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WHAT DAY WAS JESUS CRUCIFIED? ( NOT FRIDAY, THE BIBLE SAYS NO! )
self | revised 2011 | RaceBannon

Posted on 04/16/2011 7:28:34 PM PDT by RaceBannon

What day was Jesus Crucified? The Bible says WEDNESDAY, not Friday.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Theology
KEYWORDS: cricifixion; easter; passover
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1 posted on 04/16/2011 7:28:42 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon

About the only thing deserving of ALL CAPS is the exclamation that HE LIVES. Certainly not every letter of your thread title.

Can I ask you what difference it makes?


2 posted on 04/16/2011 7:31:42 PM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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I don’t know where you get Wednesday from, but the Jews were in a hurry to get him buried because the next day was the sabbath.


3 posted on 04/16/2011 7:39:36 PM PDT by webboy45
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To: RaceBannon

There’s baseball in the Bible. In the big inning...


4 posted on 04/16/2011 7:41:45 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (it is time to repent)
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To: RaceBannon
This thread addresses the issue really well. Check it out:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2226464/posts

5 posted on 04/16/2011 7:42:24 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: RaceBannon

Hum! All the times I have read the Bible I don’t remember reading Wednesday.


6 posted on 04/16/2011 7:43:09 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: InvisibleChurch
There’s baseball in the Bible. In the big inning...

New rule. Only Jokes that are less than 25 years old allowed. thanx.

7 posted on 04/16/2011 7:46:26 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: webboy45

The next day was an high sabbath day

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+19:31&version=KJV


8 posted on 04/16/2011 7:48:19 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: webboy45
All Hebrew Holy Days are considered Sabbath - even especially Passover.
9 posted on 04/16/2011 7:49:48 PM PDT by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Jubal Harshaw [Robert A. Heinlein])
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To: RaceBannon

Monday. Mondays are a _itch!


10 posted on 04/16/2011 7:50:03 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: RaceBannon
I see. So the Sabbath is on Thursday then.

What's the Greek word for "Wednesday"?

11 posted on 04/16/2011 7:50:30 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: RaceBannon

WHAT DAY WAS JESUS CRUCIFIED?

According to the Bible, the events of the lives of the Jews that were recorded in the Old Testament were recorded so that we as Christians would understand certain examples of how to live the Christian Life and the meaning of God’s plan for believers. While the ultimate meaning of these events was a mystery to the Jews, we as Christians believe we have the fulfilled and finished Word of God revealed to us through Scripture.

In 1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

It is necessary to examine the events of the distant past to come to the truth on what I believe is a serious subject related to Easter, Passover, and on just what day did Jesus die on the cross.

What I want to examine in this paper, is the relationship of the Passover to Christ’s death, and to settle the question once and for all: What day of the week was Jesus Christ crucified? Some don’t think this is important. I believe ANY doctrine that involves the Lord Jesus Christ IS important, and we should strive to be accurate. To do this, we must look at what God said of His feasts known to us as Passover and the Feast of First Fruits.

The Passover was the Feast instituted by God to teach the Jews of the coming judgment against Egypt that would end in the release from slavery for the Jewish people. God told Moses that He would come down about midnight to kill the entire first born of Egypt:

Exodus 11: 4 And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt:
5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts.

6 And there shall be a great cry throughout all the land of Egypt, such as there was none like it, nor shall be like it any more.

7 But against any of the children of Israel shall not a dog move his tongue, against man or beast: that ye may know how that the LORD doth put a difference between the Egyptians and Israel.

God told the Israelites He would kill the entire first born of all Israelites and Egyptians. God, however, told Israel that there was a way that they could escape punishment from this death, To do so, God instituted the Feast of the Passover; meaning a Feast of celebration and remembrance of the Day that God Passed Over them, leaving them alive, but killing all the first born of Egypt and of those who did NOT follow God’s instructions.

In the Book of Exodus, we read of the Passover, the first Holiday commanded by God as given to the Jewish people.

12:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying,

2 This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.

Note here, that God declared this Holiday so profound, that the month that it was in, was to mark the beginning of a new year for the Jewish people. The month to celebrate the Passover was to now be the first month. The Jewish people in the start of their year were being told to remember God in a wonderful way.

3 Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:

4 And if the household be too little for the lamb, let him and his neighbour next unto his house take it according to the number of the souls; every man according to his eating shall make your count for the lamb.

5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:

This is a significant point. The LAMB of the Passover must have been selected previously in order that the Jewish people knew they had a perfect lamb for this feast day, but it was this day, the 10th, that it was to be declared to be THE LAMB, the one they would sacrifice and eat.

6 And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.

For 4 days, this LAMB was known to be THE LAMB until it was killed and eaten for the Passover. The Jewish day began at Sundown, so it was the 3rd day after the Day of Presentation that this LAMB was to be killed, to be eaten at the beginning of the Passover Day, which began at 6PM. This means that in order to have the LAMB killed and prepared for the meal at 6PM, the LAMB had to be killed beforehand. Jewish tradition is that the LAMB was killed around 3PM on the 13th of the month, dressed, and prepared for the Passover meal immediately after 6PM, the beginning of the Passover on the 14th.

7 And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.

8 And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.

9 Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof.

