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Abuse of Caucus [whiner's caucus]
Self | 22 Feb 2011 | Natural Law

Posted on 02/22/2011 2:53:04 PM PST by Natural Law

An alarming trend is developing in the Free Republic Religion Forum in which a caucus identifier is being claimed for non-existent or impossibly defined groups. With the caucuses being self defined we see nonsense like the Sola Scriptura Caucus. Of course it doesn’t mean all Scripture, only the thread initiators or Forum Moderators definition of Scripture. Jews who believe in the Scripture of the Old Testament are excluded. Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, and Jehovah’s Witnesses are excluded even though they believe in the sufficiency of their own versions of Scripture. The not so transparent purpose of these faux caucuses is clearly to exclude a group of FReepers in a modern day repetition of “Whites Only” and “Irish Need Not Apply” prejudice. If this is allowed to stand what will we see next; caucuses so narrowly defined so as to only include one’s bridge club or to exclude an individual FReeper? How about a caucus designation for everyone but citizens from New York? How about a men’s only caucus? How about a caucus for those of us who drive BMWs? And what is being discussed in these faux caucus threads? Critical doctrinal issues such as ruggedized aircraft, home schooling, and civil unrest in Egypt. Give me a break!


TOPICS: Ecumenism; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: caucus; caucusaddedbyjr; caucusthreads; religionforum; religionforumghetto; whiner; whinercaucus; whinerscaucus
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To: Natural Law
I am a 'Fisheater', an in your face Catholic

Well the sign in the sand for Christians is a "Fish"...your comment speaks volumes and explains allot on the manner you use to post...which has no manners whatsoever Imo. Doesn't sound like you're much on the right side of Christianity.

461 posted on 02/23/2011 9:26:18 AM PST by caww
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To: smvoice
Paul leaves no one in doubt as to what he is saying. There is no interpretation to be made. He states clearly that the gospel which he preached was a direct revelation of Christ, not taught to him by man, nor received of him by man. Am I disputing that?

There is no interpretation to be made.

That in itself is an act of interpretation.

462 posted on 02/23/2011 9:29:15 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: T Minus Four

People who’ve visited Heaven and returned to tell about it.


463 posted on 02/23/2011 9:37:26 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: smvoice
Whoops! Let's try that again:

Paul leaves no one in doubt as to what he is saying. There is no interpretation to be made. He states clearly that the gospel which he preached was a direct revelation of Christ, not taught to him by man, nor received of him by man.

Am I disputing that?

There is no interpretation to be made.

That in itself is an act of interpretation.

Acts 15:11 is a fascinating verse, if you are ever bored and wish to see something in a new light, perhaps.

Oh. Are you suggesting I have never read that verse before and have never thought about it?

464 posted on 02/23/2011 9:38:31 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

To take the Biblical words at face value

is an . . . interpretation?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm


465 posted on 02/23/2011 9:40:09 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: caww
"Well the sign in the sand for Christians is a "Fish"...your comment speaks volumes and explains allot on the manner you use to post...which has no manners whatsoever Imo. Doesn't sound like you're much on the right side of Christianity."

First, thank you for breaking Forum Rules to make a post about me.

Secondly, I am not going to accept judgment or critique from those who believe that the Beatitudes are simply examples intended for only for the Jews or preach that personal behavior is exempt from judgment for the elect. The treatment of catholics by the Pauline faux Christians on this site is appalling.

466 posted on 02/23/2011 9:42:42 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Mad Dawg

LoL


467 posted on 02/23/2011 9:50:27 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: don-o; caww
Upon advice of my adviser

Adviser? Most of us are capable of posting our own views with our own brains.

Who's your "adviser?"

468 posted on 02/23/2011 9:55:19 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Gamecock

yes, it has a strange kind of hypnotic effect!!


469 posted on 02/23/2011 9:57:44 AM PST by OrthodoxKirkPresbyterian
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To: Quix
To take the Biblical words at face value is an . . . interpretation?

"Behold the lamb of God."

The minute some words are taken as figurative and others are taken "at face value", interpretation enters the picture.

From this we can see that to decide to take all or none of them "at face value" is also an interpretive act.

In everyday life, when we decide what is "figure" and what is "ground" we have interpreted.

So I answer: Yes.

470 posted on 02/23/2011 10:01:18 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Fair enough.

Thx.


471 posted on 02/23/2011 10:09:19 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Mad Dawg
Am I disputing that?

So we have conflicting interpretations of the passages from Galatians.

You seem to be disputing that in your previous post.

A clear writing, with clear explicit meaning, that is certified, isn't up for interpretation.

Oh. Are you suggesting I have never read that verse before and have never thought about it?

I'm not suggesting anything, Mad. That would be interpreting what I said. I never suggested that you had never read that verse before, nor thought about it. You're reading something that isn't there. Drawing implicit conclusions from explicit words fails every time it's tried. Unless one doesn't really mean what they say and say what they mean.

472 posted on 02/23/2011 10:09:44 AM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Cronos; kosta50; Kolokotronis; wagglebee; Natural Law; dsc; Deo volente; MarkBsnr; Mad Dawg; ...

I’m calling “BABY RUTH”!


473 posted on 02/23/2011 10:14:20 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: OrthodoxKirkPresbyterian
Quix, you too do that when you straightaway start personal attacks, you were the reason I wanted to stay away from freerepublic completely

Well then you are not cut out for the discourse here if you havent brought a white hanky to dust off your rubberized bible , got tin foil for your replacementarian ideas and like pottery

474 posted on 02/23/2011 10:18:31 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Natural Law

I'm going to the gym. Smile at Fluffy; he will make it all better.

475 posted on 02/23/2011 10:21:18 AM PST by Tax-chick (All that, plus a real-meat cheezburger and wine.)
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To: netmilsmom; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg

all you have to do to be happy and dont worry, is stay off caucus threads that aren’t all about you


476 posted on 02/23/2011 10:22:18 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: smvoice
This is a classic example, just classic. It simply couldn't be better.

I asked, for clarification:
Are you suggesting I have never read that verse before and have never thought about it?

I was trying to understand why you said "new".

Out of that QUESTION, YOU spin admonishments to ME not to read into things!

"Are you suggesting ...?" is or can be a yes or no question. So who is reading what into what?

A clear writing, with clear explicit meaning, that is certified, isn't up for interpretation.

Again, that's an act of interpretation. And what does "certified" mean in this context?

My argument to Quix may explain what I mean:

[Quix:] To take the Biblical words at face value is an . . . interpretation?

[Me:] "Behold the lamb of God."

The minute some words are taken as figurative and others are taken "at face value", interpretation enters the picture.

From this we can see that to decide to take all or none of them "at face value" is also an interpretive act.

In everyday life, when we decide what is "figure" and what is "ground" we have interpreted.

So I answer: Yes.


477 posted on 02/23/2011 10:22:41 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: OrthodoxKirkPresbyterian
this is a silly caucus

The neat thing about a caucus thread is that you can vote with your mouse and leave

478 posted on 02/23/2011 10:24:49 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: Natural Law

LOL!

Cue “Jaws” music.


479 posted on 02/23/2011 10:26:21 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Quix
People who’ve visited Heaven and returned to tell about it.

Well, here we part ways. That may be true or not but a) there's no way to know and b) there's nothing I need to know about heaven that I don't already know. It could very well be a tool of the enemy so I count it as such until I know better.

480 posted on 02/23/2011 10:27:43 AM PST by T Minus Four ("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
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