Posted on 03/28/2011 3:36:19 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
300 year commemoration in which the Ottomans were pushed back.
Don't make up illogical claims.
Caww -- sorry, but you are talking through your hat. Hinduism getting chummy with Islam???
if you knew anything you would not make such false statements
Caww -- sorry, but you are talking through your hat. Hinduism getting chummy with Islam???
Some more proof from here
Another example would be the slaughter of the Jews of Medina by Mohammed in 626 CE: after expelling two Jewish tribes, the third one, the Banu Quraiza, were exterminated: all the ca. 700 men were beheaded, while the women and children were sold into slavery, with the Prophet keeping the most beautiful woman as his concubine (she refused to marry him).Or Daniel Pipes: Moslem genocide of hindusHindus too experienced this treatment at the hands of Islamic conquerors, e.g. when Mohammed bin Qasim conquered the lower Indus basin in 712 CE. Thus, in Multan, according to the Chach-Nama, "six thousand warriors were put to death, and all their relations and dependents were taken as slaves". This is why Rajput women committed mass suicide to save their honour in the face of the imminent entry of victorious Muslim armies, e.g. 8,000 women immolated themselves during Akbar's capture of Chittorgarh in 1568 (where this most enlightened ruler also killed 30,000 non-combatants). During the Partition pogroms and the East Bengali genocide, mass rape of Hindu women after the slaughter of their fathers and husbands was a frequent event.
The Muslim conquests, down to the 16th century, were for the Hindus a pure struggle of life and death. Entire cities were burnt down and the populations massacred, with hundreds of thousands killed in every campaign, and similar numbers deported as slaves. Every new invader made (often literally) his hills of Hindus skulls. Thus, the conquest of Afghanistan in the year 1000 was followed by the annihilation of the Hindu population; the region is still called the Hindu Kush, i.e. Hindu slaughter. The Bahmani sultans (1347-1480) in central India made it a rule to kill 100,000 captives in a single day, and many more on other occasions. The conquest of the Vijayanagar empire in 1564 left the capital plus large areas of Karnataka depopulated. And so on.Or Hindu Kush and the Hindu genocideAccording to some calculations, the Indian (subcontinent) population decreased by 80 million between 1000 (conquest of Afghanistan) and 1525 (end of Delhi Sultanate).
{AFghanistan was Buddhist/Hindu/Zoroastrian until the advent of Islam}Now Afganistan is a Moslem country. Logically, this means either one or more of the following must have happened:
a) original residents of Hindu Kush converted to Islam, or
b) they were slaughtered and the conquerors took over, or
c) they were driven out.Encyclopedia Britannica (3) already informs us above about the resistance to conversion and frequent revolt against to the Moslem conqueror's rule from 8 th thru 11 th Century AD. The name 'Hindu Kush' itself tells us about the fate of the original residents of Gandhaar and Vaahic Pradesh during the later period of Moslem conquests, because HINDU KUSH in Persian MEANS HINDU SLAUGHTER (13) (as per Koenraad Elst in his book 'Ayodhya and After'). Let us look into what other standard references say about Hindu Kush.
Persian-English dictionary (14) indicates that the word 'Kush' is derived from the verb Kushtar - to slaughter or carnage. Kush is probably also related to the verb Koshtan meaning to kill. In Urdu, the word Khud-kushi means act of killing oneself (khud - self, Kushi- act of killing). Encyclopedia Americana comments on the Hindu Kush as follows: The name Hindu Kush means literally 'Kills the Hindu', a reminder of the days when (Hindu) SLAVES from Indian subcontinent died in harsh Afgan mountains while being transported to Moslem courts of Central Asia (15). The National Geographic Article 'West of Khyber Pass' informs that 'Generations of raiders brought captive Hindus past these peaks of perpetual snow. Such bitter journeys gave the range its name Hindu Kush - "Killer of Hindus"'(10). The World Book Encyclopedia informs that the name Kush, .. means Death ..(16). While Encyclopedia Britannica says 'The name Hindu Kush first appears in 1333 AD in the writings of Ibn Battutah, the medieval Berber traveller, who said the name meant 'Hindu Killer', a meaning still given by Afgan mountain dwellers who are traditional enemies of Indian plainsmen (i.e. Hindus)(2). However, later the Encyclopedia Britannica gives a negationist twist by adding that 'more likely the name is a corruption of Hindu-Koh meaning Hindu mountains'. This is unlikely, since the term Koh is used in its proper, uncorrupted form for the western portion of Hindu Kush, viz. Koh-i-Baba, for the region Swat Kohistan, and in the names of the three peaks of this range, viz. Koh-i-Langer, Koh-i-Bandakor, and Koh-i-Mondi. Thus to say that corruption of term Koh to Kush occurred only in case of Hindu Kush is merely an effort to fit in a deviant observation to a theory already proposed. In science, a theory is rejected if it does not agree with the observations, and not the other way around. Hence the latter negationist statement in the Encyclopedia Britannica must be rejected.