10 And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire.

Note here that the entire animal was to be eaten. Nothing was to remain. It had to be a total acceptance of the LAMB as a meal. The Jewish people were not to eat just the legs, or just the ribs, but the entire animal. This was the lesson taught to the Jewish people. God said to eat it all, and let none remain, and if your family was too small to at it all, have friends over to help you finish it.

11 And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the LORD’S Passover.
12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.

13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.

14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

Note here that after the Passover, there was to be deliverance. The people were to be ready, to move, to act on what God said, fully clothed, and with your shoes on. God was coming to enact judgment! What is also interesting, is that those who were obedient to God, would not have this judgment upon them, they would be PASSED OVER. God’s judgment would not affect them if they put the blood over their doorway in the manner God said. It was to be over the top and along the sides.

This first High Holy Day was again mentioned in Leviticus chapter 23.

Leviticus 23

23:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
It is important to note, here, that Sabbath Days were Holy Days, there was to be NO WORK done on those days. These days were to be HOLY UNTO THE LORD, DAYS OF REST, Days spent in prayer and worship.

5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the Lord’s passover.

Note here the Passover begins at Evening.
6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.

7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

Note here something significant: The first Day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the 15th, is a HOLY DAY, it is a Sabbath. The rules apply to this day as to other days concerning the Sabbath regarding work, travel, and all behavior.

All this is leading up to something that has affected the Church for two centuries. All my childhood, I was taught that Jesus Christ’s death on the Cross was on a Friday, but is this what the Bible teaches? I believe that Jesus Christ was Crucified on Wednesday, the 13th, on the Day of preparation, the same day and about the same time as the lambs that were about to be eaten for the Passover meal.

In order to examine this, we need to go over again, from the Bible, the events that lead up to Christ’s Atoning death on the cross.

Some days of this time period are mentioned quite specifically:

Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

Mark 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.

Luke 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.

3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

John 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

What is obvious here is that on the first day of the week, Sunday, when the Disciples went to the Tomb of Jesus, He was already risen! The Tomb was Empty!. We Christians know this as Easter Sunday. We Christians believe this is our Holiest Day for it is the day that Christ arose to prove the power of Christ over death. This power over death is what we look forward to as believers, to be with Christ in eternity, arisen with Him in new resurrected bodies.

In order to examine what day Jesus died, though, we obviously need to dig deeper. John the Baptist announced the Lord Jesus Christ to the world when Christ’s official ministry began at His baptism.

John 1: 29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Note that Jesus is called the LAMB OF GOD. We have seen earlier, that it was a LAMB that was to be chosen to be sacrificed for the feast known as PASSOVER. John called Jesus THE LAMB OF GOD. If the Passover LAMB was to be a type of Christ, then there should be a connection between the death of the Lamb in the Passover feast and Jesus Christ’s death on the Cross.

I believe the purpose of Christ’s death was foreshadowed in the death of the Passover Lamb:

Exodus 12:23 For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.

24 And ye shall observe this thing for an ordinance to thee and to thy sons for ever.

25 And it shall come to pass, when ye be come to the land which the LORD will give you, according as he hath promised, that ye shall keep this service.

26 And it shall come to pass, when your children shall say unto you, What mean ye by this service?

27 That ye shall say, It is the sacrifice of the LORD’S passover, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when he smote the Egyptians, and delivered our houses. And the people bowed the head and worshipped.

Christians understand the meaning of this as the Egyptians are the representing of Sin in the Believers life before they are Born Again. When a person is Born Again, they pass under the Blood, they are saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ, shed on the cross for our sins, that we are no longer servants of sin, but alive unto God. By being UNDER THE BLOOD of Jesus, we are no longer going to suffer the penalty of eternal separation from God at the time of our death, symbolically, the Angel of Death will PASS OVER us.

(Rom 6:17 KJV) But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

(1 Pet 1:18 KJV) 18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

Being a slave in Egypt is likened to being a slave to sin. When a person is Born Again, they are released from this bondage, being now a child of God. They are to approach this life with their clothes fully on, and their shoes on, just like the Jews were told to eat the Passover meal, fully clothed, and with their shoes on their feet, ready to move, ready to live for God. While the Believer will still suffer temptation and still sin, Jesus Christ paid the penalty for their sin, and the bondage of eternal punishment is over.

In addition to this, Jesus once said:

(John 6:54 KJV) Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

(6:55 ) For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

(6:56 ) He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

(6:57 ) As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

(6:58 ) This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

For the connection to the Passover Lamb to be made through John the Baptist, we should see other references, and this passage from Jesus, telling believers they must “Eat His flesh and drink His blood”, can only refer to the Passover Lamb and the requirement that the Israelites eat the whole animal; yet to be a spiritual reference to eating: to consume who Jesus is, to consume the writings of Jesus, the teachings of Jesus, the life of Jesus; to be played out in the life of the Believer in obedience to God through Christ.

Knowing all this, what can we expect to find concerning Christ’s relation to the Passover? The Passover Lamb was presented to the people on the 10th day of the month. The Bible tells us this concerning what day Jesus was ‘Presented’ to the people of the land of Israel which we call PALM SUNDAY. From this, we can determine other things from the Bible, and prove what day of the week Jesus was crucified for our sins.

