Catholics and the Next America

First Things ^ | 9/17/2010 | Charles J Chaput

[wmfights]

What is the big deal about my opinion? I am nobody. Get over it.

Do you believe you're a Christian?

[caww]

For one to deny Paul they also have to deny the record contained in the Book of Acts, (which is called the Acts of the apostles), and all of early church history......

Justin Martyr quotes Paul (100-16 ad).
Polycarp quotes Paul.
Iranaeus quotes Paul over 200 times.

The list could go on and which includes many other Christian writers....but foremost the word of God speaks accurately of Paul.

Impossible to deny Paul.

[Judith Anne]

What is this, the inquisition?

[Judith Anne]

Fine. I do not deny St. Paul. I just don’t like him. And, I think he was nuts.

[boatbums]

Fine. I do not deny St. Paul. I just don’t like him. And, I think he was nuts.

1 Corinthians 15:10
But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me was not without effect. No, I worked harder than all of them—yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me. (St. Paul)

We should all be so "nuts". :o)

[1000 silverlings]

you don’t like Paul, so do you love him?

[Judith Anne]

Here we go again.

[count-your-change]

“No wonder Roman Catholics don't have faith in the word of God. They believe it was written by knuckleheads with emotional problems.”

Paul seems to be the least favorite for some reason. Oh well....

[Judith Anne]

Well the sola scriptura crowd gives plenty of examples of the word of God thrown around the forum by knuckleheads with emotional problems. So I don’t see the problem here.

And I have plenty of faith in the Word of God. Christ is the Word, St. John 1:1. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

[1000 silverlings]

Paul seems to be the least favorite for some reason. Oh well....

let us list the reasons why he might not be the favorite. Number 1: They can't understand a word he says.

[Judith Anne]

1 Corinthians 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me was not without effect. No, I worked harder than all of them—yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me. (St. Paul)

That's a good example of the kind of writing by St. Paul that I do not like.

[Judith Anne]

Oh, really?

[1000 silverlings]

yes, really but feel free to prove me wrong

[1000 silverlings]

Number 2: He never mentions Mary, and he says to not pray to angels, not even ones who appear as light.

[Judith Anne]

let us list the reasons why he might not be the favorite. Number 1: They can't understand a word he says.

yes, really but feel free to prove me wrong

I have never seen you acknowledge it when anyone has proven you wrong, so I conclude that any attempt to enter a closed mind is a waste of perfectly good electrons.

[wmfights]

What is this, the inquisition?

I only asked the question because I have never run into a Christian who thought one of the writers of our Scriptures was mentally unbalanced. The implications are pretty obvious. So I ask again do you believe you are a Christian?

[1000 silverlings]

Catholics are hard pressed to understand Paul's writings. The depth and breadth of them as he was a Hebrew scholar expounding Christianity have caused untold other volumes of his Christian theology to be written and expounded upon.

just some of the topics , the mystery of Christ, Eschatology and Christology, Christ the exalted and coming Kyrios, the essence of sin, anthropolocal or theological, the eschatological character of justification, righteousness by faith without the law, the justification of the ungodly, imputation, Christ the head of all things, the church as Pleroma, and on and on it goes.

definitely a whack job

[Judith Anne]

I’m not responsible for any limits you may have on your knowledge base. I reject whatever “implications” you may have conjectured. You are not my religious authority.

[Judith Anne]

The depth and breadth of them as he was a Hebrew scholar expounding Christianity

What is your authority for saying Paul/Saul was a Hebrew scholar?

[boatbums]

That's a good example of the kind of writing by St. Paul that I do not like.

Blame the Holy Spirit, then.