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Posted on 02/08/2011 7:12:21 AM PST by Gamecock
HINDUS HAVE applauded Pope Benedict for including verse from ancient Hindu scripture Upanishads in the Good Friday Meditations and Prayers led by him at Roman Colosseum.
Acclaimed Hindu statesman Rajan Zed, in a statement in Nevada (USA) today, said that it was a remarkable gesture from Pope and invited him to study more ancient Hindu scriptures, which were very rich in philosophical thought. He or other Hindu scholars would gladly provide the help and resources in this regard, if asked, Zed added.
Zed, who is president of Universal Society of Hinduism, also commended His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI for inclusion of a verse from Indias Nobel Laureate Rabindranath Tagores Gitanjali and reference to peace icon Mahatma Gandhi in these prayers.
This years 'Way of the Cross at the Colesseum' Meditations and Prayers on Good Friday, led by Pope, included well-known verse from Brahadaranyakopanishad (Lead me from the unreal to the real, from darkness to light, from death to immortality), line from Tagores Gitanjali (Give me the strength to make my love fruitful in service) and reference to Mahatma Gandhi.
Rajan Zed stressed that all religions should work together for a just and peaceful world. Dialogue would bring us mutual enrichment, he added.
Pope Benedict heads the Roman Catholic Church, which is the largest of the Christian denominations. Hinduism, oldest and third largest religion of the world, has about one billion adherents and moksha (liberation) is its ultimate goal.
We as Catholics are very lucky we are still here. We could be the next group to be swept.
Understand, some people have privileges that we do not.
I just lay low.
The Bible doesn't say. Doesn't say about Peter either for that matter. Peter's type of cross tends to come from church tradition. His is somewhat of an aberration so not sure how accurate the account is.
Christ on the otherhand is known by looking at Roman history. There were 3 types of common crosses generally used by the Romans, in some cases 4, but generally 3. P.S. I once took a graduate level Roman history course in college and passed with an A grade. I remember this being discussed in class. Following are the common 3 types:
The cross on the left was called a high tau cross because it was shaped like the capital Greek letter tau (T). Also referred to as the crux commissa or St. Anthony's cross.
The middle cross was known as a low tau cross, shaped like the lower case tau (t). Also referred to as the crux immissa or Latin cross. This is the one commonly believed to have been the cross of Christ based on the 1st century writings of Josephus.
In both cases the central post, or crux simplex, was generally set permanently in the ground while the cross bar was carried to the site by the victim.
The cross on the right was an actual tree still in the ground (dead or alive) with its limbs serving as the cross bar.
On rare occasions there would be a cross (not depicted above) shaped rather like an "X" often referred to as the crux decusssata, or St. Andrews cross. But this one was not very common. The only instance of a 'tau' cross being turned upside down for crucifixion is found in church tradition regarding Peter and was a special request the Romans acquiesed to. How accurate that tradition is I can't say.
At some point, you just have to speak the Truth, and leave the rest in God’s hands. See my last post above. Which may well be my last post, period. Who knows...
Here’s one from the thread “How the Reformation Changed the Church:
THESE STATIONS OF THE WHITE HANKY:
1. ICON TO BEARING FALSE WITNESS
2. BLACK/WHITE ICON OF DUPLICITY, DOUBLE STANDARD DANCE
3. THE ICON TO THE DOCTRINE OFWHEN ALL ELSE FAILSKILL THE MESSENGER.
4. ICON TO CHRONICALLY CHANGING THE SUBJECT
5. ICON OF OBFUSCATIONS TO THE SUPREME DEGREE
10. ICON OF HUBRIS TO THE SUPREME DEGREE
11. ICON OF THE GOLDEN GROPING HANDGROPING FOR ANY EXPLANATION BUT THE TRUTH
16. ICON TO THE RC RABID CLIQUE TROLLING RITUAL
17. ICON TO THE UNDIVINE RIGHT OF TERMINAL SNOOTINESS TO THE MAX.
18. ICON OF THE SLIPPERY GOLDEN DANCE SHOES FOR DANCING THE RATIONALIZING-WEASEL-WORD-JITTER-BUG.
20. ICON OF THE GOLDEN THUMB SUCK IN HONOR OF RCS RELIGIOUS DUTY TO BE TERMINALLY OFFENDED 24/7/365.
#21. ICON of the silver figurine of the lofted tail of a skunk in honor of NAUSEATING NASTINESS in the faithful SERVICE OF the caricatured Magnificent Magical Mummy Mary.