John 12:1 Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.

2 There they made him a supper; and Martha served: but Lazarus was one of them that sat at the table with him.

We know Jesus was in Bethany on the 8th, 6 days before the Passover on the 14th. The Supper was the evening meal, the largest meal of the day. Remember, the day for the Jews began at Sundown, which means while Jesus arrived on the 8th, Jesus had to have eaten this meal on the 9th, the 5th day before the Passover.

Since we believe that Jesus was THE LAMB OF GOD,

(John 1:36 KJV)And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!),

and, if we start with the assumption that if the Crucifixion was on the 13th, the Day of Preparation before the PASSOVER, then the 9th would be the Sabbath previous to the Passover: Where would we expect Jesus to be? The Bible is silent on this, but we must consider: Jesus did no sin, nor did He lead others to sin. Before Jesus entered Jerusalem, He would have spent the Sabbath observing the Sabbath, His travel into Jerusalem would have been the day after the Sabbath, and since the 9th is the Sabbath, Jesus entry into Jerusalem would have to be the 10th of the month. The people’s response would be considered a work in a way, they would have been moving about, exercising and traveling to see the Messiah, something inappropriate for the Sabbath Day. That means Jesus would have entered Jerusalem on the 10th, 4 days before the Passover. We Christians call this day Palm Sunday. And, since Sunday would be the 10th, Passover the 14th would be Thursday, and since as we read from the Old Testament that the Passover Lamb was to be presented 4 days before the Passover, this again proves the connection of Jesus to the Passover.

Matthew 21:1 And when they drew nigh unto Jerusalem, and were come to Bethphage, unto the mount of Olives, then sent Jesus two disciples,

2 Saying unto them, Go into the village over against you, and straightway ye shall find an ass tied, and a colt with her: loose them, and bring them unto me.

3 And if any man say ought unto you, ye shall say, The Lord hath need of them; and straightway he will send them.
4 All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying,

5 Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.

6 And the disciples went, and did as Jesus commanded them,

7 And brought the ass, and the colt, and put on them their clothes, and they set him thereon.

8 And a very great multitude spread their garments in the way; others cut down branches from the trees, and strowed them in the way.

9 And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest.

Mark 11:1 And when they came nigh to Jerusalem, unto Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount of Olives, he sendeth forth two of his disciples,

2 And saith unto them, Go your way into the village over against you: and as soon as ye be entered into it, ye shall find a colt tied, whereon never man sat; loose him, and bring him.

3 And if any man say unto you, Why do ye this? say ye that the Lord hath need of him; and straightway he will send him hither.

4 And they went their way, and found the colt tied by the door without in a place where two ways met; and they loose him.

5 And certain of them that stood there said unto them, What do ye, loosing the colt?

6 And they said unto them even as Jesus had commanded: and they let them go.

7 And they brought the colt to Jesus, and cast their garments on him; and he sat upon him.

8 And many spread their garments in the way: and others cut down branches off the trees, and strowed them in the way.

9 And they that went before, and they that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna; Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord:

10 Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest.

11 And Jesus entered into Jerusalem, and into the temple: and when he had looked round about upon all things, and now the eventide was come, he went out unto Bethany with the twelve.

Note here, we read the first mention that Jesus spent the part of the day in the Temple.

Luke 19: 28 And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to Jerusalem.

29 And it came to pass, when he was come nigh to Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount called the mount of Olives, he sent two of his disciples,

30 Saying, Go ye into the village over against you; in the which at your entering ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: loose him, and bring him hither.

31 And if any man ask you, Why do ye loose him? thus shall ye say unto him, Because the Lord hath need of him.

32 And they that were sent went their way, and found even as he had said unto them.

33 And as they were loosing the colt, the owners thereof said unto them, Why loose ye the colt?

34 And they said, The Lord hath need of him.

35 And they brought him to Jesus: and they cast their garments upon the colt, and they set Jesus thereon.

36 And as he went, they spread their clothes in the way.

37 And when he was come nigh, even now at the descent of the mount of Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen;

38 Saying, Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest.

39 And some of the Pharisees from among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples.

40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.

41 And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,

42 Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.

43 For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,

44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

If the Passover Sacrifice is meant to be a type of Christ, then this mention by Jesus in verse 44, that Jerusalem did not know the time of their visitation, this must be a reference to the Presentation of the Passover Lamb, the sacrifice provided by God to be the sacrifice for sin and atonement. This again points to Palm Sunday as being the 10th of Nisan.

The next references to Jesus in the Bible, concern Christ teaching in the temple. Christ did return to Bethany after His first entry into Jerusalem, but He returned each day and taught in the Temple.

Christ’s presentation to the people would have lasted 4 days, from Sunday to Wednesday, to then be killed on the day before the Passover if the Passover truly was a type of Christ. That means that Christ would have been killed on the 13th, the day of preparation, just like the Passover Lamb, in the afternoon of the 13th, so the Jewish people could begin the Passover in the evening of the 14th beginning at sundown. This would account for the 4 days of the Passover Lamb being presented to the people: the 10th as the day of preparation, the 11th and 12th, then the 13th, the day the Lamb is slain for the Passover. Is this what the Bible teaches?

