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What the Bible Really Says About Sex . . . Really?
AlbertMohler.com ^ | February 9, 2011 | Dr. R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

Posted on 02/09/2011 3:51:50 PM PST by wmfights

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To: Lurker
One need read no further than “Jesuit”.

Far from all Jesuits are like this. It's an order that takes an additional vow of loyalty to the Pope, who for Catholics is the final authority on Catholic Church doctrine. It's very possible this particular Jesuit will soon leave the order or be otherwise censured, especially by this particular Pope, who before becoming leader of the Catholic Church was in charge of the commission for enforcing orthodoxy among Catholics. I don't see how any devout Catholic, Jesuit or otherwise, could agree with his views, even if some of them do.

21 posted on 02/09/2011 4:25:09 PM PST by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: wmfights

You mean there was more?

“The current issue of Newsweek magazine reports...”

That’s as far as I got.


22 posted on 02/09/2011 4:27:05 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: newheart

Can’t wait to see how the Military sorts all that out with DADT repeal. If a hetero is prosecuted for adultery or sexual misconduct with prison sentences, will the homosexuals be kept to the same standard? If a two-tiered code is set up, then we’re in for the destruction of our armed forces... which is likely what the intent was all along.


23 posted on 02/09/2011 4:30:48 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: wmfights

Typical passive-agressive, anti-hero, deconstructionist Marxist crap. Make yourself the standard by tearing down the other guy so you’re not on the hook for any promises or statements. When the opposition is gone, enforce your standard brutally and without compromise.


24 posted on 02/09/2011 4:40:34 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: wmfights

Lisa Miller is, and always has been, a complete and total prat.


25 posted on 02/09/2011 4:42:14 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: wmfights
Coogan argues that the biblical condemnations of various sexual behaviors and relationships should not be considered normative for today. In his words, the biblical texts on sexuality “reflect the presuppositions and prejudices, the ideas and ideals of their authors.” He argues that we should not be bound by those same prejudices.

Yeah, Jesus is SO passe! /S

Sad the depths to which the Jebbies have fallen in their attempt to be considered sophisticated, and relevant, to the intellectual elites of the world.

26 posted on 02/09/2011 4:46:27 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: OldNewYork

The article’s phrase, “trained as a Jesuit priest,” implies that the gentleman is not, presently, a Jesuit priest. Maybe he never was one, but only attended seminary for a time.


27 posted on 02/09/2011 4:50:08 PM PST by Tax-chick (With my new haircut, I look like Judi Dench.)
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To: Tax-chick
The article’s phrase, “trained as a Jesuit priest,” implies that the gentleman is not, presently, a Jesuit priest. Maybe he never was one, but only attended seminary for a time. Thanks, I missed that subtext.
28 posted on 02/09/2011 4:55:13 PM PST by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: VOA
Actually, I was a bit shocked when hearing a reading from (IIRC) proceedings from a Puritan church proceedings when a husband was being chastized for not have “intimate relations” with his spouse as often as she desired.

Wow, wish I was guilty of that!
29 posted on 02/09/2011 4:59:14 PM PST by RushingWater
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To: wmfights; Tax-chick
I enjoy and respect Dr. Mohler: he often has me punching the air and yipping, "You tell 'em, Rev!"

I think he sums up nicely why Scripture can be properly understood only in continuity with a coherent 2,000-year-old interpretive community.

I would love --- love--- to hear Dr. Mohler's thoughts on the moral implication of the Onan incident, i.e. sex deliberately deprived of its procreative power via contraception and/or sodomy.

30 posted on 02/09/2011 5:01:48 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: wmfights

The usual sort of blasphemy spouted by the corrupt.

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

Ephesians 5:6, KJV


31 posted on 02/09/2011 5:04:30 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: wmfights

Bookmark.


32 posted on 02/09/2011 5:07:04 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: wmfights
I have far greater respect for the intellectual integrity of the scholar who reads the Bible and interprets it honestly, but then rejects it with candor. This is far superior to evasive and clever attempts to make the Bible say what it plainly does not say. The Bible is brutally honest about human sinfulness in all its forms, including sexuality.

Works for me...

nice post...

33 posted on 02/09/2011 5:07:04 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - World Disaster Map)
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To: SuziQ; Lurker; frogjerk; OldNewYork; Tax-chick
From Wikipedia: "Coogan holds a doctorate in Near Eastern Languages and Literature from Harvard University."

Not another word about his educational credentials; nothing about him being a present or former Jesuit (priest or ex-priest, seminarian or ex-seminarian.)

Ad maiorem Dei gloriam.

34 posted on 02/09/2011 5:11:58 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("As it is written, the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." Romans 2:24)
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To: Brookhaven
Exactly, if the Bible isn't the Word of God, then why go to the trouble to tell anyone what it says?

I take issue with his contention that “most scholars” don't hold to the "arcane" view that the Bible is the authoritative Word of God...the reality is that “most liberal scholars” may hold this view, but true Christian scholars acknowledge the divine inspiration of the Scriptures.

35 posted on 02/09/2011 5:48:33 PM PST by The Unknown Republican
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To: wmfights

Song of Solomon ...


36 posted on 02/09/2011 5:49:46 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: wmfights
feh...
37 posted on 02/09/2011 5:57:49 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: wmfights
Three scriptures come to mind:
38 posted on 02/09/2011 6:18:35 PM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: wmfights

[He rejects outright the belief that the Bible is in any objective sense the Word of God.]

So, after reaching that sentence in the artcle, why would I care what opinions follow?


39 posted on 02/09/2011 7:33:25 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: OldNewYork; Lurker; frogjerk; Tax-chick

Wikipedia does not refer to Coogan as “Rev.” or “Fr.,” so it’s safe to assume he’s not a priest. Also, he teaches “Religious Studies,” not “Theology” at a Catholic university, which probably means he is acknowledged to be a heretic.


40 posted on 02/09/2011 9:02:00 PM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. John Crysostom ("the Golden-Mouthed"))
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