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White US Catholics move toward GOP, Hispanic Catholics toward Democrats
Catholic World News ^ | 8/19/2010

Posted on 08/19/2010 9:22:04 AM PDT by markomalley

48% of the nation’s Catholics now identify themselves as Democrats, while 43% identify themselves as Republicans, according to a survey released August 19 by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. In 2006, 52% of Catholics identified themselves as Democrats, while 39% identified themselves as Republicans. White and Hispanic Catholics have become increasingly divided on party affiliation. In 2006, 49% of white Catholics and 63% of Hispanic Catholics called themselves Democrats, while 43% of white Catholics and 30% of Hispanic Catholics called themselves Republicans. Four years later, 41% of white Catholics and 71% of Hispanic Catholics call themselves Democrats, while 50% of white Catholics and 22% of Hispanic Catholics called themselves Republicans Among the survey’s other findings (survey results for Catholics did not differ greatly from Americans overall):



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1 posted on 08/19/2010 9:22:06 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
"48% of the nation’s Catholics now identify themselves as Democrats..."

Democrat Party - AKA the Abortion Party - how the heck do "they" keep voting for pro-abort legislators?

2 posted on 08/19/2010 9:27:17 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: markomalley

Or, to be more clear, people who define themselves by their ethnicity tend toward the DNC. People who don’t, lean GOP.


3 posted on 08/19/2010 9:28:27 AM PDT by marron
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To: markomalley
I think the -3 for the Hispanic Catholic is more about how the Rats have framed the immigration debate then anything else.

The +6 for Catholic overall is really good because it is a key swing vote.

The +13 for Jewish is also a good sign.

4 posted on 08/19/2010 9:32:00 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Psalm 73
Democrat Party - AKA the Abortion Party - how the heck do "they" keep voting for pro-abort legislators?

I, for one, don't understand it. But I am glad that it is moving in the right direction (no pun intended).

5 posted on 08/19/2010 9:32:07 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: marron

“Or, to be more clear, people who define themselves by their ethnicity tend toward the DNC. People who don’t, lean GOP.”

In other words, leftists have racial hangups, and cling to race-baiters, like sniveling neurotics cling to their shrinks. The Democratic Party makes them feel comfortable with their ignorance.


6 posted on 08/19/2010 9:50:01 AM PDT by pallis
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To: markomalley
That Obama found it advantageous to attend a church and be baptized when he was a community organizer in Chicago doesn't tell us anything about his actual beliefs.

Karl Marx, Joseph Stalin, and Adolf Hitler were all baptized...all were anti-religion later when their beliefs mattered.

7 posted on 08/19/2010 10:10:06 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: markomalley

Is there some reason they didn’t sample Protestant Hispanics? Republicans in a good year pick up around 40% of the Hispanic vote nationally. My sense is that the split among Hispanics of different denominations would be similiar to the split among white protestants/evangelicals vs white catholics.


8 posted on 08/19/2010 10:13:14 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (?)
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To: Soul Seeker

This poll is from 2008-2010, ie, worthless.

What is interesting is that the most likely denomination to vote Democrat are mainline protestants.

So the prots need to clear out their own garage rather then complain about us Catholics.


9 posted on 08/19/2010 10:20:51 AM PDT by BenKenobi (We cannot do everything at once, but we can do something at once. -Silent Cal)
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To: BenKenobi; markomalley
What is interesting is that the most likely denomination to vote Democrat are mainline protestants.

Good point.

You'll find committed catholics and evangelicals on the same "right" side of all the key issues of the day, and you'll find secular catholics and "mainline" protestants on the wrong side of those very same issues.

That would tell me that, despite the noisy debates we get into here at FR, a committed believing catholic and a committed believing evangelical have much more in common with one another than either do with their secular barely-believing "co-religionists" lining up on the other side.

10 posted on 08/19/2010 10:44:06 AM PDT by marron
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To: Soul Seeker
Google Rev. Samuel Rodriguez. He represents Protestant Hispanics.