Jesus and His disciples ate the Passover meal the day before the Passover. The Disciples and Jesus were still in Bethany 2 days before the Passover. That would be the 12th. While there, Jesus was anointed by Mary (John 12:3). Jesus told His Disciples to go into the city of Jerusalem to a certain house:

Matthew 26:17 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?

18 And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples.

19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

20 Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve.

Mark 14: 16 And his disciples went forth, and came into the city, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.

17 And in the evening he cometh with the twelve.
Some have said that Jesus was slain on the Passover day itself, but the Bible does not teach this. In Matthew 26, we read:

Matthew 26:1 And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings, he said unto his disciples,

2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.

3 Then assembled together the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders of the people, unto the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas,

4 And consulted that they might take Jesus by subtlety, and kill him.

5 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar among the people.

6 Now when Jesus was in Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper,

7 There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat.

Mark 14:1 After two days was the feast of the passover, and of unleavened bread: and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death.

2 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar of the people.

3 And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head.

Luke 22:1 Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.

2. And the chief priests and scribes sought how they might kill him; for they feared the people.

The Pharisees made it clear: Jesus was NOT to be killed on the feast day, the Passover, the 14th. That means Jesus had to be killed before the 14th.

With the coming of the evening, that would be a new day, the 13th, the Day of preparation, the day before the Passover, which was on the 14th. It would have been this evening that Jesus was betrayed by Judas, apprehended by the Romans, and placed on trial.

Christ’s trial lasted that night and into the morning, when at first light, He was brought before Pilate. Pilate had a habit of pardoning prisoners for the Passover Holiday:

Matthew 27: 15 Now at that feast the governor was wont to release unto the people a prisoner, whom they would.

Mark 15:6 Now at that feast he released unto them one prisoner, whomsoever they desired.

Luke 23: 16 I will therefore chastise him, and release him.

17 (For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)

John 19: 10 Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?

11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar’s friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.

13 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha.

14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.

16 Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.

17 And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:

18 Where they crucified him, and two others with him, on either side one, and Jesus in the midst.

It is clear, then, that Jesus was crucified on the day before Passover, and that would be the 13th. This is again confirmation that Jesus died on the Day of Preparation in the account of Jesus Burial:

MARK 15:42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,

43 Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.

44 And Pilate marvelled if he were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead.

45 And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph.

LUKE 23:50 And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counsellor; and he was a good man, and a just:

51 (The same had not consented to the counsel and deed of them;) he was of Arimathaea, a city of the Jews: who also himself waited for the kingdom of God.

52 This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.

53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.

54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

John 19: 31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away…..

41 Now in the place where he was crucified there was a garden; and in the garden a new sepulchre, wherein was never man yet laid.

42 There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews’ preparation day; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand.

The Conclusion here must be, then, that Jesus was Crucified on the 13th of the month, before the Passover Holy Day began.

Knowing all this, now, we need to examine the 3 days Christ spent in the tomb. Christ predicted He would spend 3 days in the tomb:

Matthew 12: 38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

Matthew 16:1 The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would show them a sign from heaven.

2 He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.

3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

Matthew 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

Matthew 20: 17 And Jesus going up to Jerusalem took the twelve disciples apart in the way, and said unto them,

18 Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death,

19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.

Mark 8: 31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

Luke 11: 29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

30 For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation.

31 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation, and condemn them: for she came from the utmost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.

32 The men of Nineveh shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

The story of Jonas is the story of Jonah. Jonah was sent by God to pronounce judgment on the city of Nineveh. Jonah refused to go, and tried to escape by ship. God sent a storm and the ships crew realized that Jonah was the reason for the storm. When Jonah admitted he was running from God, the crew reluctantly threw him overboard, where a great fish swallowed Jonah. According to Jonah’s testimony, Jonah was dead and in Hades, crying out to God:

Jonah 1: 17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

2:1 Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish’s belly,

2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.

3 For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me.

4 Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple.

5 The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.

6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

7 When my soul fainted within me I remembered the LORD: and my prayer came in unto thee, into thine holy temple.

8 They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy.

9 But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD.

10 And the LORD spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.

Jonah’s statement that he went to the bottoms of the mountains and that he was brought up (his life) from corruption, indicates that Jonah was dead inside the great fish. God’s word tells us he was in the fish 3 days and 3 nights.

Christ tells us His sign to the Jews was that He would be 3 days and three nights in the tomb, and that He would be alive again.

We have already seen that Jesus Christ died on the day of preparation, the 13th, and that He was put in the tomb at evening just as the Passover was beginning. This means that Christ’s first day in the tomb would begin on the Passover Day, a High Sabbath.

Also, we read that the day after the Passover was another Sabbath known as The Feast of Unleavened Bread, and this Holiday begins on the 15th of the first month. This means that Christ’s second day in the tomb would begin on a Sabbath day, also, the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

If the Day of Preparation was Wednesday, the 13th, beginning at 6PM Tuesday Night and ending Wednesday 6PM, that means the Passover was the 14th, began Wednesday at 6PM and ended Thursday 6PM, and the Feast of Unleavened Bread began on Thursday 6PM and ended Friday at 6PM.

