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Abusive mom was leader of LDS children's organization, story on Dr. Phil-UPDATED
Anchorage Daily News ^ | January 27, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 01/28/2011 6:54:33 AM PST by greyfoxx39

Edited on 01/28/2011 8:38:11 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: laotzu
 

Benevolence & best intentions aside, it is not you who gets to dictate Mormon beliefs, any more than who I define as my brother in Christ.


81 posted on 01/28/2011 10:41:15 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN
 
Ah, but Joey called it ‘approved polygamy’ so Emma would keep her mouth shut.


 

THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded July 12, 1843
 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true;  
 
  
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.
  
 


82 posted on 01/28/2011 10:42:42 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Religion Moderator

Pottery imagery is highly suspect as well!


83 posted on 01/28/2011 10:45:14 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

LOL


84 posted on 01/28/2011 10:47:19 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Elsie

Although sharing many similarities; a Gnome is NOT the same as a Troll.


85 posted on 01/28/2011 10:48:09 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: laotzu; svcw
Laotzu - do you believe in the bible? The bible makes is clear that not everyone who names the name of Jesus is considered to be a Christian.

Gal 1:6 KJV - I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 KJV - Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 KJV - But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 KJV - As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Mat 7:21 KJV - Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 KJV - Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Both passages tell us that there will be those who try to pass a false gospel off. So it goes deeper than your simple definition lao.

The true Jesus is the Second Person of the Trinity, God the Son. Only one true God in existance

The Jesus of mormonism is but one of a pantheon of gods and goddesses.

Your response will demonstrate your level of intellectual honesty on the point as well as your credability.

86 posted on 01/28/2011 10:56:04 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Paragon Defender
Holy Mountain Meadows Massacre, you're right!!!
87 posted on 01/28/2011 10:59:09 AM PST by investigateworld (Buy Ammo! - unless you believe in 'Free Trade', then just buy food and water and clothes & gasoli))
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To: Godzilla

Read the profile page, all is not as it is written on this thread.


88 posted on 01/28/2011 11:04:29 AM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: laotzu; greyfoxx39
Isn't this more of an Alaska connection? Or a Dr Phil connection? I see the mother has brown hair. Did you even consider that connection? Did you know that over 80% of all child abusers drank at least one Coke in the month leading up to the abuse?

Hey, sexual abuse comes in many religious forms...like, say, Taoism -- like this Aug. 17, 2010 article about a Taoist priest who as a "wellbeing cult leader" was under investigation "for the alleged rape of a student":
Source: Clergy sexual abuse reported in China

Or, say, Buddhism:

Buddhist Clergy Sexual Abuse: Annotated Bibliography

(Is that why you don't seemingly like any linkages made on these threads 'tween certain religious abuse...'cause you think your own is up for exposure next? -- Or what would be your motivations?)

89 posted on 01/28/2011 11:37:18 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: laotzu

As a Baptist, my faith requires me to defend my Mormon brothers in Christ.
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If you are a Baptist then you have no “Mormon brothers in Christ”

Mormons are not Christians...

Mormons dont believe in the Trinity, the virgin birth of the LORD Jesus Christ, or the death of Jesus on the Cross for our salvation, or the power in His Blood to save us...

Mormons are members of a whole different religion...

A religion which has its beginnings, doctrines, purpose and history closer to Islam than Christianity...


90 posted on 01/28/2011 12:49:49 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: laotzu

Mormons believe that Jesus is Christ, and that He died on the cross for our sins.
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No actually Mormions believe that their Mormon jesus just sweated in the Garden of Gethsemanee for their “atonement” but not their salvation as her Christians believe...

Mormon dont believe that the blood of their jesus has the power to forgive every sin...

For murder for instance youre on your own...

Paul would not have made it if it was up to Joey Smith and his jesus...

Joey Smith ???

Oh yes, well if youre a mormon first ya gotta get by the judgement of Joey Smith...

He “earned” his rigfht to judge you...

The mormon jesus ...not so much...

and the mormon holy ghost ???

Well it was so naughty that it never did earn a body so it doesnt count...

its more like a helpless lap dog or a mascot...


91 posted on 01/28/2011 12:58:01 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: svcw; greyfoxx39

Look at their home page, at the quotes and whom is quoted a couple of times...


92 posted on 01/28/2011 1:04:52 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: laotzu
As a Baptist, my faith requires me to defend my Mormon brothers in Christ. Not to worry. This is not a burdensome requirement. I want to.

If you are a baptist, why are you quoting Mormon Leadership, Ezra Taft Benson, on your Freerepublic profile page?

I've gone to Baptist churches for years, they are very strong on the Mormon religion being a cult and would never quote one of thier religious leaders as source of wisdom.

Furthermore, why quote a heathan philosopher, Lao Tzu, as if he had any wisdom at all?

If you were truly a Baptist/Christian, I doubt you would be referring to Lao Tzu comments as guiding principles, you'd know and have all the wisdom you need from the Bible.
93 posted on 01/28/2011 1:06:51 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: ejonesie22

Bingo!


94 posted on 01/28/2011 1:07:34 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: SoConPubbie

You got that right!


95 posted on 01/28/2011 1:08:22 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: ejonesie22; Godzilla; Colofornian; svcw

Yeah, I saw all those “Baptist” quotes on there. BTW, there is someone we know who speaks often of time in “Japan”, is there not?


96 posted on 01/28/2011 1:12:30 PM PST by greyfoxx39 ("Journalists" see no problem with fueling a mass panic over our "political discourse.")
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To: svcw
Interesting...
97 posted on 01/28/2011 1:13:14 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Taiwan


98 posted on 01/28/2011 1:17:24 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: greyfoxx39

Beware the “stunt” Mormons...


99 posted on 01/28/2011 1:20:13 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

100 posted on 01/28/2011 1:23:09 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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