He heads an AMNESTY front group called the NHCLC & has made several extremely racist statements in the NYTimes and other outlets comparing conservatives to the KKK and David Duke.

Hispanic Protestants are unfortunately give this demagogue a voice.
11 posted on 08/19/2010 10:47:14 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: BenKenobi
"What is interesting is that the most likely denomination to vote Democrat are mainline protestants."

That is because they do not believe in absolutes. They are universalists.
12 posted on 08/19/2010 10:49:50 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: marron

Yep, exactly. Politically, nothing changed when I converted. I still have much in common with my evangelical friends. Good folks, good people.


13 posted on 08/19/2010 10:51:43 AM PDT by BenKenobi (We cannot do everything at once, but we can do something at once. -Silent Cal)
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To: Soul Seeker
Is there some reason they didn’t sample Protestant Hispanics? Republicans in a good year pick up around 40% of the Hispanic vote nationally. My sense is that the split among Hispanics of different denominations would be similiar to the split among white protestants/evangelicals vs white catholics.

Of course, you'd have to ask Pew why they reported in the way they did. I certainly don't know. But I also notice they didn't report Black Catholics.

14 posted on 08/19/2010 10:52:44 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: marron
You are so correct. That is why I don't participate in these Catholic vs protestant debates. Being a Missour Synod Lutheran, I have far more in common with many Catholics than I do with those of the ELCA. They are apostates and so are Catholic priests who cling to a progressive agenda.

In protestantdom, those churches who are so-called "mainstream" belong to the wicked National Council of Churches.

They are not even churches at all. They belong to an extremely liberal wing of the Democrat party. There is nothing good about these "churches" and anyone still clinging to the hope of reforming them are deluding yourselves.

• African Methodist Episcopal Church
• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
• Alliance of Baptists
• American Baptist Churches in the USA
• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
• Church of the Brethren
• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
• The Episcopal Church
• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
• Friends United Meeting
• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
• Hungarian Reformed Church in America
• International Council of Community Churches
• Korean Presbyterian Church in America
• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
• Mar Thoma Church
• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
• National Baptist Convention of America
• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
• Orthodox Church in America
• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
• Polish National Catholic Church of America
• Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
• Reformed Church in America
• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
• The Swedenborgian Church
• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
• United Church of Christ
• The United Methodist Church •

15 posted on 08/19/2010 11:03:26 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Soul Seeker; Minus_The_Bear
Is there some reason they didn’t sample Protestant Hispanics?

Pew has done the Hispanic Protestants, they vote to the right of the overall Catholic vote.

In 2004 They went for Bush by 56%, and in 2008 went for Obama by 52%. They are about a third of the Hispanic vote.

16 posted on 08/19/2010 2:25:30 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: BenKenobi; Minus_The_Bear
What is interesting is that the most likely denomination to vote Democrat are mainline protestants.

Actually mainline Protestants vote majority Republican and Catholics vote majority Democrat. The denomination most likely to vote Democrat are Catholics.

17 posted on 08/19/2010 2:37:40 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: markomalley

WooHoo! Good news for conservatives!


18 posted on 08/19/2010 2:44:12 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Soul Seeker

Protestant Hispanics?

That’s an oxymoron in my book. The Hispanics coming into America are Catholic. They are led away by lies of Protestatns in my opinion.


19 posted on 08/19/2010 2:45:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ansel12

We’ve had this discussion before and I wish I had kept the link. Your numbers are wrong. The final number of Catholics voting for Obortion Obama was 48 percent. Still much too high.


20 posted on 08/19/2010 2:47:08 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
We’ve had this discussion before and I wish I had kept the link. Your numbers are wrong. The final number of Catholics voting for Obortion Obama was 48 percent. Still much too high.

Salvation, you made that up and you get called on it every time.

There is no secret, newly discovered, Catholic voting number, that the world is concealing from the 2008 election history.

21 posted on 08/19/2010 3:06:00 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

I am not making it up and do not appreciate you trying to read my mind by saying I made it up. I did not.