This only covers two days, however. The third day in the tomb must be accounted for. If we start with the day of Presentation, the 10th being Sunday, and with Passover, the 14th, being the first day in the tomb, the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the 15th being the second, the third day in the tomb would have to be the normal Sabbath day. Christ’s tomb was discovered empty on the first day of the week, Sunday, before sunrise. The three days would have been over for about 12 hours, with the third day ending on the Sabbath Day at 6PM.

This is significant. When we consider that the crucifixion happened on a Wednesday, Christ’s entire time in the tomb would have been 3 Sabbath Days! Also, when we consider that the tomb was discovered empty 12 hours after the 3rd day was over, we see that there might be another connection to the Sign of Jonas (Jonah).

When Jonah was spewed out of the fish’s mouth, he traveled a full day’s journey into the city, which was described as 3 days journey across in size. That means Jonah would have been walking about 12 hours into the city before he announced judgment. When we consider how Christ said He would give the sign of Jonah, He could have been including the Biblical reference to these 12 hours between Jonah’s journey into the city and a connection to Christ being already raised from the tomb; the similarity is interesting. Christ, in order to fulfill the prophecy that He would spend 3 days and nights in the tomb, would have His 3rd day over at 6PM Saturday night. The tomb was not discovered empty until almost 12 hours later. Jonah spent 3 days and nights in the belly of the great fish and then traveled a day’s journey into Nineveh before he announced judgment.

Another thing to consider when we look at the time period of when the tomb was discovered was that the 3rd day ended at 6PM, or sundown, the evening. To travel at night unescorted was dangerous then, especially for a woman. To travel in the early morning would be safer, for most of the people who would be considered a threat to a lone woman traveling in the dark would have been asleep. This could explain why they did not travel when the First day of the week began, for that would mean a return to their homes during the dark, when any dangerous person was around.

The Bible states the Disciples were scattered because of the trial and crucifixion of Jesus. (Matthew 26:56; Luke 23:49). Also, it might have been known to them of the guard placed at the tomb by the Romans and they were afraid to appear at the tomb lest they be arrested (Matthew 27:62-66). The Jews clearly knew what Jesus said about Him coming alive again, that’s why they placed the guard, so they could prevent the Disciples from ‘stealing’ the body and claiming a false resurrection. These factors may have been why there were no Disciples at the tomb at the time the 3rd day was over.

What I believe this all proves is that Jesus was Crucified on a Wednesday, and that for centuries Christians have been observing the wrong day for the remembrance of Christ’s death on the Cross. With the Crucifixion on Wednesday, all 3 days of Christ’s death inside the tomb were Sabbath days, with the First day being the Passover, the Second Day being the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, and the Third day being the normal Sabbath, pointing to the day Christ being Crucified on as Wednesday, not Friday.

An interesting note: The Jewish Talmud has an account of Jesus and the day of His death, that day being BEFORE the Passover meal occurred:

190. A Rabbinic view of Jesus’ Execution

It is taught:
They hanged Jesus [Yeshu] on the eve of Passover.
Now a crier went forth for forty days before this (saying):
—”He goes forth to be stoned because he practiced magic
and stirred up Israel to apostasy.
Let anyone who knows anything in his favor come forward
and speak up for him!”
But they found nothing in his favor
and they hanged him on the eve of Passover.
Ulla said:
—”Do you suppose a revolutionary had anything in his favor!”
He was an instigator [mesith] (to apostasy)
and the Merciful has said:
—’You shall not spare or conceal him!’ (Deut 13:8)”
But it was different with (Jesus), for he was near to the kingdom!
-— , 43a

[Note: this account was probably formulated to contradict Christian claims that Jews engineered Jesus’ execution without giving him a fair hearing. It agrees with the Fourth Gospel in dating Jesus’ death prior to the Passover meal. Otherwise its details are based on Jewish procedures for stoning rather than on information in the gospels.]

http://religion.rutgers.edu/iho/jesus.html#J_hanged

The list below is a short version of the Biblical timeline.
8th day of Nisan Thur 6PM To Fri 6PM Christ eats Supper with Lazarus in Bethany

9th day of Nisan Fri 6PM To Sat 6PM Sabbath Day Christ in Bethany

10th day of Nisan Sat 6PM To Sun 6PM Day of Presentation Of the LAMB Before the People, Palm Sunday

11th day of Nisan Sun 6PM To Mon 6PM

12th day of Nisan Mon 6PM To Tue 6PM ; Last Supper Of Christ,

13th day of Nisan Tue 6PM to Wed 6PM Day of Preparation. Christ Crucified The same time Passover Begins at Evening at 6pm, Killing of The LAMB,

14th day of Nisan Wed 6PM To Thur 6PM Passover. 1st day in the tomb ends at Thur 6PM

Day-1 15th day of Nisan Thur 6PM To Fri 6PM Feast of Unleavened Bread; Feast of Unleavened Bread Begins At 6PM, 2nd day in the tomb ends at Fri 6PM

Day-2 16th day of Nisan Fri 6PM To Sat 6PM Normal Sabbath;

Sabbath Begins at FRI 6PM, Ends at Sat 6PM, 3rd day in The Tomb Ends at Sat 6PM Tomb Opened Anytime After 6PM Saturday Tomb Found Empty Before Sunrise Sunday

