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Test Your Knowledge of the Book of Mormon
Mormonism Research Ministry ^

Posted on 11/14/2010 8:22:01 AM PST by Colofornian

In 1841 Joseph Smith declared that the Book of Mormon was "the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts than by any other book" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 194).

In light of such a fantastic claim, it behooves an individual to take a serious look at the precepts found in the Book of Mormon. Take a few moments and test your knowledge of what Joseph Smith also called the "most correct book of earth."

1._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that Elohim (God the Father in Mormonism) was once a mortal man and that he was not always God?

2._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that God has a body of flesh and bones?

3._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that God is married in heaven?

4._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that men can become Gods?

5._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that temple participation is necessary to become exalted?

6._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach Jesus and Lucifer are brothers?

7._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach the blood of Christ does not cleanse certain sins?

8._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that a person can lose his salvation if he is not baptized on behalf of dead relatives?

9._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say there is more than one God?

10._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say males must hold either the Aaronic or Melchizedek Priesthood?

11._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say you can't drink coffee or tea?

12._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that there are "three degrees of glory"?

13._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that the Holy Ghost is a son of God just as Jesus is a son of God?

14. ______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say that God allowed the Nephites to practice polygamy?

15._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say that if a man wishes to be saved he must have a woman by his side?

16._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say that faithful members must wear sacred undergarments that have the power to protect them?

17._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say that official church doctrine must be voted on by the general membership?

18._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say that the Black race (seed of Cain) survived the flood because the devil needed a representation on earth?

19._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it say that God is the offspring of another God who, in turn, is the offspring of still another God, etc.?

20._______ Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach that the highest level within the celestial kingdom is the "Church of the Firstborn"?

Answers

1. God a mortal man - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never says God was once a mortal. In fact, it teaches that God was always God. Take for instance Moroni 8:18. It says God is "unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity." Joseph Smith, however, taught, "We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity, I will refute that idea, and take away the veil so that you may see" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345).

2. God has a body of flesh - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never says God has a body of flesh and bones. On more than one occasion it clearly teaches that God is a God of spirit (see Alma 18:2-5, 24-28; Alma 22:9-11).

3. God is married - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never teaches God is married.

4. Men becoming Gods - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never says men can become Gods.

5. Temple participation - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never mentions mankind must participate in temple ordinances in order to become exalted.

6. Jesus and Lucifer brothers - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never teaches Jesus and Lucifer are brothers.

7. Cleansing power of Christ's blood - If you said it doesn't, you're right. Never does the Book of Mormon hint that there are sins beyond the cleansing power of Christ's blood. However, second LDS Prophet Brigham Young taught, "There is not a man or woman, who violates the covenants made with their God, that will not be required to pay the debt. The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it; and the judgments of the Almighty will come, sooner or later, and every man and woman will have to atone for breaking their covenants (Discourses of Brigham Young, p.385). Mormon Apostle Bruce McConkie wrote, "But under certain circumstances there are some serious sins for which the cleansing of Christ does not operate, and the law of God is that men must have their own blood shed to atone for their sins" (Mormon Doctrine, pg. 92).

8. Baptism for the dead - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never teaches baptism for the dead is a necessary ordinance. In fact, the Book of Mormon teaches if a person dies in his sins, the devil has sealed him his and this is the final state of the wicked (see Alma 34:34,35). However, 10th LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated, "If we wilfully neglect the salvation of our dead, then also we shall stand rejected of the Lord, because we have neglected our dead; and just so sure their blood will be required at our hands ...we cannot be saved without them" (Doctrines of Salvation 2:145,149).

9. Plurality of Gods - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never teaches there is a plurality of Gods. In fact it strongly teaches there is only one true God (see Alma 11:26-29).

10. Priesthood - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never mentions either the Aaronic or Melchizedek priesthood.

11. Can't drink coffee or tea - If you said it doesn't, you're right. This is taken from Doctrine and Covenants 89. Still, this health law never mentions coffee or tea specifically, only "hot drinks." Mormon General authority George Q. Cannon included soup in this prohibition when he said, "We must not permit them to drink liquor or hot drinks, or hot soups or to use tobacco or other articles that are injurious" (Journal of Discourses 12:223).

12. Three degrees of glory - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The celestial, terrestrial and telestial kingdoms are never mentioned in the Book of Mormon.

13. Holy Ghost is a son of God - If you said it doesn't, you're right. Only Jesus and those who embrace Christ as their Savior are given that title in the Book of Mormon. Under the heading of "Holy Ghost," The Encyclopedia of Mormonism states, "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches that the Holy Ghost is a spirit man, a spirit son of God the Father."

14. God's approval of Nephite polygamy - If you said it doesn't, you're right. Jacob 2:27 makes it clear that the Nephites were to only have one wife and no concubines.

15. Must have a woman to be saved - If you said it doesn't, you're right. However, Brigham Young taught, "No man can be perfect without the woman, so no woman can be perfect without a man to lead her. I tell you the truth as it is in the bosom of eternity. If he wishes to be saved, he cannot be saved without a woman by his side" (as quoted on page 245 of The Miracle of Forgiveness).

16. Protective Garments - If you said it doesn't, you're right. The Book of Mormon never mentions "garments of the Holy Priesthood" yet temple Mormons are told that if they do not defile them, the garment will "be a shield and a protection" to them against the power of the destroyer.

17. Doctrine to be voted on - If you said it doesn't, you're right. Never were the words of the Book of Mormon prophets sustained by the believers in the Book of Mormon in order to be considered official teaching.

18. Seed of Cain - If you said it doesn't, you're right. However, third LDS Prophet John Taylor said, "And after the flood we are told that the curse that had been pronounced upon Cain was continued through Ham's wife, as he had married a wife of that seed. And why did it pass through the flood? Because it was necessary that the devil should have a representation upon the earth as well as God" (Journal of Discourses 22:304).

19. God having a father and grandfather - If you said it doesn't, you're right. However, Joseph Smith claimed, "If Jesus Christ was the Son of God, and John discovered that God the Father of Jesus Christ had a Father, you may suppose that He had a Father also" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg.373).

