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Abuse of Caucus [whiner's caucus]
Self | 22 Feb 2011 | Natural Law

Posted on 02/22/2011 2:53:04 PM PST by Natural Law

An alarming trend is developing in the Free Republic Religion Forum in which a caucus identifier is being claimed for non-existent or impossibly defined groups. With the caucuses being self defined we see nonsense like the Sola Scriptura Caucus. Of course it doesn’t mean all Scripture, only the thread initiators or Forum Moderators definition of Scripture. Jews who believe in the Scripture of the Old Testament are excluded. Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, and Jehovah’s Witnesses are excluded even though they believe in the sufficiency of their own versions of Scripture. The not so transparent purpose of these faux caucuses is clearly to exclude a group of FReepers in a modern day repetition of “Whites Only” and “Irish Need Not Apply” prejudice. If this is allowed to stand what will we see next; caucuses so narrowly defined so as to only include one’s bridge club or to exclude an individual FReeper? How about a caucus designation for everyone but citizens from New York? How about a men’s only caucus? How about a caucus for those of us who drive BMWs? And what is being discussed in these faux caucus threads? Critical doctrinal issues such as ruggedized aircraft, home schooling, and civil unrest in Egypt. Give me a break!


TOPICS: Ecumenism; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: caucusaddedbyjr; caucusthreads; religionforum; religionforumghetto; whiner; whinercaucus; whinerscaucus
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To: netmilsmom; Judith Anne; trisham
"And being called a whiner by the owner."

Its a badge that I will wear with honor. I am a Fisheater, an in your face Catholic who is not cowed or intimidated by earthly authority. If Free Republic disappeared tomorrow my life would change very little. Besides, anyone with a knowledge and appreciation for US history knows that anti-Catholicism is deeply institutionalized within our society to the degree that even the worst offenders are rarely aware of it.

441 posted on 02/23/2011 8:06:58 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Mad Dawg
Sorry about not responding to your post earlier. Unfortunately, I missed it along the way somehow.

But what you've said is exactly the point I was getting at. Thanks for posting it.

442 posted on 02/23/2011 8:07:46 AM PST by Titanites
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To: Natural Law

Isn’t that the truth.
My former Presbyterian DH was totally unaware of that history.


443 posted on 02/23/2011 8:14:04 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: WPaCon

Actually I think it does.. sometimes fools rush in where angels fear to tread


444 posted on 02/23/2011 8:18:07 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: smvoice

By “Apostolic Church”in that post I meant the Church between the Ascension and the death of the last of the Apostles.

Some posit this “perfect” Church gathered at the mountain from which our Lord ascended. And pretty much everything is downhill from there.

Or, a modification of that notion is that the Church was really good until sometime after the death of the last apostle and, say, the Edict of Milan.

That is not my view.

Another view is that Acts and the Epistles present a body in conflict, with enemies without and dissension within. So many of Paul’s letters either directly address dissension or speak about how to address it. His most important and beautiful passages are side-by-side with appeals for unity.

Confronting these internal and external challenges, and guided by the Spirit, the Church slowly organizes itself into a structure able to deal with these challenges and to preserve the Gospel and unfold (which is the meaning of “develop”) the meaning of the Gospel in response to questions and challenges.

This view also depends on a reading of Scripture.

So in this view, Paul’s conversion and call, the subsequent conflicts with Peter (including both “the right hand of fellowship” and “I rebuked him to his face,”), AND the resolution of the conflicts by reaching a settlement in a council and sending Paul abroad represent PART of a Spirit-guided trend.

In this connection, I would note that Paul did not question Peter’s TEACHING, but accused him of ACTING like a wussy. This certainly is a part of the “trend”. Centuries later Catherine of Sienna (a lay Dominican) told the then pope to man up and quit acting like a wimp (with language almost that strong)!

I want to stress that this reading of the early Church also thinks it depends on Scripture. So we have conflicting interpretations of the passages from Galatians. If I may put it this way, you seem to say, “Look here. This shows my point is correct.”

And I’m saying, “Hold on a minute. Not so fast. There’s a whole big Bible out there and an official account (Acts) as well as other parts of this and other letters which may shed some light on this.”


445 posted on 02/23/2011 8:22:45 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Iscool

I think as a general guideline, one in every ten posts should include a whine.