Encyclopedia Britannica informs that in December 1398 AD, Timur Lane ordered the execution of at least 50,000 captives before the battle for Delhi, .. and after the battle those inhabitants (of Delhi) not killed were removed (as slaves) (17), while other reference says that the number of captives butchered by Timur Lane's army was about 100,000 (18). Later on Encyclopedia Britannica mentions that the (secular?) Mughal emperor Akbar 'ordered the massacre of about 30,000 (captured) Rajput Hindus on February 24, 1568 AD, after the battle for Chitod' (19). Another reference indicates that this massacre of 30,000 Hindu peasants at Chitod is recorded by Abul Fazl, Akbar's court historian himself (20). These two 'one day' massacres are sufficient to provide a reference point for estimating the scale of Hindu genocide. The Afgan historian Khondamir records that during one of the many repeated invasions on the city of Herat in western Afganistan, 1,500,000 residents perished (11).
And there is far, far more valuable proof of the hatred for hinduism expressed by Islam. James can probably supply more
Caww -- finally, note that there are no people who hate Islam as much as Hindus. If you ever travel in India (and I have as well as helped out (minor help) in some charities, you will realise that Hindus HATE, utterly irrevocably HATE Islam. There is no compromise, it's ingrained after having 10 centuries of genocide perpetuated against hindus by Moslems.
So, I repeat your statements about Hindus or Catholics getting "chummy" with Islam is historically, factually and in every way wrong.
Interesting stuff there, Cronos. Thanks.
I'd suggest reading about the Somnath temple, about the slaughter of Mangalorean Catholics by Tipu Sultan and also the actions of Aurangzeb.
There was a very interesting Hindu website which dissected Mohound's life and the hadiths in very good detail as well as expressed itself on the history of Islam. Perhaps James or Fred or swarthyguy may have the link (I can't remember the website name)
Caww -- if you read some history, you'd find this the most false statement you've ever made
Hinduism tells us that the “Self” which dwells in each and every being in this universe is one and the same with Godhead. Every soul in this uinverse is a reflection of this Supreme Self. Thus every individual has the potential to realize Godhead by the realization of this “Self”.
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Islam imposes a threat to the whole world which is far worse than deforestation, nuclear destruction or AIDS. It is an insidious, devilish disease creeping into the veins of the world. Every individual must realise the destructive and evil nature of this religion, for it eats away at the very foundation of humanity which is an individual’s ability to think individually and act accordingly. The following articles logically analyse different aspects of this so called religion and bring forth the true nature of Islam.
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/
Cronos...Japan and America also use to be hateful toward one another...’you need to get current’ with what they are doing, their actions toward one another. People can proclaim many differences and yet unite...which is the push now between Hinduism and Muslims. Of course history is good to know in understanding just that...but this is now and there is a heavy movement to unite.
Further the push for one world religion is not about all believing the same thing..it is about allowing and respecting all faiths under one roof of unity.
So you are wrong Cronos to say this is not happening..read the news in the nations and you will see their actions, despite the conflicts, are moving toward acceptance of one another. The links below are only a few of the many you can find on line...