Day-3 17th day of Nisan Sat 6PM To Sun 6PM Resurrection

4th day of NisanSun 6PM To Mon 6PM

5th day of Nisan Mon 6PM To Tue 6PM

6th day of Nisan Tue 6PM To Wed 6PM

7th day of Nisan Wed 6PM To Thur 6PM

8th day of Nisan Thur 6PM To Fri 6PM

9th day of Nisan Fri 6PM To Sat 6PM

10th day of Nisan Sat 6PM To Sun 6PM
Christ eats Supper with Lazarus in Bethany Sabbath Day Christ in Bethany Day of Presentation Of the LAMB Before the People Palm Sunday

11th day of Nisan Sun 6PM To Mon 6PM

12th day of Nisan Mon 6PM To Tue 6PM

13th day of Nisan Tue 6PM to Wed 6PM Day of Preparation

14th day of Nisan Wed 6PM To Thur 6PM Passover

Day-1 15th day of Nisan Thur 6PM To Fri 6PM Feast of Unleavened Bread

Day-2 16th day of Nisan Fri 6PM To Sat 6PM Normal Sabbath

Day-3 17th day of Nisan Sat 6PM To Sun 6PM Resurrection

Day of Preparation, Last Supper Of Christ, Killing of The LAMB, Christ Crucified The same time

Passover Begins at Evening at 6pm, 1st day in the tomb ends at Thur 6PM

Feast of Unleavened Bread Begins At 6PM, 2nd day in the tomb ends at Fri 6PM

Sabbath Begins at FRI 6PM, Ends at Sat 6PM, 3rd day in The Tomb Ends at Sat 6PM

Tomb Opened Anytime After 6PM Saturday Tomb Found Empty Before Sunrise Sunday

External references:
The Jewish Text

The Babylonian Talmud is a commentary on Jewish laws composed between A.D. 500-600 (Neusner/Green, 69) Therein is a text about Jesus’ death. The Tractate Sanhedrin (43a) contains this passage:

Jesus was hanged on Passover Eve. Forty days previously the herald had cried, “He is being led out for stoning, because he has practiced sorcery and led Israel astray and enticed them into apostasy. Whosoever has anything to say in his defense, let him come and declare it.” As nothing was brought forward in his defense, he was hanged on Passover Eve.

An analysis of this paragraph is extremely rewarding. First, one must observe that the document is written from the Jewish viewpoint; thus, as expected, is hostile to Jesus, and is defensive of Jewish jurisprudence. This makes it all the more valuable as a document for the support of Christianity.

http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1357-the-jewish-talmud-and-the-death-of-christ

Additional reference:

Talmud, b. Sanhedrin 43a: (Also Sanh. 7:4 & Sanh. 6:4 refer to His crucifixion)

”On the eve of the Passover Yeshu [Jesus] was hanged [or crucified]. … Since nothing was brought forward in his favor he was hanged on the eve of the Passover.”
http://unioncitycc.org/wordpress/?tag=talmud
Additional reference (2)

Another Jewish source, the Talmud, makes several historical references to Jesus. According to the American Heritage Dictionary, the Talmud is “the collection of ancient Rabbinic writings consisting of the Mishnah and the Gemara, constituting the basis of religious authority for traditional Judaism.” Although not explicitly referred to by name, later rabbis identify the person as Jesus. These references to Jesus are neither sympathetic to Him or His Church. Also these writings were preserved through the centuries by Jews, so Christians cannot be accused of tampering with the text.

The Talmud makes note of Jesus’ miracles. No attempt is made to deny them, but it ascribes them to magical arts from Egypt. Also His crucifixion is dated as “on the eve of the Feast of the Passover” in agreement with the Gospel (Luke 22:1ff; John 19:31ff). Similar again to the Gospel (Matt. 27:51), the Talmud records the earthquake and the tearing in two of the Temple curtain during the time of Jesus’ death. Josephus in his book, The Jewish War, also confirmed these events.

http://users.binary.net/polycarp/jesus.html


12 posted on 04/16/2011 7:50:40 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: GreenAccord

While I find such an argument to be somewhat odd and likely misguided, it is this very kind of thing that distracts Christians from what we SHOULD be doing-

All these inconsequential debates when folks are dying every day without Jesus Christ - and entering in to an eternity separated from God in perpetual torment.

I think there are FAR more important concerns (not that I am against a good-natured debate now and then, so long as it doesn’t interfere with our primary purpose).


13 posted on 04/16/2011 7:51:37 PM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: webboy45

The Sabbath was a ‘high day’(Jn.19:31), the Passover, not the Saturday.


14 posted on 04/16/2011 7:55:24 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: GreenAccord; RaceBannon
Can I ask you what difference it makes?

It makes a difference to some folks because the Seventh Day Adventists and other sabbatarian legalist cults want to believe He was crucified on a Wednesday because that would mean He had to raise again on Saturday, thus confirming (in their minds) sabbatarianism.

15 posted on 04/16/2011 7:57:25 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (What if God doesn't WANT the Gospel rescued from fundamentalism?)
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To: Drumbo

Thank you - it’s not well-known in most churches


16 posted on 04/16/2011 7:58:41 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: GreenAccord

Because Christ said he would be in the tomb three days and three nights (Matt.12:40), not 2.