20. Church of the Firstborn - If you said it doesn't, you're right. Such an expression is never used in the Book of Mormon.

How did you do?


TOPICS: Apologetics; Ministry/Outreach; Other Christian; Theology
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This article perhaps does the best job of sizing up how Lds missionaries & Mormons in general mislead people by asking them to pray about the Book of Mormon...when this book doesn't have so many of its central tenets.

That's called bait switching.

Somebody might think, "Oh, the Bible has 1 degrees of glory and 1 hell and the BoM 3 degrees of glory & a rarely occupied hell..." but it doesn't. Smith took an off-base reference from Paul to the Corinthians and expanded it from 1 to 3...but the BoM only knows heaven and hell: Ether 4:18; Hel. 14:18-19; Alma 3:26; 40:26; 41:4; 3 Nephi 27:11,17; 2 Nephi 28:21-22; Mormon 9:23.

Mosiah 16:11 and 1 Nephi 15:35 clearly says there's only 2 destinations after death...and Alma 34:32-35 adds no 2nd chance.

And, if the BoM was meant to clarify "plain and precious things" supposedly removed from the Bible...if the Bible wasn't the fulness and yet if the BoM was supposed to contain that "fulness of the everlasting gospel" -- as Doctrine & Covenants claims (20:8-9; 27:5)...and that "the fulness of the gospel HAS BEEN sent forth" (D&C 35:12,17)...then we should be able to open up this "lens" of supposed "Scripture" and find those clarifying "gospel" things, right?

Yet, when I open up my Book of Mormon, I find that the Book of Mormon tells me precisely that God IS NOT a glorified man (Mormon 9:9-11; Moroni 7:22; 8:18; 1 Nephi 10:18). It also agrees with the Bible that God is Spirit (Alma 18:26-28; 22:10; 31:15; Mosiah 13:34; 15:1-5).

The BoM also doesn't teach that there are many gods. Only one -- and that God is a tri-Being (2 Nephi 31:21; 3 Nephi 11:27,36; alma 11:26-29,44; Mormon 7:7; Ether 3:14-20)

Does the BoM show me how to become a god or goddess? (No, nowhere, not a single verse). And if you believe the testimony of the D&C about the BoM -- that it's the "fulness" of the everlasting gospel -- then you MUST believe that this idea about becoming a god or goddess is not part of the original gospel (Christian or Mormon).

Does the BoM "enlighten" us about baptism for the dead or any temple rite or work? (No) Then what "lens" does it offer us? What about physical temples at all? (No)

So, it doesn't really offer us "additional" views about God or "the Mormon gods"...
...it doesn't tell us anything about the Aaronic priesthood, let alone anything "new"...
...it doesn't tell us anything about baptism for the dead, let alone anything "new" about it...
...it doesn't tell us how to become a god, let alone anything "new" about it...
...it doesn't tell us how to eternally progress unto godhood, let alone anything "new" about it...
...it doesn't tell us anything about Heavenly Father being once a man, let alone anything "new" about that...
...it doesn't tell us about 3 degrees of glory, let alone anything "new" about that...
...it doesn't tell us about the "Word of Wisdom," let alone anything "new" about such "wisdom"...
...it doesn't tell us about "celestial marriage" and how that's requirement if you want to be a goddess, let alone anything "new" about such a strange idea...
...it doesn't tell us about the supposed import of geneology and that kind of research as "saviors of the dead," let alone anything "new" offered up on the subject...
...it doesn't tell us anything significant about "restoration" -- 'cause apparently all the folks mentioned in there either died without passing on their faith or were parents of apostates!!!
...it doesn't tell us about the authority vested in a "Quorum of 12" as some Lds leaders highlight -- 'cause 3 Nephi 12:1 says these 12 more came on board in "A.D. 34" -- and guess what? Eleven already had an apostle-disciple "job description" in Israel and there-abouts!

1 posted on 11/14/2010 8:22:07 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

The ‘list’ also shows why Joseph Smith is not a prophet called by God, because God is not the author of confusion, and the subsequent confused garble of Mormon doctrine spewed by the peepstone sexual predator of married women proves Smith was not God’s ‘handyman’. And the confusion sown by subsequent ‘living prophets’ of mormonism proves they weren’t God’s chosen handymen either! [Do I mean that as ‘Smith was not one of God’s hands’, or that ‘Smith was not someone being used by God to bring special truth to light in another testiment of’ ... etc. etc, or as Elsie has shown Smith would declare, ‘and so on and so forth’?]


2 posted on 11/14/2010 8:44:35 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Colofornian

Why is it that we have one God and countless religions?


3 posted on 11/14/2010 8:53:14 AM PST by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: OldNavyVet

Because arrogant mortal men cannot resist defining the nature of God and preaching their own righteousness.


4 posted on 11/14/2010 9:02:43 AM PST by Chuckster (Just trying to figure things out)
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To: Colofornian

Looks like a good thread for those checking out the actual and otherwise of Mormonism.

Years ago (60s/70s) the metaphysical bookstores were always well stocked with writings of a Mormon lady (or former Mormon)on various related topics; I believe she also lectured around Utah, California and surrounding states. I think I would recognize her name if someone here came up with it.

Seems to me some writers may have adopted their own ideas into their own teachings, and these are now taken to be pure Mormonism...maybe


5 posted on 11/14/2010 9:25:15 AM PST by gunnyg (WE ARE BEHIND "ENEMY WITHIN" LINES, SURROUNDED, November? Ha! ...So Few Can "grok" It.)
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To: Chuckster

When we “define” God, do we not offend God?


6 posted on 11/14/2010 9:25:33 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Colofornian

Just another cult like Islam started by a pervert that wanted his perverted Earthly ways and found feeble minded suckers to follow him because the rules of his cult gave them license to go against the Bible and act against the will of God. Nothing more; a new cult just like the last cult.


7 posted on 11/14/2010 9:34:09 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
When we “define” God, do we not offend God?

We do. However, God has defined himself for us, and when we stick to this definition, we don't.
8 posted on 11/14/2010 10:16:59 AM PST by Yet_Again
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To: OldNavyVet; Chuckster
Why is it that we have one God and countless religions?

