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THE CONCLUSION ON HAROLD CAMPING'S 2011 PREDICTION
PeaceByJesus ^ | 3-19-2011 | PeaceByJesus

Posted on 03/19/2011 5:54:58 PM PDT by daniel1212

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To: Wilhelm Tell
New York City is Babylon

"And all shipmasters and seafaring men, sailors and all whose trade is on the sea, stood far off and cried out as they saw the smoke of her burning, “What city was like the great city?” -- the first thing I thought when I saw the clouds of smoke from the World Trade Center.

That is what happens when some people who call themselves Christians get caught up in date setting and idle speculation. They don’t talk much about Christ.

I've noticed that.

41 posted on 03/19/2011 9:15:25 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Bad eschatology has consequences.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
That is what happens when some people who call themselves Christians get caught up in date setting and idle speculation.

I haven't met any who does that and it would be a sure sign that aren't Christian since God's Word speaks clearly on such activities.

Instead they “witness” about some numerology trick they came up with or the latest revelation from their T.V. preacher.

I would think it could come from anyone who doesn't believe God's Word is the Final Authority. Deception is rampant and this Camping date setting thing is only one facet of it, IMO.
42 posted on 03/19/2011 9:21:54 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Lee N. Field
I don't know what they call themselves

Sorry, I asked if that was their name because of this Campingite signs I've seen pictures. Never mind, it doesn't matter - cultists is good enough.
43 posted on 03/19/2011 10:33:30 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: metmom; daniel1212
I think I’ve heard of Family Radio. I’ll have to look into it more and see if mr. mm knows any more about it.

We got a Family Dollar here, are they related? ;o)

44 posted on 03/19/2011 10:46:01 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
(he quickly rattled a chapter and verse Hezekiah 3:14 or whatever)

Hezekiah 3:14 - I love it!!! There actually ARE some people that will leaf through their Bibles looking for that! ;o)

45 posted on 03/19/2011 10:50:30 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: presently no screen name
Actually, I'm looking in April for the Rapture based on another bit of reasoning.

This is a learning process. I now see things more clearly, and think the Rapture will probably be on Wed., April 6, 2011, the anniversary of the Crucifixion of the son of David, Jesus Christ, on April 6.

> > When the first ripe figs are ready and the vines are blossoming the Lord says arise and come away. This would be occurring in late spring around the first of June.

But it might be in early spring, April instead of June. If it is the time of the Olynthos figs, it will be in early spring instead of late spring.

Look at what I found out about the Olynthos figs. They ripen in the early spring, which starts March 21.

"The fig-tree of Palestine (Ficus carica) produces two and sometimes three crops of figs in a year, (1) the bikkurah, or "early-ripe fig" (Micah 7:1; Isa. 28:4; Hos. 9:10, R.V.), which is ripe about the end of June, dropping off as soon as it is ripe (Nah. 3:12); (2) the kermus, or "summer fig," then begins to be formed, and is ripe about August; and (3) the pag (plural "green figs," Cant. 2:13; Gr. OLYNTHOS, Rev. 6:13, "the untimely fig"), or "winter fig," which ripens in sheltered spots IN SPRING."

(http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/dictionaries/dict_meaning.php?source=1&wid=T0001329)

Christ may come on Nisan 1, but the Rapture could take place at daybreak on Nisan 2, April 6, 2011, the anniversary of the Crucifixion on April 6, 30 AD.

CLUES

De 11:14 says, "I will give you the rain of your land IN HIS DUE SEASON, the first rain (Tishri 1, First Advent) and the latter rain" (Nisan 1, Second Advent).

Jer 5:24 says, "Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD our God, that giveth rain, both the former and the latter, IN HIS SEASON".

Isa 28:4-6 speaks of the "HASTY FRUIT BEFORE THE SUMMER; which when he that looketh upon it seeth, while it is yet in his hand he eateth it up. IN THAT DAY shall the LORD of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of his people, And for a spirit of judgment to him that sitteth in judgment, and for strength to them that turn the battle to the gate."

James 5:7 says, "Be patient therefore, brethren (believers), unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive THE EARLY (Tishri 1) and LATTER RAIN" (Nisan 1).

THE MAJOR CLUE

Hosea 6:3 says that the Lord will come as the morning (i.e., daybreak) and as the former (yoreh, first rain, i.e., Tishri 1) and latter rain (Nisan 1). It says, "Then shall we KNOW, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared AS THE MORNING (shachar, daybreak); and he (the dayspring from on high, Luke 1:78) shall come unto us AS THE RAIN, AS THE LATTER (malqosh, last rain) AND FORMER (yoreh, first) RAIN unto the earth."

The winter rains start on Tishri 1 and end on Nisan 1. A few days ago, I thought the Rapture would be on Nisan 1, April 5, 2011. However, today, I see that Song of Solomon 2:11's "RAIN IS OVER AND GONE" suggests Nisan 2, which falls on Wednesday, April 6 this year, the anniversary of the Crucifixion on April 6, 30 AD. That sounds like something the Lord would plan to do.

