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Bogus Claims About iPhone Confession App
Catholic League ^ | 2/8/11

Posted on 02/08/2011 8:36:34 PM PST by marshmallow

Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on how Internet sites have characterized last week's announcement that a Confession application is now available for iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch users:

"Confession: A Roman Catholic App" was developed by Little iApps to prepare Catholics for Confession. Specifically, the application guides Catholics through an examination of conscience, steering them through a series of questions that tap into issues addressed by the Ten Commandments. It received an imprimatur from Bishop Kevin Rhoades of Fort Wayne-South Bend.

Patrick Leinen, the developer of Little iApps, cannot be faulted for the way some are characterizing this program. This application was never designed as a substitute for Confession: on the contrary, it makes it clear that only absolution by a priest in the confessional constitutes the Sacrament of Reconciliation. Even though most Internet stories mention this, many of the headlines are misleading. Here are some of them:

• "Can't Make it to Confession? There's an App for That"
• "Catholic Church Approves Confession by iPhone"
• "Bless Me iPhone for I Have Sinned"
• "Catholic Church Endorses App for Sinning iPhone Users"
• "US Bishop Sanctions Cell Phone in Confession"
• "Forgiveness via iPhone: Church Approves Confession App"
• "New, Church-Approved iPhone Offers Confession On the Go"
• "Confess Your Sins to a Phone in Catholic Church Endorsed App"
• "Catholics Can Now Confess Using iPhone App"
• "Catholic Church Approves Online Confession"

Headlines like these, coupled with remarks like, "The Church is gonna make a killing…$1.99 and your sins are digitally washed away," are irresponsible. The best we can say about those pitching these bogus claims is that they are clueless. The worst we can say is that they might benefit from purchasing the app and putting it to good use.


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Just to set the record straight.....

This thread part of the daily forum cleanup and sanitization detail after the partyers have all gone home and left garbage threads strewn everywhere.

1 posted on 02/08/2011 8:36:38 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Confeth on FaithBook!


2 posted on 02/08/2011 8:41:18 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: metmom; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; topcat54; HarleyD; Quix; wmfights; 1000 silverlings; ...
Just to set the record straight.....
This thread part of the daily forum cleanup and sanitization detail after the partyers have all gone home and left garbage threads strewn everywhere.

"I know why you choose to have your little, ahem....'group-therapy sessions' late at night. I know why you're afraid to go out in broad daylight.

The Protestants.

See, the Protestants have shown Free Republic your true colors, unfortunately...."


3 posted on 02/08/2011 9:08:39 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: marshmallow

The iPhone app “iPieta” walks you through a nice examination of conscience— and does a thousand other great things! It is phenomenal!


5 posted on 02/08/2011 9:48:49 PM PST by Melian ( See Matt 7: 21 and 1 John 2: 3-6)
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To: Melian

10-4 Sister! I have that one its great!


6 posted on 02/08/2011 10:00:09 PM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: marshmallow
The people who left the trash may want to read this:

"Virtues are formed by prayer.
Prayer preserves temperance.
Prayer suppresses anger.
Prayer prevents emotions of pride and envy.
Prayer draws into the soul the Holy Spirit, and raises man to Heaven."


7 posted on 02/08/2011 10:01:28 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow

$1.25 at your local Catholic bookstore

8 posted on 02/08/2011 10:07:37 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: marshmallow
"The Church is gonna make a killing…$1.99 and your sins are digitally washed away,"

Well...............

9 posted on 02/08/2011 10:11:23 PM PST by caww
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To: Alex Murphy

[Love] is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; 1 Cor 13:5


10 posted on 02/08/2011 10:19:57 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Alex Murphy
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11 posted on 02/08/2011 10:28:50 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Alex Murphy

I don’t understand your response (it’s late and I’m pooped) but thank you, thank you for pinging me to this ridiculous thread.

What next?

“Annulment Apps?”

What they need is a Sermon Apps.


12 posted on 02/09/2011 1:02:07 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Melian

lolol


13 posted on 02/09/2011 1:02:44 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: marshmallow

Yeah, talk about your misleading headlines. This story has many.


14 posted on 02/09/2011 7:25:05 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: marshmallow

I see the garbage you are cleaning up drew flies.


15 posted on 02/09/2011 7:36:27 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Alex Murphy
See, the Protestants have shown Free Republic your their true colors, unfortunately

Corrected your mistake.

16 posted on 02/09/2011 9:09:51 AM PST by Campion
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; Quix

There was a story a few years ago about whether the Sacrament of Confession could be validly administered via the Interwebs.

The answer from Rome was unequivocal—absolutely not. Confession HAD to be done in person. For that reason, I knew the moment I read this story that it could not be what it purported to be.