I think it's the same answer as why we have one currency in our country and countless counterfeiters.

9 posted on 11/14/2010 11:59:47 AM PST by Colofornian ("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] phenomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
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To: gunnyg

Ah so, the lady’s name was Annalee Skarin—the recollection finally made its way into me old mind-housing-group!


10 posted on 11/14/2010 12:10:59 PM PST by gunnyg (WE ARE BEHIND "ENEMY WITHIN" LINES, SURROUNDED, November? Ha! ...So Few Can "grok" It.)
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To: Colofornian
Yes, Mormons believe many things that are not in the Book of Mormon. That should come as no surprise to anyone who is acquainted with the doctrine of continuing revelation:
9 We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God. (Articles of Faith, 9)

11 posted on 11/14/2010 12:56:44 PM PST by Logophile
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To: Colofornian

Sorry, can’t pass the test.


12 posted on 11/14/2010 1:11:43 PM PST by JaguarXKE (RINOs be gone!)
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To: Logophile; All

sshhhh you’ll mess up their Mormon-bashing party!


13 posted on 11/14/2010 1:57:50 PM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Logophile

Soory, logo, your ‘prophets’ for continuing revelation have spittled forth contradictions and confusion ... and you know it but must not oppose the liars who’ve lead your religion. But please, refrain from passint he lies on in public with such rot as claiming ‘continuing revelation from the god of mormonism who cannot get a story straight to save your souls.


14 posted on 11/14/2010 2:45:40 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Colofornian; OldNavyVet

Why is it that we have one God and countless religions?

I think it’s the same answer as why we have one currency in our country and countless counterfeiters.

****

good answer

Matt 7

13 ¶ Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


15 posted on 11/14/2010 3:02:01 PM PST by restornu
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To: Colofornian
There seems to be significant difference between what you say the Book of Mormon teaches and what the founders taught. For example, you said:

Now either Brigham Young didn't know what the Book of Mormon taught and was teaching heretical teaching - or - the LDS church agreed with Brigham Young that, even though the Book of Mormon does specifically says this, it is implied through divine revelation. In other words, either Brigham Young was a heretic or he provided additional material not found in the Book of Mormons that the church accepted.
16 posted on 11/14/2010 3:57:13 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: Logophile; MHGinTN; Paragon Defender; restornu; Godzilla
Yes, Mormons believe many things that are not in the Book of Mormon. That should come as no surprise to anyone who is acquainted with the doctrine of continuing revelation:

Well, Logo...what did you think then of this portion of my post #1:
...yet if the BoM was supposed to contain that "fulness of the everlasting gospel" -- as Doctrine & Covenants claims (20:8-9; 27:5)...and that "the fulness of the gospel HAS BEEN sent forth" (D&C 35:12,17)...then we should be able to open up this "lens" of supposed "Scripture" and find those clarifying "gospel" things, right?

IOW...what you're conceding, then (it sounds like to me) that since Smith claimed that the BoM is the "fulness of the everlasting gospel"...
...that NONE of these 20 things are "gospel relevant" as to its "fulness," eh?

I took a quick gander @ the list...seems to me that 1,4,5,7,9,12, 15 and probably 8 would be "relevant" to the Mormon "gospel," would they not?

* #1 is essentially the Mormon "gospel" teaching of eternal progression...But now you're telling me that's just secondary-level teaching and is not "gospel"?
* #4 is both eternal progression and exaltation. You mean to tell me that "exaltation" is a second-tier teaching? Not part of the Mormon "gospel?"
* #5 & #15 both relate to the prescribed Mormon way of how you earn godhood...boy, so far you're telling us that anything having to do with becoming a god doesn't have anything remotely to do with even the Mormon "true" gospel...let alone the Biblical/BoM one? Really?
* Mormons make themselves a real laughing stock when they try to tell us that heaven and its supposed "degrees" of heaven aren't relevant to the "gospel" (#12)
* Same with #7 as to which sins are cleansed -- and which ones aren't -- by Christ's blood
* And by the time we look @ #9, we're howling! Why? Well, Joseph Smith said the "first principle of the gospel was to know the character of god." If that's true with one god, isn't it true with three gods? Four gods? (Mom-god) Five gods? (Jesus' grandpa-god) More? So NOW you're claiming it's NO PRINCIPLE AT ALL to know the true character of your gods except heavenly father? Really? How do you go from a key first principle to NO principle depending upon which god you're talking about?

17 posted on 11/14/2010 5:08:57 PM PST by Colofornian ("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] phenomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
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To: restornu; OldNavyVet; Logophile; Paragon Defender; MHGinTN
I think it’s the same answer as why we have one currency in our country and countless counterfeiters. (Me)

good answer [restornu]

Resty, I was specific about this country...and what Christian faith was the originally one embraced in this country? Historic Christianity or Mormonism?
Obviously, historic Christianity starting with the pilgrims...among a few others coming through at earlier parts of history. IOW, the "original" faith currency was Christianity! Mormonism was the johnny-come-lately on the scene.

How...do we know that Mormons are schizophrenic in how they treat the founders of our country?

#1 Lots of Mormons like to speak highly of our founding fathers (some Glenn Beck, speak a mixed message on our Christian founders)
#2 Also, on the one Mormons tout the supposed Christian apostasy of our founders and ALL Americans in the late 18th century and early 19th century....
...yet most of the Mormons I know or talk with don't seemingly want to wrestle with these verses:
(a) Ephesians 3:21, where the apostle Paul prophesied God would receive glory "in the church" throughout all ages forever and ever. Well. gee. Which is it? Corrupt, creedally abominable apostates or God-glorifiers? Hmmm....
(c) Joseph Smith prophesied Sept. 22-23, 1832: the “priesthood CONTINUETH IN THE CHURCH OF GOD in ALL GENERATIONS, and is WITHOUT BEGINNING OF DAYS OR END OF YEARS. And the Lord confirmed a priesthood also upon Aaron and his seed, THROUGHOUT ALL GENERATIONS, WHICH PRIESTHOOD ALSO CONTINUETH FOREVER WITH THE PRIESTHOOD which is after the holiest order of God.” (D&C 84:17-18)

(Ya wanna explain for all of us, Resty, how a priesthood received by Mormon leaders continued IN THE CHURCH OF GOD in all generations if 1700 years of those "generations" were supposedly in "apostasy?" How could that happen "without...end of years?" Smith TWICE stressed throughout ALL generations!)