17 posted on 04/16/2011 7:59:20 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: RaceBannon
Well Christ was to be in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights. So by 'sunrise' on the first day of the week, He was no longer in the tomb. Count back 3 days and 3 nights. The new day began at sunset. There is NO way that a Friday Crucifixion will add up to 3 days and 3 nights.
18 posted on 04/16/2011 7:59:51 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: GreenAccord

I am amazed at what some people will nitpick about before they even read a thread...


19 posted on 04/16/2011 8:00:04 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: wideawake; All

I finished formatting, you can read it now


20 posted on 04/16/2011 8:01:23 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: RaceBannon

While the only thing that really matters is that he died for All of Our sins so that those who accept him might be saved, I found this to be interesting. Also this gets us to thinking about the right things this time of year. http://www.centuryone.com/crucifixion.html


21 posted on 04/16/2011 8:01:36 PM PDT by Racer1
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To: TheBattman

there is nothing inconsequantial in knowing the truth, ignoring the truth has consequences, it leads people to think that truh does NOT matter because some few think truth is trivial.

truth is everything, not just a little thing.


22 posted on 04/16/2011 8:03:48 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: Racer1

It matters just a smuch that He is risen, not just that He died.

It also matters as much that it was according to the Scriptures that it all happened!

Cor 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
1Cor 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
1Cor 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Cor 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
1Cor 15:5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
1Cor 15:6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
1Cor 15:7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
1Cor 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
1Cor 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
1Cor 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which [was bestowed] upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
1Cor 15:11 Therefore whether [it were] I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.
1Cor 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
1Cor 15:13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
1Cor 15:14 And if Christ be not risen, then [is] our preaching vain, and your faith [is] also vain.


23 posted on 04/16/2011 8:06:09 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: RaceBannon
I am amazed at what some people will nitpick about before they even read a thread...

Someone posts a thread worried (yeah, worried) about if Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday or not 2,000 years ago and I proclaim HE LIVES is probably the only thing worthy of caps, and I'm the nit-picker. Ell Oh Ell.

24 posted on 04/16/2011 8:07:27 PM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: Just mythoughts

exactly. :)

I finished formatting, I thought I saaved an html version of this, my new WORD 2010 may SAVE files in html, but it wont display the code!?!


25 posted on 04/16/2011 8:09:41 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: RaceBannon
Your exhaustive timeline presumes that we know which exact Jewish year the resurrection took place and therefore what day of the Roman week the 14th of Nisan was that year.

The claim that "the Bible says Wednesday" is, under the best possible interpretation, deliberately misleading.

26 posted on 04/16/2011 8:12:15 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
It makes a difference to some folks because the Seventh Day Adventists and other sabbatarian legalist cults want to believe He was crucified on a Wednesday because that would mean He had to raise again on Saturday, thus confirming (in their minds) sabbatarianism.

Noted. I was wondering what the point of the insistence on Wednesday might be. I've not encountered that before.

Interesting.

27 posted on 04/16/2011 8:17:46 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Never argue eschatology with a crazy person.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Jesus refers to the time between His burial and resurrection according to the Jewish manner of reckoning time, any part of a day being counted as a full day.


28 posted on 04/16/2011 8:34:26 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (it is time to repent)
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To: wideawake

oh, no, not at all, if we KNOW what day the tomb was empty, we just count backwards

see? it really IS that simple, the tomb was found empty on the First day of the week, Sunday


29 posted on 04/16/2011 8:37:08 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

No, Jesus says 3 days and 3 nights, clearly, and I show that in this essay, you must not have read it


30 posted on 04/16/2011 8:38:03 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: Lee N. Field
It makes a difference to some folks because the Seventh Day Adventists and other sabbatarian legalist cults want to believe He was crucified on a Wednesday because that would mean He had to raise again on Saturday, thus confirming (in their minds) sabbatarianism.

I never heard that, but, apparently, you didnt read this either, for the 3 days are proven to be three Sabbath days, not just one Sabbath day

31 posted on 04/16/2011 8:40:07 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: RaceBannon

Sorry to hijack your thread. Honestly, I wondered what you meant by “due to bad formatting...”

You can use this web-based editor to author posts and immediately have very portable, very browser friendly HTML ready-made for you. Of course, you can’t save as you’re authoring (without copy/pasting the source out to notepad or the like), but you’ll end up with much easier to post HTML rather than MS Word converted HTML which is LOADED with MSO tags.

http://www.kevinroth.com/rte/demo.htm


32 posted on 04/16/2011 8:43:26 PM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: wideawake
Your exhaustive timeline presumes that we know which exact Jewish year the resurrection took place and therefore what day of the Roman week the 14th of Nisan was that year. The claim that "the Bible says Wednesday" is, under the best possible interpretation, deliberately misleading.

IF you can count, and given in our modern era, Sunday, is the 'first' day of the week, and Christ was NOT in the tomb when the 'sun' rose, it is NOT misleading to say the Bible's time-line would make it our named day Wednesday the 'day' of the Crucifixion. More than one place it is Written that Christ would be in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights. It is not even possible to get anywhere near this time frame IF the Crucifixion took place on what some claim happened on Friday.

