Are You More Blessed Than the Virgin Mary?

Desiring God ^ | 12/15/2010 | Jonathan Parnell

[RobbyS]

The following is what the Church says about Mary:

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p122a3p2.htm#II

This is the real deal. Other posts don't have the sane authority behind them. Nihil Obstat is assigned to books that may disagree on certain points, but which are all are permissible, because they contain nothing the Church has expressly disallowed. To give an example, one book may have a literal view of Genesis, another a liberal view. Yet each will have the nihil obstat and imprimatur. In short, not every book has the same authority behind it. The Church does not require me to accept EITHER opinion.

[presently no screen name]

So, it is better to hide the light under a bushel, than to boldly proclaim the name of the church that you attend that has the truth.

Hiding under a rock? Obviously, you found me.

Why so evasive? Even a simple answer like, “I attend the church on 3rd St and Main in Anytown USA.”, would be fine. Then I could attend the true and only Christian church.

What part of manipulation and intimidation do you think I CAN'T see and didn't see in your first post here - 'with your blinders coming off'?

Manipulation and intimidation are satanic tactics and I don't blow to them. Any more questions?

[presently no screen name]

I didn’t open the link. I know full well what the RCC says about Mary - I was apart of it at one time.

Now it’s your turn to find out what God’s Word says about Biblical Mary.

[RobbyS]

No, God word’s based on your interpretation of it.and what you have been told by others. YOUR experience, your tradition.

[RobbyS]

Have you EVER read it?

[common-sense-man-1776]

Based on your comments, your church is dark and lonely. My quest will continue to find that true and only Christian church, that has members, that will share even the simple thing as the name of the church.

[narses]

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Scripture text: Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.

[presently no screen name]

In short, not every book has the same authority behind it

In short, I only read the ONE BOOK, the ONE TRUTH - HIS WORD with the ALMIGHTY God's authority behind it. You do what you want, but for me and my household we serve The Lord, and obey HIS Word and walk in His blessings. There is no room for anything else.

Man made doctrine is useless when speaking of ANYTHING referring to God, HIS WORD, Jesus and HIS KINGDOM. RCC man made doctrine was created for the counterfeit church.

[Belteshazzar]

Judith Anne wrote:
“The word ‘altars’ is interesting. Don’t protestant churches have altars? Some I’ve been in, do...where the grape juice and crackers are set up before being passed out. So, what is the purpose of the altar? Nothing is sacrified on them, right? Altars can be places of sacrifice, or places where religious ceremonies are performed, or both, or neither.”

I would respond, but I don’t have a clue to what your point is.

[presently no screen name]

the simple thing as the name of the church.

It's God's Church - I told you that.

Based on your comments, your church is dark and lonely...My quest will continue to find that true and only Christian church,

With your lack of discernment, all I can say is HAPPY HUNTING!

[presently no screen name]

No., God word’s based on your interpretation of it.and what you have been told by others. YOUR experience, your tradition.

NO? So you don't take seriously God's Word when HE said I will send you a Comforter and your Teacher? Remember, Jesus is THE WORD - not taking HIM at HIS WORD is clearly at one's own peril. And you want me a part of that? LOL!

Your RCC teachings are showing with your "told by others and tradition" because that's all you know.

[Judith Anne]

Well, check your post 254.

[RobbyS]

You assume that the Spirit that moves you is the Holy Spirit.

[RobbyS]

I am referring to different books that talk about Catholic doctrine, not about the Bible. Those who read such books should be aware that they are not authoritative even if they contain no error condemned by the Church. The Catechism of the Catholic Church is far more authoritative than almost any book written by any theologian.

[presently no screen name]

The Catechism of the Catholic Church is far more authoritative than almost any book written by any theologian.

And, so a Catholic speaks....Besides who cares what man writes? Anything man made is null and void when it concerns the things of God.

God's Word ALONE reigns!

[presently no screen name]

I don’t assume anything - that’s for Catholics.

[caww]

Many thanks for the scripture references Metmom. I assumed wrongfully they would know what my post was referring too...forgetting that though some might talk the faith their faith doesn’t rest on what they know Gods word says, rather what they are told Gods word says.... and for that they miss important and significant things God has instructed us in.

‘The sword of the spirit’...’the armor of God’....He arms us well. ;)

[caww]

books.... which are all are .....permissible,...... because they contain nothing...... the Church has expressly disallowed.

Well now this is interesting... Are you saying then Catholics are under the strong arm hold of Rome in what they are 'allowed' to read? It certainly appears so from your statement. If Rome limits what you read it is no wonder the membership is in the dark. If you can only read what Rome "allows" then this is exactly the same indoctrinational tactics false religions use. Humm-mm.

Metmom, does the Vatican approve or disapprove what catholics read? For real?

[Cronos]

Actually,Christ'c Church, the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church believes the following

believes in

We Believe in One Lord Jesus Christ
The Only Son of God
Eternally Begotten of the Father
God from God, Light from Light
True God from True God
Begotten, Not Made
One in Being (homoousia) with the Father
Through Him All Things Were Made

Do you?

[Cronos]

In Christ's Church, the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church we teach and learn God's Word. We don't believe that Jesus was a container for God (as some of you seem to), but that Jesus WAS God.

The details for this is found in the Catechism

Our beliefs with respect to Jesus is as below:
believes in

We Believe in One Lord Jesus Christ
The Only Son of God
Eternally Begotten of the Father
God from God, Light from Light
True God from True God
Begotten, Not Made
One in Being (homoousia) with the Father
Through Him All Things Were Made


You can see the Catechism repeating this in

290 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth":128 three things are affirmed in these first words of Scripture: the eternal God gave a beginning to all that exists outside of himself; he alone is Creator (the verb "create" - Hebrew bara - always has God for its subject). The totality of what exists (expressed by the formula "the heavens and the earth") depends on the One who gives it being.

291 "In the beginning was the Word. . . and the Word was God. . . all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made."129 The New Testament reveals that God created everything by the eternal Word, his beloved Son. In him "all things were created, in heaven and on earth.. . all things were created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together."130 The Church's faith likewise confesses the creative action of the Holy Spirit, the "giver of life", "the Creator Spirit" (Veni, Creator Spiritus), the "source of every good".131

292 The Old Testament suggests and the New Covenant reveals the creative action of the Son and the Spirit,132 inseparably one with that of the Father. This creative co-operation is clearly affirmed in the Church's rule of faith: "There exists but one God. . . he is the Father, God, the Creator, the author, the giver of order. He made all things by himself, that is, by his Word and by his Wisdom", "by the Son and the Spirit" who, so to speak, are "his hands".133 Creation is the common work of the Holy Trinity.

And Christ's nature is elaborated in

102 Through all the words of Sacred Scripture, God speaks only one single Word, his one Utterance in whom he expresses himself completely:64

And

65 "In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son."26 Christ, the Son of God made man, is the Father's one, perfect and unsurpassable Word. In him he has said everything; there will be no other word than this one. St. John of the Cross, among others, commented strikingly on Hebrews 1:1-2:

The Catechism celebrates and describes God's Word which is what is treasured and learnt and read and re-read in The CHurch.
Church teaching is clear: There is ONLY ONE TRUTH - God's Word, Who is JESUS, THE WAY, THE TRUTH, THE LIFE.

if your group rejects Jesus the Word by embracing man-made doctrine like claiming the Apostles were not blessed, or other wierdness