Now, match that with also prophesying in 1832 to 1832 Mormons that this “priesthood hath continued through the lineage of your fathers” (D&C 86:8) — and since almost all of the “fathers” of these 1832 Mormons were either Christian or pagan or deceased or whatever — but certainly were NOT Mormons...
...Then tell, us dear Mormons: On what grounds do you exclude the Christian Church from your dear exclusive priesthood club?
On what grounds, dear Mormons: Do you exclude us from being the true church (according to D&C 1:30)?
On what grounds, dear Mormons: Do you call us “apostates” who triggered a needy “restoration” of the gospel and the true Church?
On what grounds, dear Mormons: Did you claim that the “light of the gospel leading to salvation” was lost for a long period of time on earth?
By labeling us all as such, you openly consign the apostle Paul and Joseph Smith to the garbage bin of false prophets!

Therefore, either Mormons are internally lying/covering up that they believe Smith is a false prophet, or more likely, they believe Smith was telling the truth in D&C 84:17-18; 86:8...which means they believe that the priesthood was rec'd via "the lineage of their fathers" (86:8) and this was a continuous priesthood passed down "throughout all generations" (84:17-18).

But if this was passed down to them by a faulty generational apostate priesthood, how are they legit? If they believe these D&C passages, therefore, then they are forced to conclude the Christian church was NOT "apostate" after all pre 1830 -- and their claims that we are apostates as the Christian church is a

18 posted on 11/14/2010 5:29:00 PM PST by Colofornian ("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] phenomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
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To: Colofornian
Well, Logo...what did you think then of this portion of my post #1 . . . .

I think you have misunderstood the meaning of the word gospel.

19 posted on 11/14/2010 5:59:32 PM PST by Logophile
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To: Logophile
Ya know, you faux Christians never seem to give a clear explanation of what ‘The Gospel’ of Jesus Christ fully is, whether you believe you will receive salvation after all that you can do to earn God's Grace, or whether as is taught in the Bible that one must be born again and have the spirit of God in you to live the remainder of life being transformed by the renewing of your mind. it is telling that you people whine and sputter and accuse, yet you never seem able to explain ‘the hope that is within you’ ... maybe because His Holy Spirit is not associated with your Mormonism, eh? Hwy don't you give it a try, being fully honest, not skulking along in parserville trying to hide the heresies in your chosen religion. My Mormon retired doctor friend says “Our beliefs are not all that dissimilar.” But I spend five minutes recalling for him the rot your Mormonism founders have taught as the truth of Mormonism and he wants to change the subject with “I guess we will agree to disagree.” And my pat response is "No, you won't get any agreement from me on heretical bilge like I see at the heart of Mormonism."
20 posted on 11/14/2010 6:18:10 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Logophile; restornu; Paragon Defender; MHGinTN
I think you have misunderstood the meaning of the word gospel.

I don't think so, Logo. (Unlike Mormons who tend not to check out historic definitions of biblical concepts, but simply take their leaders at face value, I double-checked Lds.org):

The gospel is our Heavenly Father's plan of happiness. The central doctrine of the gospel is the Atonement of Jesus Christ. The Prophet Joseph Smith said, "The first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost" (Articles of Faith 1:4).
Lds.org glossary definition of 'gospel'

Now. Let's again "overlay" some of those non-existent Book of Mormon teachings to see if it fits this definition:
Lds.org says the Mormon gospel focuses on a "plan of happiness" -- what Lds writings have frequently called the "eternal plan of salvation." Certainly the "happiest" aspects Mormon writings focus in on is families living eternally forever with God.

(a) #5 & #15 supposedly detail (among other ways) how you do that. Subtract #5 and/or #15 from a Mormon's life -- say a never-married Mormon...or a non-temple Mormon...and they won't directly participate in the "happiest" aspect of heaven -- living eternally with Heavenly Father in the celestial kingdom.

(b) And do you also mean to imply that #4 -- exaltation -- has nothing to do with the Mormon "gospel?" Are you now saying that exaltation has NOTHING to do with the Mormon eternal plan of salvation that leads to supposed "happiness?"

(c) Lds.org also says: The central doctrine of the gospel is the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Are you now telling us that the non-Book of Mormon teaching of "Where in the Book of Mormon does it teach the blood of Christ does not cleanse certain sins?" has NO relevance to Christ's atonement? Really?

21 posted on 11/14/2010 7:02:45 PM PST by Colofornian ("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] phenomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
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To: Colofornian; Logophile

You remind me of the Scribes & Pharisees and all their dot and tittle!

look where it got them....


22 posted on 11/14/2010 7:23:25 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

The phrase is ‘jot and tittle’ and it is Mormonism with ‘after all that you can do to earn God’s Grace that is playing the righteous pharisaic game, Resty. Don’t you recall what your religion has taught you, that ONLY Mormons have the righteousness and therefore can be baptized for those who die without salvation so they can be saved in the afterlife? And that’s just one of the rot doctrines of your man-made religious legal system!


23 posted on 11/14/2010 7:40:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Paragon Defender
sshhhh you’ll mess up their Mormon-bashing party!


24 posted on 11/14/2010 7:50:52 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Logophile; Colofornian
I think you have misunderstood the meaning of the word gospel.

Oh really?

So what is the ‘gospel’ according to mormonism. Like all of their doctrines, nailing it to the wall is like that of jello. > Here is what joseph smith said as the “first principle” of the gospel - It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another, and that he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did;. . . .
Here, then, is eternal life--to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be Gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done before you,--namely, by going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one,--from grace to grace, from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in everlasting burnings and to sit in glory

The gospel of mormonism was also clarified by Brigham Young -

"Gospel of the Son of God that has been revealed is a plan or system of laws and ordinances, by strict obedience to which the people who inhabit this earth are assured that they may return again into the presence of the Father and the Son" (JD, 13:233)

So according to young, this gospel also is a system of rules, laws and ordinances requiring strick compliance.