I forgot that the Marriage of the Lamb has to be on the first day of Christ's millennial rule. I think that is the day of the Last-Trump Rapture, the great and terrible Day of the Lord and the Day of God's Wrath, Tishri 1, 5776, Monday, Sept 14, 2015.

Of the first day of Christ's millennial reign, Rev 19:6,7 says, "And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent REIGNETH. Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB IS COME, and his wife hath made herself ready."

MAJOR EVENTS COMING AS THE FIRST RAIN, TISHRI 1

1. First Advent: Tishri 1, 3756, Sept 4, 5 BC The sign of Rev 12:1 was in the sky that night. Virgo was clothed with the Sun and the Moon was at her feet. 2. Second Rapture: Tishri 1, 5776, Sept 14, 2015

MAJOR EVENTS COMING AS THE LAST RAIN, NISAN 1

1. Second Advent: Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee years. 2. First Rapture: To me, it looks like the Lord will come on Tue., Nisan 1, 5771, April 5, 2011, and take the Bride of Christ home at day break on Wed., Nisan 2, April 6, the anniversary of the Crucifixion.

You gave me the last clue I needed to be able to see where the Rapture fit best. Until now, I didn't know about the Olynthos figs, the early figs of spring.

THE SECRET OF THE STAIRS (LIKE JACOB'S LADDER, THESE REACH FROM EARTH TO HEAVEN)

Song of Solomon (Canticles) 2:10-17 says, "My beloved (Christ) spake, and said unto me, RISE UP, my love, my fair one, and COME AWAY. For, lo, the winter is past (spring started March 21), the rain (of Nisan 1) is OVER AND GONE (i.e., it's Nisan 2, April 6, 2011, anniversary of the Crucifixion); The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come (it's spring), and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove, which arrives in Israel in APRIL and leaves in October) is heard in our land; The fig tree putteth forth her GREEN FIGS (Olynthos figs IN APRIL), and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell (i.e., the grapes are blossoming and setting fruit). ARISE, MY LOVE, MY FAIR ONE, AND COME AWAY (IN THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE). O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock (i.e., in Christ, our rock; 1Cor 10:4), in THE SECRET places (omit the italicized 'places,' it isn't in the Hebrew) OF THE STAIRS, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes. My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies. UNTIL THE DAY BREAK, and the shadows flee away, turn, my beloved, and be thou like a roe or a young hart upon the mountains (plural) of Bether" (separation, i.e., there are two Raptures).

Song 6:2 says, "My beloved (i.e., Jesus) is gone down into his garden, to the beds of spices, to feed in the gardens, and TO GATHER LILIES."

FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE AT DAYBREAK

When the rain of Nisan 1 is "over and gone", it looks like the Lord will pick us up at day break on Nisan 2, the anniversary of the Crucifixion, April 6, 2011.

Micah 7:1,2 says, "Woe is me! for I am as when they have gathered the summer fruits, as the grapegleanings of the vintage (i.e., after Tishri 1, time of the 2nd Rapture, has passed): there is no cluster to eat: my soul desired the firstripe fruit (i.e., in the spring). The good man is perished out of the earth: and there is none upright among men". They were all caught up on Nisan 1 in the 1st Rapture or on Tishri 1 in the 2nd Rapture.

Hag 2:18,19 says, "Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month (Kislev 24), even from the day that the foundation of the LORD'S temple (Jesus) was laid (was conceived), consider it (lit. take it to heart). Is the seed yet in the barn? (a saying meaning is she pregnant) yea (YES, Jesus was conceived on Kislev 24), as yet the vine (Christ), and the fig tree (Israel), and the pomegranate, and the olive tree (with Gentiles grafted in), hath not brought forth: from this day (Kislev 24) will I bless you."

In John 4:35, Jesus said, "Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest."

The four months seem to be Teveth, Shevat, Adar 1 and Adar 2, because this is a leap year. The next day is Nisan 1. The trumpet was to be blown on all feast days and on the first day of each month. So the trumpet will sound on Nisan 1. Then it looks like we will be caught up to Heaven at the following daybreak.

I would appreciate knowing your thoughts on this. Agape

46 posted on 03/20/2011 12:29:10 AM PDT by STD (War is Deceit - from the koran-Hussein)
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To: presently no screen name

I’m pulling for April 6th, the anniversity of His trip to Golgotha and the Cross! see my previous comment above. Get ready folks, it won’t be long.


