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Is the tea party movement in sync with Catholic teaching?
osv ^ | October 21, 2010

Posted on 10/22/2010 3:28:22 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 10/22/2010 3:28:24 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...

Election ping!


2 posted on 10/22/2010 3:29:13 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer
Is the tea party movement in sync with Catholic teaching?

1. Who said it had to be?

2. That's what a big tent is about... where are we supposed to go, the Democratic Party?!

3 posted on 10/22/2010 3:31:49 PM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: NYer

There is absolutely nothing “radical” about the Tea Party Movement!


4 posted on 10/22/2010 3:33:58 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: NYer

Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s, render unto God that which is God’s. This is the separation that Jefferson referred to.


5 posted on 10/22/2010 3:34:39 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: NYer

Honestly, I only skimmed it. But I did note something in there about “our duty to the poor.” That tells me it’s written from a Social Teaching standpoint that tends toward Socialism. I see it as trying to drive a wedge into the Catholic vote. If we actually supported our Catholic faith, no party would dare oppose our values... and America would live up to its founding. Our enemies know this.


6 posted on 10/22/2010 3:34:59 PM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To say I have an obligation to the poor is [to say] society has an obligation to the poor.”

Empty headed mush concluding with this howler.

7 posted on 10/22/2010 3:35:18 PM PDT by don-o ("At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum" - Mrs Don-o)
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To: NYer
The tea parties, however, have argued for rights based on liberty, not responsibility.

Our rights are based in liberty (remember that whole "life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness" thing?). With that liberty, we are called by our faith to a responsibility to our fellow man.

When our rights become based on our responsibility, we will have Communism.

8 posted on 10/22/2010 3:38:18 PM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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I must have been asleep at Mass for about 40 years. When did the Catholic Church begin teaching that governments are supposed to be our brother’s keeper? I seem to remember we as individual Catholics are to be our brother’s keepers. I do not remember reading anything in the New Testament where Jesus said, “Oh, just let the government steal from everyone it can to reward those who are in need.”

Professor Shenk and anyone else teaching this apostacy need to be excommunicated.


9 posted on 10/22/2010 3:40:14 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: pgyanke

I don’t see anyone asking this question: Is the Democrat Party in sync with Catholic teaching? I think the answer to that question is a big fat NO!


10 posted on 10/22/2010 3:41:42 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: NYer

Shneck does not understand his faith. Sirico does. Sirico was a leftist in his youth. He had an intellectually-inspired conversion and became a priest.


11 posted on 10/22/2010 3:41:59 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: don-o

To say I have an obligation the mow my lawn is to say society has an obligation to mow my lawn...Hey, I LIKE where this is going!!!


12 posted on 10/22/2010 3:42:32 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (To be determined...)
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To: NYer

Shneck does not understand his faith. Sirico does. Sirico was a leftist in his youth. He had an intellectually-inspired conversion and became a priest.


13 posted on 10/22/2010 3:42:32 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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What is the Catholic teaching on the Tea Party?

Here it is:

The Founding Fathers of the United States asserted their claim to freedom and independence on the basis of certain "self-evident" truths about the human person: truths which could be discerned in human nature, built into it by "nature’s God." Thus they meant to bring into being, not just an independent territory, but a great experiment in what George Washington called "ordered liberty": an experiment in which men and women would enjoy equality of rights and opportunities in the pursuit of happiness and in service to the common good. Reading the founding documents of the United States, one has to be impressed by the concept of freedom they enshrine: a freedom designed to enable people to fulfill their duties and responsibilities toward the family and toward the common good of the community. Their authors clearly understood that there could be no true freedom without moral responsibility and accountability, and no happiness without respect and support for the natural units or groupings through which people exist, develop, and seek the higher purposes of life in concert with others.

The American democratic experiment has been successful in many ways. Millions of people around the world look to the United States as a model in their search for freedom, dignity, and prosperity. But the continuing success of American democracy depends on the degree to which each new generation, native-born and immigrant, makes its own the moral truths on which the Founding Fathers staked the future of your Republic. Their commitment to build a free society with liberty and justice for all must be constantly renewed if the United States is to fulfill the destiny to which the Founders pledged their "lives . . . fortunes . . . and sacred honor."

John Paul II

14 posted on 10/22/2010 3:45:36 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: pgyanke
Exactly. This article is so far off, it's difficult to know where to begin.

While I am not Catholic, I do understand the actual teaching regarding so called "social justice." The neglected and almost unknown principle of subsidarity

subsidiarity [səbˌsɪdɪˈærɪtɪ]n

1. (Christianity / Roman Catholic Church) (in the Roman Catholic Church) a principle of social doctrine that all social bodies exist for the sake of the individual so that what individuals are able to do, society should not take over, and what small societies can do, larger societies should not take over

This, of course, flies in the face of the trends that date back to 1865 in America and have accelerated to warp speed in the 20th century as the centralizers win every battle they fight.

15 posted on 10/22/2010 3:46:45 PM PDT by don-o ("At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum" - Mrs Don-o)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

I ask it... as publicly as I can.


16 posted on 10/22/2010 3:48:03 PM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: NYer

many catholics we know are libs.

so, no.


17 posted on 10/22/2010 3:50:23 PM PDT by ken21 (who runs the gop?)
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To: NYer

I’m not Catholic. However, here’s an article that may help iron-out the conundrum:

Rethinking Romans by Greg A. Dixon

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22417

It’s an article from 2001 but I think it may be helpful


18 posted on 10/22/2010 3:54:14 PM PDT by old school
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According to Father Robert Sirico, president of the Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty, the radical extremists in the tea party represent only a small percentage on the fringes of the movement.

Did I miss the part where he defines "radical extremists"?

19 posted on 10/22/2010 3:55:15 PM PDT by don-o ("At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum" - Mrs Don-o)
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To: NYer

I hope not!


20 posted on 10/22/2010 3:55:22 PM PDT by rabidralph
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