It was actually a count posted on a major article that finally defined the Catholic vote.

As I said, still much too high for Obortion O.


22 posted on 08/19/2010 3:08:24 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ansel12

Entirely false, as this study finally shows.

Mainline protestants vote split even between Democrats/Republicans.

Catholics now vote about 10 points in favour of Republicans.


23 posted on 08/19/2010 3:12:20 PM PDT by BenKenobi (We cannot do everything at once, but we can do something at once. -Silent Cal)
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To: Salvation

Salvation we know the Catholic vote for 2008 and we know that you will not post a valid source for your wild claim.


24 posted on 08/19/2010 3:18:39 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: BenKenobi

Hello???

Did you catch the 2008 election? Obama won 54% of the Catholic vote. The majority of mainline Protestants voted for McCain.


25 posted on 08/19/2010 3:28:09 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

This poll is more recent and says otherwise.


26 posted on 08/19/2010 4:47:43 PM PDT by BenKenobi (We cannot do everything at once, but we can do something at once. -Silent Cal)
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To: BenKenobi

That is mere polling, it says nothing compared to the real voting, that is why HW Bush won reelection with 93%, right?


27 posted on 08/19/2010 5:29:20 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

You should clean your house first before complaining about ours.

I hear endlessly how Catholics are the problem, when the problem is really the liberal mainstream prots and the Catholics.

Let’s call a spade a spade.


28 posted on 08/19/2010 6:00:30 PM PDT by BenKenobi (We cannot do everything at once, but we can do something at once. -Silent Cal)
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To: BenKenobi

What I am trying to do here is to strip the blinders from the eyes of conservative Catholics so that they will take the new found awareness back to their churches and start looking at what is going on there and what can be changed to get the Catholic vote to reflect what conservative Catholics think it should be reflecting.

Conservative Catholics have a totally false image of how Catholics vote, and even here among conservative Catholics, the reaction is almost always to fight the facts, to try and cover them up, to deny them, to try and defeat the information.

I assume that, and I get the impression from some of the Jews here at FR, that many of them are battling to change the consciousness of their fellow Jews, they are fighting to penetrate the Democrat mindset among other Jews. We need more of that from conservative Catholics.

We can’t fix something until we notice that it is broke.


29 posted on 08/19/2010 6:34:01 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Psalm 73

So white Catholics are now more Republican than all Protestants are.


30 posted on 08/19/2010 6:39:19 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Soul Seeker

‘Is there some reason they didn’t sample Protestant Hispanics?’

Likely the same reason they didn’t sample black Catholics. — ????


31 posted on 08/19/2010 6:43:10 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Salvation

Protestant Hispanics?

That’s an oxymoron in my book. The Hispanics coming into America are Catholic. They are led away by lies of Protestatns in my opinion.


Did you ever consider that maybe the see the light as most Hispanics coming to America are leaving total leftist controlled hell holes that are totally controlled by Catholics ?

BTW I am Hispanic and I am not Catholic ;)


32 posted on 08/21/2010 2:08:44 AM PDT by Lera
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White US Catholics move toward GOP, Hispanic Catholics toward Democrats

Obama won the overall religious vote, 52 percent to 46 percent, reversing President George W. Bush’s 51 percent to 48 percent “values voter” victory over Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry in 2004. Obama also won the Catholic vote, persuaded young evangelical voters to choose him and began to squeeze shut the so-called “God gap” yawning between religious Democrats and Republicans during the Bush era.

How will the roughly 9.1 million evangelical Christians who voted for Obama vote in the next election? Will Obama's actions compel the 31.2 million evangelicals who didn't vote in the 2008 election to vote next time?

Obama Receives 77% of Jewish Vote-- More Than Kerry

33 posted on 08/21/2010 2:02:44 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Note the math:

31+ million evangelical voters didn’t vote
9+ million evangelical voters for Obama

versus

less than 3 million total Jewish voters

Some FReepers need to STFU.


34 posted on 08/21/2010 2:24:17 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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