THE VATICAN KNIGHTS OF THE SKUNK!
Oh, yea. I had enough of the Know Nothings that night. There is a real nest of poisonous spiders on the religion forum.
Blasphemy is a very grave sin. I have come to the conclusion that Protestants of the ilk that frequent these threads have no shame and will not hesitate to tell the most odious falsehoods.
I could give a flip what an ANTI-WORD person thinks.
Yes it has become obvious that certain elements can write the most blatant abuses and no moderator will intefere.
“The grave’s a fine and private place
But none I think do there embrace.”
Words such as "false" "wrong" "error" do not attribute motive.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Stop accusing other Freepers of worshiping Satan.
Cronos, stop accusing other posters of worshiping Satan.
And both of you, stop making this thread about individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Well call me confused, because I'm not sure where you are going with that statement?
The only thing I can think of is perhaps Foxe's Book of Martyrs which tells the story of the over 50 million Christians the RCC slaughtered during her reign of terror between 538 - 1798. You might want to go read it sometime, quite the eye opener. Makes supposed blasphemy by protestants pale in comparison.
I have RESISTED believing a lot of that for decades
even though I’ve studied globalism a lot and therefore secret societies somewhat for 45 years.
I just didn’t want to GO THERE.
I didn’t want to imagine the reaches and the successful invasion of and polluting of “Christian” organizations—particularly major ones like the RCC.
However, if one takes Biblical prophecy seriously, as I think every authentic Christian is obligated to do—then,
OF COURSE satan would attack the groups where he could do the most damage and groups THROUGH WHICH he could do even greater damage.
And he’s clearly done a good job.
I think that video was most disturbing to me for at least 3 reasons:
1. Dr Walter Vieth sp? is so incredibly calm, matter of fact, thorough, meticulous, scrupulous, accurate.
2. He uses the organizations and individual’s own words and documents vs Walter’s own opinions.
3. His information is incredibly congruent with rooms full of puzzle pieces I’ve collected over the 45 years.
So, I didn’t have much choice but to go—OK, LORD, I finally see it and accept that the vast bulk of it is quite true regardless of how alarming.
Thanks for your kind words.
Bringing arguments from one thread to another is “flame baiting.” Likewise, bringing arguments from poster’s off-forum blogs is “flame baiting.”
BEWARE OF THE CRITTERS INDEED.
Particularly now that the Vatican is sounding like it will be giving them it’s blessing.
So, the only way I can keep someone from stalking me is to stay off Free Republic.
Thank you for making that clear.
I find your double standard constructions on reality
outrageously . . . disingenuous . . . to put it extremely mildly.
I realize that
—abuse—truly harsh personally assaultive stuff toward individual Proddys is quite WONDERFUL
AS LONG AS RC’S ARE DISHING IT OUT TO PRODDYS.
—AND horrific and even very untrue characterizations of Pentecostal and other Proddy leaders is
EXCEEDINGLY FAIR GAME—EVEN RIGHTEOUS—as long as
RC’S ARE DISHING IT OUT ABOUT PRODDY LEADERS.
—AND literally stalking RELENTLESSLY in very PERSONALLY harsh, PERSONALLY abusive, PERSONALLY DISHONEST ways is applauded, dogpiled on and cheered
AS LONG AS IT’S RC’S AND AN ORTHODOX HENCHMAN DOING IT TO PRODDYS.
MetMom has endured dozens of literally stalking assaults usually DAILY for months while the perpetrator seemingly exalts in the deeds with relative impunity.
AND YET YOU HAVE THE UNADULATERED CHEEK TO WAIL at my
VERY WITHIN THE RULES minor stuff?
What balderdash. What a twisting of reality!
What an outrageous umintigated double standard.
I used to have a grain or three of respect for you.
"Stalking" involves more than unwanted pings. It includes unsolicited Freepmails or emails, soliciting personal information, off forum behavior, etc.
Y’all typically get away with a lot more than even the better of us Proddys do.
Witness how MetMom has been treated for months.
I think the major difference is
Proddys really do seem to have typically very much thicker skins.
MetMom sails on through it with her head held fittingly above the fray.
The deceptive and dishonest ugliness virtually never stops yet MetMom is amazingly serene and composed.
She’s certainly not vengeful and vindictive in response as is the
Vatican RC rep response hereon.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
I’m skeptical y’all would recognize
THE TRUTH about such issues
if it slapped y’all upside the face every 10 minutes.