47 posted on 03/20/2011 12:31:48 AM PDT by STD (War is Deceit - from the koran-Hussein)
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To: STD
Actually, I'm looking in April for the Rapture based on another bit of reasoning. This is a learning process. I now see things more clearly,

Wait - before I start reading this - who is this from? Camping? Or someone else with date setting? I'm really not interested in reading something from someone who openly defies God's Word.
48 posted on 03/20/2011 12:48:17 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: STD
I’m pulling for April 6th

Oh, it's you that's doing the date setting. Sorry, my Source says otherwise..'...no man knows'. G'night.
49 posted on 03/20/2011 12:53:44 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Lee N. Field

Thanks muchly. I have amended* the article slightly is recognition of this, which is common among cults, “intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind.” (Col. 2:18)

*”By 1970, Camping had dated the Creation of the world to the year 11,013 BC and the Flood to 4990 BC. and in 1988 Camping left the Christian Reformed Church in Alameda, CA., apparently after being barred from teaching. (see here + Christian Renewal Magazine, April 6) Soon after Camping would teach that the Holy Spirit had rejected the local, visible, established church that rejected Camping”.


50 posted on 03/20/2011 6:00:31 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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To: boatbums

Well, there are a LOT of numbers in dollar stores,. so he would have lots of work with.


51 posted on 03/20/2011 6:05:42 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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To: STD

Post back April 7. You are falling into trap; we are to look forward to His return, but not into date setting, but redeem the time for the days are evil.


52 posted on 03/20/2011 6:09:43 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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To: presently no screen name

We are commanded to watch, prepare and wait. I’m not predicting anything. Besides, the passage you quote says the opposite. If you watch, you will know, BTW


53 posted on 03/20/2011 11:15:16 AM PDT by STD (War is Deceit - from the koran-Hussein)
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To: presently no screen name
Now I'm confused, are you following the false prophet Camping March prediction? By putting up bulletin boards and stating you have secret knowledge from God, you are date setting.

Unless you say the Lord said, or thus sayeth the Lord merely stating that April 6th, the Anniversary of Jesus' crucifiction looks like a possible rapture date is not heretical by any means. We are told to watch, prepare and wait patiently in faith. I don't know where you adopted your twisted notion against watching, or suggesting that April 6th might be the day of rapture. Your theology is not Biblical. This suggestion of an April 6th rapture comes from genuine children of God obeying His command to watch.

54 posted on 03/20/2011 11:27:49 AM PDT by STD (War is Deceit - from the koran-Hussein)
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To: STD
We are commanded to watch, prepare and wait.

Yes, but not wait as if there is no work to do.

I’m not predicting anything.

Then the April 6th post wasn't yours? I appreciate how you use the Jewish holidays/events in your approach and not pie in the sky that Camping does; however, date setting is still wrong, IMO, seems to have an 'I can prove God's Word wrong because here's the date. And, I don't believe that's your intent in anyway but that practice is doing just that.

All that aside, I would want you to be correct in the date because I believe God does use Jewish events because of their significant meaning and, in no way, do I believe you are trying to deceive anyone, but you earnestly seek 'to be with The Lord'.

Camping is deceived big time and has deceived others and it's more about him being right - nothing about relishing the very thought of being with God.

I believe your intentions and approach are legit and I'd hate for you to be marked with the 'date setting camp' since I just had a crash course in Camping and his tactics/history and I am repulsed by it. Hope you understand.
55 posted on 03/20/2011 12:03:37 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: daniel1212

We get family radio in our area.. They used to have some interesting sound programs on ..now it is full of his deception.

What is sad is that those that have left their churches at his urgings will be confused may 23


56 posted on 03/20/2011 12:15:53 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: STD
Now I'm confused, are you following the false prophet Camping March prediction?

You certainly are confused!! Where are you getting that distortion of my posts from?

I don't know where you adopted your twisted notion against watching, or suggesting that April 6th might be the day of rapture. Your theology is not Biblical.

WOW! In your confusion - you are assigning your twisted assumptions to me. Don't do that! I'm not the one assigning any date to the rapture. You are offended because I don't buy into your desire to do it.

I have a right to follow God's Word as I see fit and not according to your standard of date-setting because we are commanded to 'watch'. Individually, we both could be wrong or right. But thank God He's the one who knows our heart in these matters. Thank you for all you do. And on that note, I'm finished with this subject.
57 posted on 03/20/2011 12:31:26 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I posted campings stuff not mine. For obviously his reasoning is misguided gnostism.


58 posted on 03/20/2011 2:00:36 PM PDT by STD (Nobel Peace Prize Winner, Imam Barak Hussein Obama Launchs a War in Libya)
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To: presently no screen name

If you want to talk privately, I can call you or send me a PM. I don’t think we’re comunicating very well in print.


59 posted on 03/20/2011 6:02:23 PM PDT by STD (Nobel Peace Prize Winner, Imam Barak Hussein Obama Launchs a War in Libya)
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To: STD
"I now see things more clearly, and think the Rapture will probably be on Wed., April 6, 2011"

Except for one little detail ... there's no "rapture". It's a HOAX

60 posted on 03/20/2011 8:01:57 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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