLY IN THE FOOT.

or perhaps

new ways to make, new examples of making REPLACEMENTARIANISM MORE outrageously laughable.

or maybe

it is collecting new examples of

REPLACEMENTARIAN BRITTLENESS-TO-THE-MAX

--kind of like a collection of antique thin smudged 2nds from the black crystal shop.

or maybe

it's kind of like collecting a new variety of

Mexican jumping beans . . .

collecting little purportedly tidy little boxes of

REPLACEMENTARIAN WHALE SNOT

. . . some of which sit there for some seconds or minutes or maybe even hours . . . and then after unknown amounts of fermentation,

SUDDENLY EXPLODE, SPEWING ALL OVER EVERYWHERE MOST HUMOROUSLY AND DRAMATICALLY.

Whatever . . . one has to garner humorous hobbies where one can in these traumatic END TIMES.

OF COURSE, those rare, super scarce more alert REPLACEMENTARIANS

JUST MIGHT

TAKE SUCH EXPERIENCES

AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN SOME LIFE SAVING HUMILITY.

However, we rarely observe that. Actually, I can't think of a single case of that.

[GiovannaNicoletta]

When one becomes comfortable, and has himself convinced that prophetic Scripture is something that men have found a way to ignore and discard and therefore there is nothing to concern oneself with, it is extremely threatening to have that comfort shattered by those who haven't bought into the delusions about Christ's return that men have created for themselves.

Go poke a sleeping bear with a stick and see what happens.

[small voice in the wilderness]

Is it still o.k. to LOL? Because sometimes I just CANNOT help it. I might even BWAHAHAHAHAHA. It's a relief valve. It keeps me from BLOWING.

And then again, sometimes I can just patiently post along. Offering scriptures. I would rather do this all the time. But there comes a time when IRONY MUST rule the occassion!

[Quix]

Considering that you ARE LIKELY a better psychologist than I am,

you must be quite right.

However, I think I’ll leave poking sleeping mamma bears to the REPLACEMENTARIANS.

That seems much more like their speed.

I should go finish my morning oblations. I’ve had too much fun collecting new absurdities and haven’t even finished half my orange juice.

[Quix]

OF COURSE TO THE MAX! LOL.

Personally, collecting REPLACEMENTARIAN ABSURDITIES

seems to frequently trigger me off into a paradoxical rant of illustrating absurdities with as much satire, mirth, contrast, etc. as I can muster.

It’s a lot more time consuming and bother than just typing

LOL.

However, I love the tear triggering guffaws that it sometimes engenders. . . . all the more so given the health benefits of laughter.

And, given the price of laughter in these increasingly trying, traumatic times, I figure even great effort to foster it is WELL WORTH IT.

[Stingray]

And yet, despite your none-to-subtle defamatory comments aimed at me, you have not once addressed the issues I raised in my posts, choosing instead to shout me down and spam “INDEED” to all your “fanboys” further moving my posts out of range of most people who might be actually interested in learning something or discussing them.

Were I a moderator here, I would have kicked you by now on the grounds of your meaningless spam posts alone!

But whether the moderator thinks your thinly veiled insults are acceptable here or not, they are certainly NOT the way a Christian should behave. By acting in the childish way you have, you’ve not only defamed me but the Lord you claim to serve.

If that’s the way you want Christ perceived, then by all means, continue with your nonsense. I’m not the one you’ll have to answer to.

[Belteshazzar]

blasater1960 wrote:
“Matt 2:15 This was to fulfill what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: ‘OUT OF EGYPT I CALLED MY SON.’ This is the text he is quoting:

Hosea 11: 1 ‘When Israel was a youth I loved him, And out of Egypt I called My son.’

It is Israel NOT Jesus. Hosea was speaking of the exodus.. Okay, I am only at chapter 2....and already Matt is thoroughly discredited.”

You have presented us with a choice, Blasater1960, to follow your exegesis of Hosea 11:1 or that of Matthew (Levi). At the risk of offending you, I must say that you make the choice easy.