The RC biases about such matters hereon depict an
INCAPACITY to objectively see, much less describe reality
with hardly a shred of accuracy.
RC mean-spirited spite and vindictiveness are seen as saintly and exceedingly justified.
Proddy humor and satire is seen as viscious and hateful.
We don’t have many options to highlight the duplicities of the RC’s on FR. Yet, we’ve learned to do it within the rules.
Yet, that’s not good enough for the RCs.
THEY !!!!DEMAND!!!! even more special treatment than they already get. They !!!!DEMAND!!!! that FR conform to THEIR VATICAN SENSIBILITIES AND PREFERABLY DIRECT VATICAN CONTROL.
What a farce to pretend that’s authentic Christianity.
To wit . . .
PLEASE TELL ME
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME
An RC thread criticizing
Kathryn Kuhlman was locked because dozens of Proddys sat on the abuse button about it?
or one about
Jim Baker; or Joel Olsteen or Benny Hinn or the Purpose Driven Life author?
Hasn’t ever happened. Proddys don’t behave that way.
We have thicker skins.
As ab “RC” I promise to say a Rosary for you.
But, my heart tells me that I wish I knew enough Latin to tell you (in Latin of course) to “Lighten up Francis”.
We’d have to travel a dozen galactic clusters over down that road to even rise to the gravel under the foundation of the edifice the RC’s hereon have erected of that ilk.
Y’all are galactic masters of what y’all falsely accuse Proddys of.
Could you please reflect, prayerfully reflect, on these words of Jesus Christ? (And the specific words that I have bolded within it? Thanks.
PS. This was today's Gospel -- a good one, no?
Jesus summoned the crowd again and said to them,
Hear me, all of you, and understand.
Nothing that enters one from outside can defile that person;
but the things that come out from within are what defile.
When he got home away from the crowd
his disciples questioned him about the parable.
He said to them,
Are even you likewise without understanding?
Do you not realize that everything
that goes into a person from outside cannot defile,
since it enters not the heart but the stomach
and passes out into the latrine?
(Thus he declared all foods clean.)
But what comes out of the man, that is what defiles him.
From within the man, from his heart,
come evil thoughts, unchastity, theft, murder,
adultery, greed, malice, deceit,
licentiousness, envy, blasphemy, arrogance, folly.
All these evils come from within and they defile.
Manipulation, intimidation, control.
INDEED. And based on falsehoods to begin with.
!!!!CONTROL!!!! phreaques gone wild.
It’s endemic to the INSTITUTION.
I think it’s all they know how to do.
No wonder there was an Inquisition. IT’s in their blood or DNA or something.
Maybe it’s in the ‘holy’ water . . . or their special wafers.
May God multiply donations 10 times over for every dollar withheld by RC’s.
I might be speaking out of turn here, but I doubt Quix would pay it much attention. Prayers are fine, but we proddys would rather you leave the rosary out of it.
Sounds like you are talking about the persistently special privileged RC’s.
My outrage would have been greatly muffled had I known you were around.
Sigh. The duplicity stuff sometimes really gets to me.
I’ll calm down.
When you stick a sharp stick in Proddys eyes,
you can expect a response from a lot of us, me included.
What leaves you convinced that you deserve special treatment and life-time free passes on that score?
All the Proddys I know have a greater attraction to clean fingers than stalking would allow.
So, boatbums, where is the Sista brigade on these attacks?
Way I see it is there is a boxing match been going on for centuries between RC’s and proddy’s. Sometimes blood gets spilled. So naturally from time to time this boxing match is going to find its way on FR.
It all comes down to ‘heresy’. The RC’s yell HERETIC towards the proddy for daring to question the pope, the magisterium and the extra-biblical creeds and sacraments they hold dear.
The proddy in turn yells HERETIC towards the RC’s for violating Scripture, and teaching as Doctrine the traditions of Men which Christ Himself rebuked.
If you ask me its a battle between Scripture and tradition. Scripture will always come out on top. God’s Word will always, ALWAYS prevail so the RC’s have their panties in a wad. You see deep down they KNOW Scripture is the higher authority even though they can’t openly admit it, so the gnashing of teeth and anger and attempts to silence any forms of dissent. The proddy on the otherhand is secure in those same Scriptures and can afford to be humorous about the debates, even empoying satire and sarcasm every once in a while and thus usually has a thicker skin. JMO.