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The Pandemic of End-Times Dysfunction (E.D.)
The Gary DeMar Show ^ | Nov 12, 2009 | Joel McDurmon

Posted on 02/12/2011 6:20:06 PM PST by topcat54

Joel McDurmon, hosting today's show for Gary DeMar, exposes End-times Dysfunction (E.D.) for what it is. Joel shares with doomsdayers how they can get relief from their paranoia and troubled souls.


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: britishisraelism; endtimes; eschatology; rapture; replacementarian; skinhead
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To: topcat54

We’ll let God decide who is winning, but I doubt that you’ll even be there for the decision...


641 posted on 02/17/2011 9:59:46 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: editor-surveyor
We’ll let God decide who is winning, but I doubt that you’ll even be there for the decision...

We would take you seriously if you have something to back up your bravado.

642 posted on 02/17/2011 10:01:22 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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To: editor-surveyor
"Paul and only Paul, knew what Judaism really was about."

ROTFLMAO ...

Now, that's exactly what Irenaeus says is the hallmark of a heresy, but, nooooo, nobody here borders on heresy.

Give each other more high fives all around, you've just strayed into the marsh Irenaeus says is heresy.

You better hope there isn't a Rapture, if there is one ya'll will be here looking for verses to explain why so many Catholics and others who don't agree with you vanished.

Christ and Him crucified, not the NYT, dice, and OT feasts.

643 posted on 02/17/2011 10:01:30 AM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: topcat54

2 Peter 3:8 is not allegorical.

Peter is only explaining the domain of the term “day.”

Replacementeers are just bad allegory.


644 posted on 02/17/2011 10:02:02 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Rashputin

There definitely won’t be many Catholics ‘vanishing.’

http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/123/211-232K/


645 posted on 02/17/2011 10:04:27 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Peter is only explaining the domain of the term “day.”

Your explanation of Peter’s meaning is faulty and identifies precisely why you guys often abandon “literalism” and become far more allegorical that your opponents.

646 posted on 02/17/2011 10:06:53 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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To: editor-surveyor; topcat54
Allegorical is reserved for replacementeers only.

“I don’t know what you mean by ‘glory,’ ” Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. “Of course you don’t—till I tell you. I meant ‘there’s a nice knock-down argument for you!’ ”

“But ‘glory’ doesn’t mean ‘a nice knock-down argument’,” Alice objected.

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”

“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”

“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master that’s all.”

Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. “They’ve a temper, some of them—particularly verbs, they’re the proudest—adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs—however, I can manage the whole lot! Impenetrability! That’s what I say!”

647 posted on 02/17/2011 10:08:02 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: editor-surveyor

Hey, you just party on, dude.

1) No Rapture
2) Were there one heretics wouldn’t qualify
3) You need to check for signs and messages in “True Grit”, that’s another Darby decoder ring.


648 posted on 02/17/2011 10:09:47 AM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: topcat54

Please take me off of any of your ping lists.


649 posted on 02/17/2011 10:16:49 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: JesusBmyGod; Dr. Eckleburg
Possibly thanks. However for Yom Kippur God not only wants men to repent but He supplies the means of repentance, and the notion of "redeemed" is associated with it. The Jewish Day of Atonement is always the same in their calendar but varies on ous, anywhere in the last part of September to October. By the way I was born that day as well, kind of cool
650 posted on 02/17/2011 10:18:16 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: CynicalBear
Please take me off of any of your ping lists.

This is more than once you’ve broken up with me. I’m hurt.

651 posted on 02/17/2011 10:43:55 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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To: editor-surveyor; topcat54; CynicalBear; The Theophilus; 1000 silverlings; RJR_fan; Lee N. Field; ...
Who does it benefit to believe Christ does not reign today over heaven and earth?

Who does it benefit to believe the Gospel will not prevail in this life?

Who does it benefit if we "Christian soldiers" stop "marching as to war?"

I just don't understand the inherent pessimism of dispensationalism. The earth and everything therein were created for Christ's sheep. We may be thwarted, but we will never be defeated.

"Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine" -- Exodus 19:5

And what has God's voice told all men to obey for the past 2,000 years?

"Believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light." -- John 12:36


"That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him" -- John 5:23


652 posted on 02/17/2011 11:23:12 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Rashputin

well the first one did have kim darby in it


653 posted on 02/17/2011 11:26:18 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: DManA; CynicalBear; M. Espinola; topcat54; ShadowAce; jy8z; The Theophilus; Dr. Eckleburg; ...

So, who benefits

(Cui bono?)[1] by preaching as a certainty the global triumph of evil?

Res ipsa loquitur.

The matter speaks for itself. To ask the question is to answer it.

I still wonder why the prophecy pimps, doomsayers, and fortune tellers never see anything good ahead in our generation? What darkness lurks in their hearts, to so blight the bright sunlight of God's providence at work around us today?


[1] Cui bono ("To whose benefit?", literally "as a benefit to whom?", a double dative construction) is a Latin adage that is used either to suggest a hidden motive or to indicate that the party responsible for something may not be who it appears at first to be.
654 posted on 02/17/2011 11:43:30 AM PST by RJR_fan (Lovers and winners shape the future. Losers and whiners TRY TO PREDICT IT.)
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To: RJR_fan

Just to be clear, we all believe Jesus will LITERALLY return to Earth and that day lies in our future. And he will PERSONALLY rule.

No?


655 posted on 02/17/2011 11:54:17 AM PST by DManA
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To: 1000 silverlings
Yup.

Don't be stupid, be a Darby,

Come and join the Rapture Party

656 posted on 02/17/2011 12:06:13 PM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: DManA
Just to be clear, we all believe I do, with joy, anticipate my own physical resurrection at the end of time, when Jesus returns. That's my long-term expectation. Short-term, I look forward to the job God has for me to do. Intermediate, I look forward to influencing grandkids and students. What I do today will make a difference in the 22nd century.
657 posted on 02/17/2011 12:14:14 PM PST by RJR_fan (Lovers and winners shape the future. Losers and whiners TRY TO PREDICT IT.)
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To: RJR_fan

Amen


658 posted on 02/17/2011 12:18:11 PM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: topcat54; Lee N. Field
They just don’t see how their “literal when convenient”/“allegorical otherwise” knife cuts both ways

Satan's butterknife against God's Word? Not hardly...

"For the Word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart".

When will you take this literal...

"The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned".

659 posted on 02/17/2011 12:19:16 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Lee N. Field; topcat54

Reminiscent of children on hard drugs.

That’s where replacementeers will forever be.

Never offering serious analysis, and going bonkers when serious analysis is presented; discussion with such is a handshake with a pit viper.


660 posted on 02/17/2011 12:24:25 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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