Muslims welcoming Hindus...celebration
http://news.oneindia.in/2010/11/21/muslimswelcome-hindu-statesman-zed-to-id-al-adhacelebratiohtml
another example of unity...in pictures.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/photos-news/Photos-India/welcomeganesha/Article4-598763.aspx
Hindus welcome Muslims....
http://www.hindustantimes.com/photos-news/Photos-India/welcomeganesha/Article4-598763.aspx
Please refer to my links in rebuttal to your statement that Hindus are hateful toward Islam...their actions speak louder than their history today. They are indeed attempting to bridge the gap between them....despite the history..as many religions are attempting to do today...despite their history.
For those interested in the history of Hinduism and the conflicts with Muslims....this might be interesting. But I am refering to today and what is taking place Cronos...like it or not they are interacting with the idea of “peace” between them...and this will continue as more and more come on board to unite religions under one roof...which as said does not mean they all believe the same thing...but they will accept one anothers difference and unite just the same.
Giovanna...I see Cronos has once again slathered a thread with various historical sites on the issue of Hinduism among the faiths. I’m sorry for that as links would have been just fine, along with personal comments or assessments in how viewed.
Thank you again for posting this thread.
CW
When you add into the fray an overall Universal approach to mankind from the secular community and nonbelievers it is rather amazing the speed this is going. I noted CNN consistent at pushing Universalism and One world in many of their commercials.
I do not know how caww has stumbled upon the Great Saffron “Blue”print, the Protocols of the Younger Shiva(s).
But all emanates from the great Vishnu, including Islam.
And who were those three mysterious men from the East, heralding the birth of Jesus?
And Cronos, why do Catholics mimic the dotheads of the East on Ash Wednesday......why don’t they use colors instead of that monochromatic hue.
Connections everywhere if you wish to look!
Here’s a couple more stating the Unity push between Muslims and Hinduism....I think that we need to watch what they are doing Cronos...and this apparently is flying in the face of the old school thought of the two being in idrect opposition with each other...despite their history.
President of the Nepalese section of the World Hindu Federation: We are never against communal harmony. If celebration of festival together with other religious people prevails in communal harmony, then we are ready to celebrate Isamic or Christian or any other religious festival.
http://dharmadeen.com/2011/01/18/nepal-unity/
Muslim statement...”The Hindus respect Vavar, and we believe also that he was a great saint. So where is the problem? They believe what they believe. But if they come here we must be hospitable and make them welcome The whole world is fighting about religion. But this is a place where you can show the light of peace, a place that brings all religions together. All human beings are equal here. There is a lesson here for everybody.
http://www.abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&Id=213320
I am becoming more and more convinced that the Antichrist will be Muslim and the rise of Islam could very well mean that that the one world religion will be Islam.
As we know, prophecy doesn't come into sharp focus until is is about to happen or is in the process of happening. We're watching prophetic Scripture playing across the world like a movie.
The Antichrist of the Bible will be perceived by the Muslims as their Messiah. And while I don't give any credence to Islamic eschatology, I find it very interesting that their "prophecies" appear to be happening at the same time as those given to us by the Holy Spirit are definitely coming to pass.
Yes it is interesting and should be required listening for every American as well....then they would see what we are up against. Islam dictates all aspects of muslims life and life is structured around their belief system....thus they can use videos such as this to manipulate their masses at will...and this will certainly impact them since it’s going worldwide now....including their military.
I do not believe Islam will be the the one world religion, rather it will be the main line religions allied together of which Islam will be a part of...perhaps those who will be called on for the beheadings prophecy speaks of.
More like Islam, Catholicisim, Mormons, Hindus and the world Council of Churches...each playing a specific roll assigned to them but under one Universal Collective name yet to be determined. Similar to the UN or Nato and such...still maintainimg their individuality yet a collective...and of course an “elected representative” from them.
These are the Organizations/Religions with fast sums of monies and real-estate, as well as business ventures so they will be brought under one roof to control those monies.
As for ‘their’ eschatology....well, there is always a counterfeit the enemy of mens souls uses to deceive the masses with...been that way for centuries. So no surprise Islam, yet again, borrows from Christianity and twists it to their own liking.
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