Looks like Colofornian has it pretty well nailed.

25 posted on 11/14/2010 7:55:22 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

Logo is just sailing down denial with no thought to credulity.


26 posted on 11/14/2010 8:01:23 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; All

Hey FR antis LDS the game is up I found the damn the naysayers memo...

Christians who follow the Bible in its proclamation of the Gospel, according to the way we are told in those Scriptures, are duty bound to tell all the other false religions and those perpetrating false doctrines (those “doctrines of demons”) that they are pushing cult teachings and that those teachings will lead straight to hell and to eternal torment in the lake of fire.

Christianity is “exclusive” in its teachings and all other religions are “false” and deserve to be called false and heretical. They deserve to be bashed out of existence for teaching doctrines that the Bible calls “doctrines of demons” which will lead to death and eternal separation from the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

I agree with your designation of the truth of the gospel. Regardless, we are told to “speak the truth in love”, so I still think the guidelines in the OP about posting comments are important to abide by. I cannot be responsible for how someone receives the message but I CAN be sure of my motives for posting and the tone in which I speak/write.

Galatians 5:12
As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!


27 posted on 11/14/2010 8:25:55 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

You are preaching darkness in love.

You don’t like agitators? Maybe some are not agitators, but are witnesses of Jesus Christ, who disapproved of those that add to the Word.

I read Gal. 5:12.

If we are picking out of context verses to express an opinion, here’s one for you: Acts 13:10.

I’m sure you are just swell, but I’ve met really nice folks that were atheists. Obey Acts 2:38, and you’ll be literally beside yourself with joy. Don’t wait, obey and celebrate!


28 posted on 11/14/2010 8:58:38 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: restornu; MHGinTN; Logophile; Godzilla; All
You remind me of the Scribes & Pharisees and all their dot and tittle! look where it got them....

Resty, do you even KNOW the Bible verses from which you try to quote & mangle?????????????

ALL: FR, lurkers...look at what this long-time Mormon FReeper mangler of the Word does here: She takes a positive rendering of jot & tittle in Matthew 5...and tries to make it a negative (note..."jot and tittle" comes from Jesus' reference below about the smallest letter/stroke of a pen in Hebrew):

18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore ANYONE who sets aside ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE COMMANDS AND TEACHES OTHERS ACCORDINGLY will be called LEAST in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will CERTAINLY NOT enter the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:18-20)

Restornu, here this is about the ONLY time Jesus is "positive" about the Pharisees and the teachers of the law. Why? Because outwardly the Pharisees stressed God's commandments. And yet with your negative attitude, you want to turn Jesus' words here into a negative.

ELSEWHERE Jesus was heartily negative about the Pharisees? Why? Primarily because of their inward hypocrisy...which he compared to being like unwashed cups & graveyards.

Jesus knew their inward nature? (Do you pretend to know mine?) Here in post #27, you said:
I cannot be responsible for how someone receives the message but I CAN be sure of my motives for posting and the tone in which I speak/write.

Do you pretend to know my inward motives? (Doesn't the Bible say ONLY God knows us on the inside -- 1 Sam. 16:7?)

29 posted on 11/14/2010 9:15:40 PM PST by Colofornian ("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] phenomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
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To: Zuriel

Excuse me this was address about the LDS on such a lovely thread until it came to the LDS than all bets off!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2531220/posts?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2531220/replies?c=21


30 posted on 11/14/2010 9:43:07 PM PST by restornu
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To: Colofornian

Do you love to hear yourself pontificate?


31 posted on 11/14/2010 9:48:09 PM PST by restornu
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To: Zuriel

Acts 2:38,

nice verse but many here are not to keen on baptism they are more like the OSAS all you have too do is believe is their motto!


32 posted on 11/14/2010 9:54:58 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu; Zuriel; Star Traveler
Your second link, is to a June post from Star Traveler...allow me to alter Star Traveler's post...I'll keep his original words in italics...but otherwise I'll simply do some reverse engineering:

Mormons who follow the Book of Mormon and Doctrines & Covenants
in its proclamation of the prophecies of Joseph Smith, etc.,
according to the way we are told in those alleged
Scriptures, are duty bound to tell all the other apostate Christian sects and those perpetrating false creeds
(those "abominations" of the devil)
that they are pushing pagan & Babylonian
teachings and that those teachings will lead straight to damnation & outer darkness
and to spirit prison torment. Mormonism
is "exclusive" in its teachings and all other churches
are "false" and deserve to be called false and heretical as well as apostate, dead and not worth joining.
They deserve to be bashed by Joseph Smith's scorched-earth "first vision"
for teaching creeds
that the Book of Mormon & D&C
calls "abominations of the whore of Babylon"
which will lead to death and eternal separation from the church of the Lamb -- also called the Church of the Firstborn -- aka the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints...aka the Mormons.

Wanna fill us in on the big difference re: how Mormonism has been practicing the above for 180 years...vs. some FReeper activity about 175 years AFTER Mormonism started treating Christianity the way it has?

33 posted on 11/15/2010 12:12:13 AM PST by Colofornian ("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] phenomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
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To: Logophile; restornu; Paragon Defender; Godzilla; All
I think you have misunderstood the meaning of the word gospel. [Logophile]

Lds.org glossary partial definition of gospel (you know, the place Paragon Defender always tells us to go for to search for camels who are hidden in the needles of haystacks):
The central doctrine of the gospel is the Atonement of Jesus Christ.

From the article: NEVER does the Book of Mormon hint that there are sins beyond the cleansing power of Christ's blood.

Q. Doesn't the "atonement," the supposed "central doctrine of the" Mormon "gospel" have anything to do with how extensive or which sins are cleansed by his blood?

And when Brigham Young taught that certain sins would not be under "The blood of Christ" -- that His blood "will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it; and the judgments of the Almighty will come, sooner or later, and every man and woman will have to atone for breaking their covenants" ... (Discourses of Brigham Young, p.385). pray tell...why is that widely known as "blood atonement"???