Wouldn’t expect any of you to remember that story, but the least you could do in Christian charity is ask one of us for clarification.

I’ll be happy to give you all the benefit of the doubt that when you first heard it that you were understandably upset by the apparent crass commercialization of the Christian faith and that you envisioned, perhaps, some kind of money for forgiveness scheme.

But let that patently false notion die here, or be guilty of a grave sin of slander against your fellow Christians.


17 posted on 02/09/2011 11:32:11 AM PST by Claud
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To: Claud; Alex Murphy; Quix
Rome spends half its time making bold yet erroneous statements, and the other half of the time rescinding those statements while blaming those who listened to them.

Therefore, why should any of us listen to a very inconsistent Rome?

Whatever Rome says today we known that tomorrow it will be different.

18 posted on 02/09/2011 11:42:21 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Therefore, why should any of us listen to a very inconsistent Rome?

Don't "listen" to Rome then. Just read the article posted at the top of the thread.

19 posted on 02/09/2011 11:49:53 AM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Actually, what typically happens is that people with the reasoning power of a gnat read into statements which the deficienti in the media then slurp up.

Like this case. A bishop gives an imprimatur to an app—which means that he saw nothing in this program that went against the morals or teachings of the Catholic faith. That’s it. And it’s one bishop anyway. How we got from that to “Catholic Church approves...” is because someone spinning headlines is either a pure dunce or wants to sell papers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprimatur

The media gets it, again, completely wrong. And some folks here fall for it hook line and sinker while breathlessly proclaiming on OTHER threads that they don’t trust the media one iota when it comes to accurately representing the Christian faith.

Maybe I’ll forget that there’s any sort of distinction between PCA and OPC. Maybe I’ll just post every idiotic multi-culti obscenity PCA gets into and huff and puff about how “Presbyterians” approve this and that. And then when someone in OPC corrects me, I’ll complain about Presbyterians being inconsistent and all over the map and saying a different thing every day.

We can play that game. We’ll murder the truth in the process, but heck, we’ll get in a few good shots at each other right? Just like Christ prayed we’d all do at the Last Supper?


20 posted on 02/09/2011 12:13:13 PM PST by Claud
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

No brain transplant apps?


21 posted on 02/09/2011 12:20:35 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

INDEED.


22 posted on 02/09/2011 12:22:06 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Claud
There was a story a few years ago about whether the Sacrament of Confession could be validly administered via the Interwebs. The answer from Rome was unequivocal—absolutely not. Confession HAD to be done in person. For that reason, I knew the moment I read this story that it could not be what it purported to be. Wouldn’t expect any of you to remember that story, but the least you could do in Christian charity is ask one of us for clarification. I’ll be happy to give you all the benefit of the doubt that when you first heard it that you were understandably upset by the apparent crass commercialization of the Christian faith and that you envisioned, perhaps, some kind of money for forgiveness scheme. But let that patently false notion die here, or be guilty of a grave sin of slander against your fellow Christians.

"Money for forgiveness scheme"?

Maniacal Laughter!

23 posted on 02/09/2011 12:23:20 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Claud; Cronos
Maybe I’ll forget that there’s any sort of distinction between PCA and OPC. Maybe I’ll just post every idiotic multi-culti obscenity PCA gets into and huff and puff about how “Presbyterians” approve this and that. And then when someone in OPC corrects me, I’ll complain about Presbyterians being inconsistent and all over the map and saying a different thing every day. We can play that game. We’ll murder the truth in the process, but heck, we’ll get in a few good shots at each other right?

Cronos: you have a call from Claud on the white phone in the lobby.

24 posted on 02/09/2011 12:26:41 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Claud; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; Quix
There was a story a few years ago about whether the Sacrament of Confession could be validly administered via the Interwebs.
The answer from Rome was unequivocal—absolutely not. Confession HAD to be done in person. For that reason, I knew the moment I read this story that it could not be what it purported to be.

I always confess my sins in person..right from my home..my mouth to Gods ear :)

25 posted on 02/09/2011 12:44:57 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Therefore, why should any of us listen to a very inconsistent Rome?

But I thought Rome was consistent! Consistently wrong! I've been led to believe all these years that Rome is "all evil....all of the time." [You can use that as a tagline, if you like]. Unless I've missed something in your shtick, Rome can do no right.

How can it be simultaneously consistent and inconsistent?

Perhaps it depends on what day it is and the story one happens to be spinning, eh Doc?

26 posted on 02/09/2011 12:50:34 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Alex Murphy

Sorry, is basic Christian charity too much too expect one of the “Elect”?

Ah, the evil overlord fetish. Among a group who couldn’t even subjugate the Swiss.

Tsk tsk.