That said, you have put your finger on something very important here, something that divides Christians on this very thread. And for that I thank you.

Let’s take what you said about Hosea 11:1, that it refers to Israel as a whole. I have to agree with you in this, that is clearly the plain meaning of the words in their context. What you, and others, fail to see is that Matthew understands the theology of the OT far better than we might believe. Consider, he takes a passage, a prophecy, that clearly refers to Israel as a whole and then applies it to the person of the Christ (or as you no doubt would prefer to the person who some presume to call the Christ). Let’s assume for a moment that Matthew is right in doing this, that he is in fact showing us how God Himself understands and understood Hosea’s words, words that He Himself caused Hosea to speak.

Now, let’s go back even further into the OT to see the thread Hosea was picking up. When was Israel a child? When did God call His beloved son Israel out of Egypt? Well, that is quite easy to find.

What is it that God, who had called Moses out of the burning bush to return to Egypt and lead Israel out, told Moses to say to Pharaoh? What were His very first instructions on this to Moses? The reference is Exodus 4:22-23: “Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD: “Israel is My son, My firstborn. So I say to you, let My son go that he might serve Me.”’” Here, Israel is personified as a single person, a beloved son of God, His firstborn.

So, what is Matthew doing by drawing our attention to this connection in the very early part of his gospel? Is he not showing us that this equation of a single, beloved and firstborn son with the whole people of Israel is not of his invention, but of God’s own saying? Is he not, perhaps, showing us that what is prophesied of Israel has to be understood in the light of this very equation. In other words, the Christ is not simply the Savior of Israel, and the world, but that He is one with Israel, both living and dying for Israel as Israel in Israel’s place so as to bring to fulfillment all that God has promised to Israel. In fact, is not Matthew telling us in a very simple, but truly profound, way what the titles “Son of Man,” “Son of David,” “King of Israel,” “King of the Jews,” “High Priest according to the order of Melchizedek”, and others truly mean? Is He not explaining what is the nature, the profound world-changing nature, of the promise He Himself gave regarding the woman’s Seed?

Let all think on this long and carefully. The gracious will of God has not changed one iota - nay even one jot or tittle - from the time the promise was made to the woman and man in the garden. Jesus Christ is the Seed of the woman, He is the Seed of Abraham, He is the Child the Father Almighty loved and called out of Egypt, both in the time of Moses and in the time of Herod. So that when the high priest of Israel said to the Sanhedrin, “it is expedient for us that one man should die for the people, and not that the whole nation should perish,” (John 11:50) He put his finger on something of worldwide and eternal importance, something he himself did not even realize he had done. Lest we doubt this, John adds, “Now this he did not say on his own authority; but being high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the nation, and not for the nation only, but also that He would gather together in one the children of God who were scattered abroad.” (John 11:51-52)

So, thank you, blasater1960, for putting your finger on the same thing. Let all take note.

[presently no screen name]

Just to fill you in. "YOUR posts are from the PIT OF HELL!” was my reply to post 427 and NOT to thin skinned.

Truth seems to grate on those so strongly opposed to it and need to react and look for a bandaid. Below are just a few "words from the pit" from post 427 ....and calling them such - offends the demonic.

Jesus was not perfect! He lied to the High Priests... he dishonored his mother....he should of had his throat cut and died of blood loss. ...There are many more sins... He was not a sacrifice.

Note: The demonic wasn't offended by those words but offended that I said they were from the pit of hell.

[Quix]

I GREATLY AGREE.

THX.

However, wherever the shoe fits . . . should enjoy the privilege of walking about in something authentic, for a change . . .

[Religion Moderator]

Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

[presently no screen name]

Good ‘right on’ post.

A Good Christian should call out deliberate distortions and distortions of any kind. They are all evil.

Good JOB!!

[Quix]

"Were I a moderator here,
I would have
kicked you by now . . ."
.
.
.

[Quix]

SIGH.

AYE AYE.

[SLAPPING FINGERS]