Here...
...the Book of Mormon knowns of no limiting power as to which sins the atonement would cleanse....
...& Brigham taught there was such a limit, and that self-blood trumps Jesus' blood on some sins...
...But it's all related to various teachings of the atonement...
...An atonement which Lds.org says is the "central doctrine of the gospel"...
...And then you accuse me of misfiring on my definition of the Mormon "gospel"...
...Can you say...
...Disconnect???...
...Lack of intellectual integrity OR horrific apologetics' application & faulty accusation on your part...?

And then we're also supposed to do the mental gymnastics you've done and conclude that Lds "apostle" Bruce McConkie's quote from the article is also somehow "irrelevant" to the Mormon doctrine of the "atonement?" (Yes? No?)

McConkie: "But under certain circumstances there are some serious sins for which the cleansing of Christ> does not operate, and the law of God is that men must have their own blood shed to ATONE for their sins" (Mormon Doctrine, pg. 92).

So you're SERIOUSLY telling us that McConkie's use of the word "atone" here has NOTHING to do with the Lds usage of "atonement," which in turn is the central doctrine of the Mormon gospel per Lds.org?

All so that you can keep intact Smith's repeated canonized claim that the Book of Mormon contains the "fulness" of the everlasting gospel?

Tell you what? Show some intellectual integrity. Have you considered your choices here...of either telling us...
...you concede the Book of Mormon has indeed failed to convey the "fulness" of the everlasting "gospel," Mormon-style, as it pertains to a full teaching on the atonement.
...Or...you can just label before all of us that Brigham Young and Bruce McConkie were false "prophets" on at least the teaching of the atonement.

Who lied in a false "prophet" way? Joseph Smith in the D&C? Or Brigham Young & Bruce McConkie in other venues?

(Your third choice...accusing me of misdialing the number for defining the Mormon "gospel" misfired and failed to hit the mark...unless you want to accuse Paragon Defender's fave link of flunking in its definition of the Mormon "gospel")

34 posted on 11/15/2010 12:41:46 AM PST by Colofornian ("So how do LDS deal with the [Adam-God] phenomenon? WE DON'T; WE SIMPLY SET IT ASIDE" - BYU prof)
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To: Paragon Defender

shhhhhh!


35 posted on 11/15/2010 1:09:20 AM PST by Veritas01 (Veritas)
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To: OldNavyVet
Why is it that we have one God and countless religions?


36 posted on 11/15/2010 3:58:07 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Colofornian; All
Seekers of truth,

If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There's an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

They have a misguided obsession. You can witness many different tactics employed that you might find quite interesting. The straw man argument is a big favorite and is frequently preceded by cherry-picking quotes or other material. After the "quotation" the attacker will misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation.Later they will have the audacity to claim they were "only" quoting our own material.  

They will of course insist ad nauseum that they are merely using our sources and are therefore innocent of any deceptive practice. LDS persons have no issue whatsoever having our scriptures or leaders quoted as long as it is presented fairly and accurately. This is rarely (if ever) done.

Another favorite is posting scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma. They make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn't been addressed a hundred times before.

You might note a couple of other tactics used to try to antagonize is the use of disrespectful or insulting terms or language and/or pictures. That's a Christlike thing to do right? Yeah I don't think so either. It does speak volumes about them though.

Sometimes they cruise the headlines of the day seeking any story that might be twisted into making the Church look bad. Anything will do, just watch the progression of posts following it and see what I mean.

After reading their posts, I invite you to seek the truth about whatever "issue" they seem to be "revealing" or "exposing". I promise that if you do so with honest intent, the "ahah" moments you will have will be many and frequent. You will start to recognize the tactics employed to cleverly twist and attack and will likely chuckle the more you see. In actuality, there's nothing new here. It's all been addressed many times before.

The latest twist in the anti-Mormon propaganda machine is to actually go to the links provided, but then they cherry pick what they want, then quote and straw man attack that. Clever. It almost appears that they are helping you, the seeker of truth out by doing some footwork for you. Not so much. Don't be insulted, look for yourself. It's not the haystack they want you to think.

Here's a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the "issues" brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here's more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

Now you will likely notice the "you never address our points" posts pop up as usual. All after providing the answers just as you have here.

Sometimes it is claimed that these sites present a needle in a haystack. Far from it. But if you give up before you try you won't know will you?

Will you wear blinders too? Seek truth. Find out for yourself. Want to chat with someone on any topic? A few of these sites provide just that. So do your homework sincere seeker of truth. Listen and read from both "sides". Make up your own mind.

I witness to you of these truths and wish you the best, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

 


37 posted on 11/15/2010 4:00:54 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: gunnyg
Seems to me some writers may have adopted their own ideas into their own teachings, and these are now taken to be pure Mormonism...maybe

The ACTUAL writings from MORMON 'prophets' and teachers and leaders are quite sufficient to show what MORMONism is, by showing what HAS been written and what HAS been taught and what HAS been hidden.

38 posted on 11/15/2010 4:01:04 AM PST by Elsie
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To: gunnyg

Annalee Skarin (July 7, 1899 – January 17, 1988), the granddaughter of "Wild Bill" Hickman, was a popular New Age/Metaphysical author, originally raised in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). She gained fame by claiming to believe in the possibility of attaining immortality through the ardent pursuit of Christian principles, which she summarized as gratitude, praise and love.

In Mormonism, it is believed that some people such as Enoch underwent what Mormons call translation (and which is called in other religions ascension), i.e., they were taken up directly into Heaven without having to "taste of death". Mormons believe that during the Millennium, everyone will translate rather than having to die physically. Annalee Skarin claimed to have invented a meditation technique by which anyone could translate themselves directly into Heaven.

 

 

(From WIKI)


39 posted on 11/15/2010 4:27:12 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Logophile
We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God. (Articles of Faith, 9)

Yup!

We even believe stuff that goes AGAINST the Bible.

--MormonDude(I don't know WHY we stopped practicing POLYGAMY...)

40 posted on 11/15/2010 4:28:56 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Elsie; OldNavyVet
Why is it that we have one God and countless religions?