27 posted on 02/09/2011 12:57:16 PM PST by Claud
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To: RnMomof7
I always confess my sins in person..right from my home..my mouth to Gods ear :)

And I don't???

28 posted on 02/09/2011 12:59:14 PM PST by Claud
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To: RnMomof7
I always confess my sins in person..my mouth to Gods ear

As do Catholics. The problem is you lack the ability to absolve yourself of those sins particularly those committed against others.

What type of penance do you assign yourself?

right from my home..

Is that another feature of the dogma of the church of smorgasbord relativism?

"Is any of you sad? Let him pray. Is he cheerful in mind? Let him sing. Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the priests of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith shall save the sick man: and the Lord shall raise him up: and if he be in sins, they shall be forgiven him. Confess therefore your sins one to another: and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much." James 5:13-16

29 posted on 02/09/2011 1:26:31 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Claud

Freemail in a moment.


30 posted on 02/09/2011 1:31:50 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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As do Catholics. The problem is you lack the ability to absolve yourself of those sins particularly those committed against others. What type of penance do you assign yourself?

Could you show me where the apostles taught the need to do penance ? "Say 2 Hail Marys and 2 Our Fathers.. do you REALLY THING that satisfies the wrath of God??

Is that another feature of the dogma of the church of smorgasbord relativism?

Where does it say in scripture one has to go to church to confess their sin ??

"Is any of you sad? Let him pray. Is he cheerful in mind? Let him sing. Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the priests of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith shall save the sick man: and the Lord shall raise him up: and if he be in sins, they shall be forgiven him. Confess therefore your sins one to another: and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much." James 5:13-16

So do you confess your sins to other MEMBERS of the church? The scripture does not say confess your sins to a priest does it? Maybe because there were no priests in the NT church..

This admonition is to confess your sins to the one offended..or just in Christian fellowship.. no where does it promote "confession" to a priest..

The early church had a time during the service when people confessed their sins out loud.. I have no problem with that..

But I do not need a priest to hear my sin..I have an advocate with the Father.. I can go directly to the throne of God

31 posted on 02/09/2011 1:43:18 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Claud

Claud , Catholics think they need an intermediary and need to do their penance to be forgiven


32 posted on 02/09/2011 1:45:36 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; A.A. Cunningham

You are very mistaken. Venial sins can be forgiven immediately if you ask God for forgiveness. No sacramental confession necessary. A wise idea, but not necessary.

Mortal sins can also be forgiven immediately IF you have perfect contrition for them. Perfect contrition meaning you are sorry for having offended against His Goodness, and are not just sorry because you will be punished justly.

What the Christian is doing by denying *sacramental* Confession and just relying on the above two options is

a) denying themselves the security of knowing they have been reconciled to God and His Church
b) failing to heal the breach that his or her sin has caused within the Body of Christ

A.A. Cunningham explained it well above.


33 posted on 02/09/2011 2:08:37 PM PST by Claud
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To: RnMomof7
no where does it promote "confession" to a priest

Jesus was just blowing smoke in John 20:23, just having a little fun with us. He didn't actually mean any of that stuff ... right?

Maybe because there were no priests in the NT church..

Did they take the word presbyter out of the Greek text when I wasn't looking?

Say 2 Hail Marys and 2 Our Fathers.. do you REALLY THING that satisfies the wrath of God??

If your kid destroyed something of yours, would you expect him to make some token restitution to show he was serious when he said he was sorry, even if he couldn't pay back the whole thing? Or would you tell him to forget about it and not bother with any character-building nonsense?

34 posted on 02/09/2011 2:30:59 PM PST by Campion
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To: Claud; RnMomof7
Claud , Catholics think they need an intermediary and need to do their penance to be forgiven

Claud, hush up and listen to a REAL CATHOLIC AUTHORITY tell you what you think.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

35 posted on 02/09/2011 2:38:14 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Alex Murphy; Claud

Claud — don’t feed the troll. Some folks have only hatred against The Church and it’s obvious from their posting history — nothing on any other topic. These folks are trolls.


36 posted on 02/09/2011 9:10:27 PM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos; Alex Murphy

You’ll forgive me Cronos, but I am very much of the Jesuit school of religious disputation, and I can’t see St. Peter Canisius saying “don’t feed the trolls.”

“With words like these, we don’t cure patients, we make them incurable.” -St. Peter Canisius

Alex is a smart guy and I enjoy debating with him. He frustrates the heck out of me sure, but hey, I need the penance.


37 posted on 02/10/2011 7:24:50 AM PST by Claud
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To: Claud

Hey! I was in a Jesuit elementary school and admired their simple lives!


38 posted on 02/10/2011 7:27:04 AM PST by Cronos
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