Or actual tears in one of every 25 will also suffice.


446 posted on 02/23/2011 8:24:50 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Titanites

No problem and thank you.

Mad Dawg — lay Dominican
Have mouth. Will travel.


447 posted on 02/23/2011 8:27:41 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: T Minus Four

Some have reported seeing birds and other kinds of animals.


448 posted on 02/23/2011 8:28:06 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: T Minus Four

LOL . . .

particularly with a toddler aged child?


449 posted on 02/23/2011 8:29:05 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Mad Dawg
I hereby concede joyfully — just as soon as I stop laughing — that the non-Catholic-and-proud-of-it side has WAY funnier graphics.

Hey lets face it we have a better sense of humor and the ability to laugh at ourselves !

Hope all is well MD

450 posted on 02/23/2011 8:29:48 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: lastchance

I’m not inclined to let them know

that I know that.


451 posted on 02/23/2011 8:30:15 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: RnMomof7

INDEED.


452 posted on 02/23/2011 8:35:40 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: OrthodoxKirkPresbyterian
It’s not only RCs but all who are wasting time by being rude instead of focusing on Christ’s words. Quix, you too do that when you straightaway start personal attacks, you were the reason I wanted to stay away from freerepublic completely

How kind of you !!!

453 posted on 02/23/2011 8:39:58 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Hey lets face it we have a better sense of humor and the ability to laugh at ourselves !

And are also FAR more competitive.

And you don't know enough Dominicans. Two weekends ago we had an alleged retreat too much time of which was spent mocking ourselves and each other.

454 posted on 02/23/2011 8:53:18 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: the_conscience

Your post at 429: EXCELLENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and I quote you:

You’re either worshiping the true God or you’re worshiping a god of your own making. That’s the message of Scripture.

Those not in Christ are all idolaters, full stop. And even Christians will from time to time be tempted to focus their gaze on something other than God, which is idolatry. See 1 Cor 6:10, Eph 5:5, Col 3:5.

My suggestion is to put aside the philosophical construct that you normally use and try to understand the biblical philosophical construct. You may not agree with it but at least you’ll understand its position.

### end quote ###

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2678253/posts?page=429#429


455 posted on 02/23/2011 9:08:19 AM PST by Joya (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house ...)
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To: Natural Law

Here’s the point, which is old and pretty much outdated, some people show up as trolls, don’t reply to their comments. I would honestly provide a link to dealing with internet trolls here:

http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/troll-tactics.html

There are trolls everywhere, and honestly, just because some troll wants to post offensivsly, with stupidity, or both, doesn’t mean shutting down some forums. In addition, if someone violates the rules of posting (i.e. no profanity, no personal attacks, no racism or violence in posts, repeatedly, make note of the username and report it) If some post turns out to be a little rediculous and not worth one’s while, ignore it, and don’t respond. I’ve seen plenty of trolls in my day, and just because they can say some rediculous remarks doesn’t mean shutting down the group.


456 posted on 02/23/2011 9:15:33 AM PST by Morpheus2009 (I pity the fool - Mr. T)
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To: Mad Dawg
Paul leaves no one in doubt as to what he is saying. There is no interpretation to be made. He states clearly that the gospel which he preached was a direct revelation of Christ, not taught to him by man, nor received of him by man. We can choose to believe Paul or not believe him, but it doesn't change the fact that he states clearly where he received the gospel he preached and from Whom.

And I do agree with you. There is an 'official account'. It is in Chapter 1:11,12.

"But I CERTIFY you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ."

Acts 15:11 is a fascinating verse, if you are ever bored and wish to see something in a new light, perhaps.

457 posted on 02/23/2011 9:16:30 AM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: don-o; Dr. Eckleburg

Lucky you Dr....hopefully that list will grow more and more!


458 posted on 02/23/2011 9:18:12 AM PST by caww
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To: RnMomof7

What special knowledge does one need in order to have an opinion about whether posters can make any caucus that they want?


459 posted on 02/23/2011 9:18:29 AM PST by WPaCon
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To: Quix
Some have reported seeing birds and other kinds of animals

Um...some who?

460 posted on 02/23/2011 9:24:40 AM PST by T Minus Four ("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
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