Because there is one God and a whole bunch of different people who can come up with all sorts of different things. As was said way over a thousand years ago: All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way.
41 posted on 11/15/2010 4:30:49 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Paragon Defender
sshhhh you’ll mess up their Mormon-bashing party!

Hi, Brother!

Post yer list, so folks can SEE how HATEFUL and BIGOTED these ANTIs are!

--MormonDupe(I don't know WHY JR allows them to post on FR.)

42 posted on 11/15/2010 4:31:07 AM PST by Elsie
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To: MHGinTN
 

Soory, logo, your ‘prophets’ for continuing revelation have spittled forth contradictions and confusion ...




In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6.
The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)


43 posted on 11/15/2010 4:33:10 AM PST by Elsie
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To: restornu
 

good answer

That's true; but WHY would you post BIBLE verses that are SUSPECT???
 


 
The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
 
 

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith


44 posted on 11/15/2010 4:35:24 AM PST by Elsie
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To: HarleyD
In other words, either Brigham Young was a heretic or he provided additional material not found in the Book of Mormons that the church accepted.

One would be REALLY hard pressed to find ANYTHING in the BoM that is DOCTRINE of MORMONism!

You gotta look in the OTHER 'scripture' of MORMONism. (The stuff they DON'T ask you to 'pray about'.)

45 posted on 11/15/2010 4:38:16 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Logophile
I think you have misunderstood the meaning of the word gospel.

Tell us the MORMON meaning of the word.

46 posted on 11/15/2010 4:39:21 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Elsie

ThankYa, Elsie!

Much appreciated...


47 posted on 11/15/2010 4:43:18 AM PST by gunnyg (WE ARE BEHIND "ENEMY WITHIN" LINES, SURROUNDED, November? Ha! ...So Few Can "grok" It.)
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To: restornu
You remind me of the Scribes & Pharisees and all their dot and tittle!

I'm remkinded that MORMONs have NO idea what Josepoh Smith 'learned' what he claimed was 'not true' about PRESBYTERIANism.

Didn't you used to BE one, Restornu?


http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”
 

48 posted on 11/15/2010 4:48:46 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Zuriel
 
Obey Acts 2:38, and you’ll be literally beside yourself with joy.
 
Nah; the MORMONs were COMMAND to OBEY verses 58-66.
 
THEN they'd be JOYOUS!!!!



THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded July 12, 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, as also plurality of wives. HC 5: 501–507. Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.
 
