Posted on 11/05/2010 6:32:25 PM PDT by Colofornian
Hey, BYU students and ex BYU students...did you know your alma mater namesake taught your god wasn's always infinite?
From the article: God, the Father was born of woman (Lds "prophet" Joseph F. Smith)
Did all you Catholics know that there's yet another Mary-like figure somewhere in the heavens who supposedly gave birth to God the Father?
From the article: "The Father is a glorified, perfected, resurrected, exalted man who worked out his salvation by obedience to the same laws..." (Lds "apostle" Bruce McConkie)
So...Mormons say the Mormon god had to save himself??? The Mormon god is a saved being, eh? And an Lds church manual praises some glorified Mom-god? Which Mormons worship this god when the one hymn in the Lds hymnal that mentions her is sung???
In sharp contradiction, the true One God -- the God of the Bible -- the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Paul has always been...
...God
...and always been holy [in no need of "salvation"]
...almighty...no need to "attain" anything!
This God acted alone in creation...no "council of gods" as Mormons claim In facts, no other true gods at all!
And this God has the triple Omnis...
...Omnipresent...not bodily limited...
...omniscient...this God has has no need to be a "student" of any previous god...
...omnipotent...this God didn't go from a 98-lb weakling to divine Charles Atlas or some Hercules as the Mormon myth implies...
All I can say is “Poppycock!”.
I think south park did a fair job on the mormons. Very nice people in my experience but I wouldn’t follow their faith.
Here are some other things Mormons believe:
Mormon theology teaches:
* God was born and raised on another planet.
* He has a harem of wives.
* They produce spirit-babies that are sent to earth; there they gain bodies and earn sainthood.
* Jesus is the brother of Lucifer.
* Jesus is the chosen/elected savior by a council of gods from other worlds.
* America is the promised land, not Israel. The holy city is Independence, Missouri, not Jerusalem. Jesus’ latter-day agenda is to return to Missouri.
* The U.S. Constitution is as sacred as the Book of Mormon. In the latter days, it will be under siege and will be saved by Mormons. Thus, we must “reclaim America” to save the Constitution and usher in a genuine age of Mormon leadership. They want to build a Mormon kingdom on earth, similar to modern day Dominionists/Kingdom Now proponents within Christianity. Founder Joseph Smith had a socialistic philosophy and wished to have a society that shared things in common.
* America’s founding fathers were “spirit babies” who created a “sacred Constitution.”
* Salvation is works-based and not through grace and faith.
And good advice re: not following Mormon leadings...I suspect we'll get a poster who will come on here advocating his Mormon links...with a canned spam message about an "anti-Mormon" gang...
ALL: But Utherdoul can't be accused of being a part of any FR "gang"...
So, ALL: Follow your gut feeling...don't talk to Lds Missionaries unless you're witnessing to them...
One of the reasons why Mitt Romney is not electable as POTUS. He will never get the support of fundamentalist Christians in the South, all of whom regard Joseph Smith as a con man and Mormons as heretics.
Independence MO is the home of the RLDS or Community of Christ as it’s now known .... so it’s interesting how the SLC Mormons claim Independence Mo as their Holy City ... SLC is Brigham Young’s version and Independence Mo is Joseph Smith, Jr. version ... who’s right??
Yes, and we’ll have a front line contender for president that believes all these heresies. Yes, and we have one that believes all these heresies leading evangelicals, Protestants, and Catholics around by the nose in huge Washington rallies.
And some think Mitt Romney and Glenn Beck are really smart people. Not in my book. Anybody so spiritually bereft as to fall for all that trash is dumb as a post...and they have no business leading this country anywhere. America needs to get back to its Christian roots.
One of the reasons why Mitt Romney is not electable as POTUS.
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...is because he is a liberal, starting with his life time PRO-ABORTION stand...
* God was born and raised on another planet.
(Yup...how do you think the script for the Superman series was inspired?)
* He has a harem of wives.
Good point...makes ya wonder why Lds church manuals only mention one goddess?
* They produce spirit-babies that are sent to earth; there they gain bodies and earn sainthood.
Makes ya wonder why Mormon leaders allows ANY exceptions for abortions given that there are supposedly spirits who've been awaiting a special-delivery body! (Mormons allow abortions for health of the mom...a wide-open exception...severely disabled children...rape...to cover up incest...if the abortionist says so...and if God says so)
* Jesus is the brother of Lucifer.
Yeah...imagine that...if Lucifer would have beaten Jesus in the Mormon pre-existence spirit-birth order, then Lucifer could have been the Mormon savior of the world!
* Salvation is works-based and not through grace and faith.
Well...salvation is indeed "trust" based for Mormons...trusting in THEMSELVES!!!
LDS Apostle Bruce R. McConkie taught:
"The Father is a glorified, perfected, resurrected, exalted man who worked out his salvation by obedience to the same laws he has given to us so that we may do the same" (A New Witness for the Articles of Faith, p. 64)
THAT is the great slap in Jesus's face that Mormonism mkaes, because it at once relegates the Cross to an aside, and raises the sin of satan to a goal of devout Mormons, to commit themselves to the sin of Cain 'and the God of Christianity can just lump it if he doesn't like it, we Mormons will work our way to worthiness and god will have to usher us into His kingdom eacuse we;ve earned it!'
Do they believe dinosaurs and men coexisted? That’s my Poppycock litmus test.
BTW, welcome to FR, n00b.
Just like Satan said to Eve.
Genesis 3: 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
One needs look no further when Joseph Smith says the exact same thing as Satan said to Eve to know where the teachings of Smith come from.
What do you make of the Ica Stones?
Hugh Hewitt claimed that Mitt Romney was one of the smartest politicians he's met. But to me there's a difference between "smartness" (IQ) and discernment -- spiritual IQ especially re: spiritual issues.
How scary that is to think that somebody who can't even define what the world religion of the Christian faith is (true-believing Mormons think Christians are "apostates") is somebody who could be so close to the White House!
I mean, what kind of confidence is that when the president has to deal with world religions at such a key level (i.e. Islam). If Romney can't get the basics of Christianity down, how would we expect him to get Islam figured out?
Yes, and we’ll have a front line contender for president that believes all these heresies. Yes, and we have one that believes all these heresies leading evangelicals, Protestants, and Catholics around by the nose in huge Washington rallies. [Sasportas]
Yes...just imagine a POTUS Scientologist influencing all those impressionable kids about Scientology...or a POTUS Hare Krishna...same thing...
One of the reasons why Mitt Romney is not electable as POTUS. He will never get the support of fundamentalist Christians in the South, all of whom regard Joseph Smith as a con man and Mormons as heretics. [Strk321]
Well put.
Exposed as a hoax, were they not?
I don’t know. I read of them more than a decade ago.
Check wikipedia. Some Peruvian farmer admitted to forging them using a drill and cow dung.
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