1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way that leads to eternal lives; 26–27, Law given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation made to prophets and saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
  1 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many awives and bconcubines
  2 Behold, and lo, I am the Lord thy God, and will answer thee as touching this matter.
  3 Therefore, aprepare thy heart to receive and bobey the instructions which I am about to give unto you; for all those who have this law revealed unto them must obey the same.
  4 For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an everlasting acovenant; and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye bdamned; for no one can creject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory.
  5 For all who will have a ablessing at my hands shall abide the blaw which was appointed for that blessing, and the conditions thereof, as were instituted from before the foundation of the world.
  6 And as pertaining to the new and aeverlasting covenant, it was instituted for the fulness of my bglory; and he that receiveth a fulness thereof must and shall abide the law, or he shall be damned, saith the Lord God.
  7 And verily I say unto you, that the aconditions of this law are these: All covenants, contracts, bonds, obligations, boaths, cvows, performances, connections, associations, or expectations, that are not made and entered into and dsealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, of him who is eanointed, both as well for time and for all eternity, and that too most holy, by frevelation and commandment through the medium of mine anointed, whom I have appointed on the earth to hold this gpower (and I have appointed unto my servant Joseph to hold this hpower in the last days, and there is never but one on the earth at a time on whom this power and the ikeys of this priesthood are conferred), are of no efficacy, virtue, or force in and after the resurrection from the dead; for all contracts that are not made unto this end have an end when men are dead.
  8 Behold, mine house is a house of aorder, saith the Lord God, and not a house of confusion.
  9 Will I aaccept of an offering, saith the Lord, that is not made in my name?
  10 Or will I receive at your hands that which I have not aappointed?
  11 And will I appoint unto you, saith the Lord, except it be by law, even as I and my Father aordained unto you, before the world was?
  12 I am the Lord thy God; and I give unto you this commandment—that no man shall acome unto the Father but by me or by my word, which is my law, saith the Lord.
  13 And everything that is in the world, whether it be ordained of men, by athrones, or principalities, or powers, or things of name, whatsoever they may be, that are not by me or by my word, saith the Lord, shall be thrown down, and shall bnot remain after men are dead, neither in nor after the resurrection, saith the Lord your God.
  14 For whatsoever things remain are by me; and whatsoever things are not by me shall be shaken and destroyed.
  15 Therefore, if a aman marry him a wife in the world, and he marry her not by me nor by my word, and he covenant with her so long as he is in the world and she with him, their covenant and marriage are not of force when they are dead, and when they are out of the world; therefore, they are not bound by any law when they are out of the world.
  16 Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.
  17 For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.
  18 And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.
  19 And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.
  20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.
  21 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.
  22 For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.
  23 But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.
  24 This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.
  25 aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.
  26 Verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man marry a wife according to my word, and they are sealed by the aHoly Spirit of promise, according to mine appointment, and he or she shall commit any sin or transgression of the new and everlasting covenant whatever, and all manner of blasphemies, and if they bcommit no murder wherein they shed innocent blood, yet they shall come forth in the first resurrection, and enter into their exaltation; but they shall be destroyed in the flesh, and shall be cdelivered unto the buffetings of dSatan unto the day of eredemption, saith the Lord God.
  27 The ablasphemy against the Holy Ghost, which shall bnot be cforgiven in the world nor out of the world, is in that ye commit dmurder wherein ye shed innocent blood, and assent unto my death, after ye have received my new and everlasting covenant, saith the Lord God; and he that abideth not this law can in nowise enter into my glory, but shall be edamned, saith the Lord.
  28 I am the Lord thy God, and will give unto thee the alaw of my Holy Priesthood, as was ordained by me and my Father before the world was.
  29 aAbraham received all things, whatsoever he received, by revelation and commandment, by my word, saith the Lord, and hath entered into his exaltation and sitteth upon his throne.
  30 aAbraham received promises concerning his seed, and of the fruit of his loins—from whose bloins ye are, namely, my servant Joseph—which were to continue so long as they were in the world; and as touching Abraham and his seed, out of the world they should continue; both in the world and out of the world should they continue as innumerable as the cstars; or, if ye were to count the sand upon the seashore ye could not number them.
  31 This promise is yours also, because ye are of aAbraham, and the promise was made unto Abraham; and by this law is the continuation of the works of my Father, wherein he glorifieth himself.
  32 Go ye, therefore, and do the aworks of Abraham; enter ye into my law and ye shall be saved.
  33 But if ye enter not into my law ye cannot receive the promise of my Father, which he made unto Abraham.
  34 God acommanded Abraham, and Sarah gave bHagar to Abraham to wife. And why did she do it? Because this was the law; and from Hagar sprang many people. This, therefore, was fulfilling, among other things, the promises.
  35 Was Abraham, therefore, under condemnation? Verily I say unto you, Nay; for I, the Lord, acommanded it.
  36 Abraham was acommanded to offer his son Isaac; nevertheless, it was written: Thou shalt not bkill. Abraham, however, did not refuse, and it was accounted unto him for crighteousness.
  37 Abraham received aconcubines, and they bore him children; and it was accounted unto him for righteousness, because they were given unto him, and he abode in my law; as Isaac also and bJacob did none other things than that which they were commanded; and because they did none other things than that which they were commanded, they have entered into their cexaltation, according to the promises, and sit upon thrones, and are not angels but are gods.
  38 David also received amany wives and concubines, and also Solomon and Moses my servants, as also many others of my servants, from the beginning of creation until this time; and in nothing did they sin save in those things which they received not of me.
  39 aDavid’s wives and concubines were bgiven unto him of me, by the hand of Nathan, my servant, and others of the prophets who had the ckeys of this power; and in none of these things did he dsin against me save in the case of eUriah and his wife; and, therefore he hath ffallen from his exaltation, and received his portion; and he shall not inherit them out of the world, for I ggave them unto another, saith the Lord.
  40 I am the Lord thy God, and I gave unto thee, my servant Joseph, an aappointment, and restore all things. Ask what ye will, and it shall be given unto you according to my word.
  41 And as ye have asked concerning adultery, verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man areceiveth a wife in the new and everlasting covenant, and if she be with another man, and I have not appointed unto her by the holy banointing, she hath committed cadultery and shall be destroyed.
  42 If she be not in the new and everlasting covenant, and she be with another man, she has acommitted adultery.
  43 And if her husband be with another woman, and he was under a avow, he hath broken his vow and hath committed adultery.
  44 And if she hath not committed adultery, but is innocent and hath not broken her vow, and she knoweth it, and I reveal it unto you, my servant Joseph, then shall you have power, by the power of my Holy Priesthood, to take her and agive her unto him that hath not committed badultery but hath been cfaithful; for he shall be made ruler over many.
  45 For I have conferred upon you the akeys and power of the priesthood, wherein I brestore all things, and make known unto you all things in due time.
  46 And verily, verily, I say unto you, that whatsoever you aseal on earth shall be sealed in heaven; and whatsoever you bbind on earth, in my name and by my word, saith the Lord, it shall be eternally bound in the heavens; and whosesoever sins you cremit on earth shall be remitted eternally in the heavens; and whosesoever sins you retain on earth shall be retained in heaven.
  47 And again, verily I say, whomsoever you bless I will bless, and whomsoever you curse I will acurse, saith the Lord; for I, the Lord, am thy God.
  48 And again, verily I say unto you, my servant Joseph, that whatsoever you give on earth, and to whomsoever you agive any one on earth, by my word and according to my law, it shall be visited with blessings and not cursings, and with my power, saith the Lord, and shall be without condemnation on earth and in heaven.
  49 For I am the Lord thy God, and will be awith thee even unto the bend of the world, and through all eternity; for verily I cseal upon you your dexaltation, and prepare a throne for you in the kingdom of my Father, with Abraham your efather.
  50 Behold, I have seen your asacrifices, and will forgive all your sins; I have seen your bsacrifices in obedience to that which I have told you. Go, therefore, and I make a way for your escape, as I caccepted the offering of Abraham of his son Isaac.
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.
  57 And again, I say, let not my servant Joseph put his property out of his hands, lest an enemy come and destroy him; for aSatan bseeketh to destroy; for I am the Lord thy God, and he is my servant; and behold, and lo, I am with him, as I was with Abraham, thy father, even unto his cexaltation and glory.
  58 Now, as touching the law of the apriesthood, there are many things pertaining thereunto.
  59 Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was aAaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that bsent me, and I have endowed him with the ckeys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit dsin, and I will justify him.
  60 Let no one, therefore, set on my servant Joseph; for I will justify him; for he shall do the sacrifice which I require at his hands for his transgressions, saith the Lord your God.
  61 And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood—if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse aanother, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else.
  62 And if he have aten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore is he justified.
  63 But if one or either of the ten virgins, after she is espoused, shall be with another man, she has committed adultery, and shall be destroyed; for they are given unto him to amultiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be bglorified.
  64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law.
  65 Therefore, it shall be lawful in me, if she receive not this law, for him to receive all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him, because she did not believe and administer unto him according to my word; and she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt from the law of Sarah, who administered unto Abraham according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take aHagar to wife.
  66 And now, as pertaining to this law, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will reveal more unto you, hereafter; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen.

49 posted on 11/15/2010 4:52:38 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Paragon Defender
I just KNW I could count on you, Brother!!

--MormonDube(You da MAN!)


 
HI!
 
 My screen name is Paragon Defender; but you can call me PD (if you are SINCERE, that is.)
 
I provide TRUTH to ALL who would care to seek it (if they are REALLY sincere) and I do it OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER  again.

I am pleased to offer my services for the Betterment of Mankind.

Please feel free to ask me ANYTHING and I'll sincerely post my link list again.

Remember...

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Sincerely,

PD


 
 

50 posted on 11/15/2010 4:55:09 AM PST by Elsie
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