33 posted on 04/16/2011 8:52:50 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: GreenAccord

dont worry

I used to be able to view a WORD doc in html formet, but using WORD 2010, I cant find the command!


34 posted on 04/16/2011 8:55:48 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: RaceBannon

I read it but you didn’t read mine. Friday , Saturday, Sunday each equal a day and a night.


35 posted on 04/16/2011 8:56:38 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (it is time to repent)
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To: RaceBannon

Did you check SAVE AS and alter the file type from DOCX to HTM?


36 posted on 04/16/2011 8:59:13 PM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: RaceBannon

who cares....


37 posted on 04/16/2011 9:07:10 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: InvisibleChurch
I read it but you didn’t read mine. Friday , Saturday, Sunday each equal a day and a night.

At that time the new day began at sun set. Sun set Friday to sun set Saturday is one day and night. Saturday sun set would begin day two, and at early what we call now Sunday morning is not a full day. In this case the days are literal 24 hour days, unlike the days of creation. So start at the time when the tomb was empty and count back 3 days and 3 nights with the understanding the days then began at sun set.

38 posted on 04/16/2011 9:09:41 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

You said: “It makes a difference to some folks because the Seventh Day Adventists and other sabbatarian legalist cults want to believe He was crucified on a Wednesday because that would mean He had to raise again on Saturday, thus confirming (in their minds) sabbatarianism.”

You are wholly wrong.


39 posted on 04/16/2011 10:37:05 PM PDT by The Watcher
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To: Just mythoughts; RaceBannon
Let's review.

The Scriptures nowhere mention Wednesday.

If our indicator is the first day of the week, Scripture tells us numerous times that Jesus would be raised on the third day. If He was raised on Sunday then Sunday is the third day, Saturday is the second day and Friday is the first day.

I would also point out that if Jesus were buried for three entire days and nights then he would have been raised on the fourth day, not the third.

I will go with the nine times Scripture tells us about the third day as opposed to the one time In the New Testament a reference is made to three days and three nights - i.e. Implying a resurrection on the fourth day.

And, if we take your methodology to the extreme and get supertechnical, it would even be a fifth day, since presumably the crucifixion, indubitably a daytime event, would have taken place on an initial day, followed by three complete days and nights - days 2, 3 and 4 - followed by a resurrection after those three days and nights had been completed, or on day 5.

40 posted on 04/16/2011 10:54:19 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
It makes a difference to some folks because the Seventh Day Adventists and other sabbatarian legalist cults want to believe He was crucified on a Wednesday because that would mean He had to raise again on Saturday, thus confirming (in their minds) sabbatarianism.

You're not even close. It makes a difference because there is a point to the day. He entered Jerusalem on the donkey fulfilling scripture to the very day.

The day he entered was the day they started inspecting the sacrificial lambs that is why he spent the days he did being inspected in the Temple .

He was crucified on the eve of Passover (which is a High Sabbath - Passover can occur on any day of the week)So what is the significance of being crucified on the eve of Passover ? That is when the Passover lambs were slain.
Want to know more about Passover ? Watch this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2643253539138354433#
All the Hebrew feast testify of Yeshua , they all have a special meaning .

41 posted on 04/16/2011 11:38:37 PM PDT by Lera
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To: wideawake
Let's review. The Scriptures nowhere mention Wednesday. If our indicator is the first day of the week, Scripture tells us numerous times that Jesus would be raised on the third day. If He was raised on Sunday then Sunday is the third day, Saturday is the second day and Friday is the first day. I would also point out that if Jesus were buried for three entire days and nights then he would have been raised on the fourth day, not the third. I will go with the nine times Scripture tells us about the third day as opposed to the one time In the New Testament a reference is made to three days and three nights - i.e. Implying a resurrection on the fourth day. And, if we take your methodology to the extreme and get supertechnical, it would even be a fifth day, since presumably the crucifixion, indubitably a daytime event, would have taken place on an initial day, followed by three complete days and nights - days 2, 3 and 4 - followed by a resurrection after those three days and nights had been completed, or on day 5.

Well IF Wednesday is considered misleading then so is the usage of Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

First, each 'new' day began at sunset. And Christ Himself said Matthew 12:39 But He answered and said unto them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

Course it does not hurt to have read and know what led up to just who it was Christ was instructing from the prior verses, but I am not going to take the time to type it out.

HERE is the 'clue' verse 40 For as Jonas was *three days* and *three nights* in the whale's belly; so (note) shall the Son of man be *three days* and *three nights* in the heart of the earth......

Now that is not a couple of hours on Friday day light, then Friday night, Saturday day, and Saturday night, and up and out of the tomb before sunrise on Sunday morning. There IS NO WAY this adds up to THREE days and THREE nights, unless liberal new budget math is the manner of counting.

Christ quoted Jonah 1:17 just in case there needed to be a base upon which time was to be calculated.... verse 17 says "Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish *three* days and *three* nights. That would be a total of 72 hours.

Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher.

2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake:

for the angel of the LORD descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it........verse 6 He is NOT here, for He is risen, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.

NOTE The Marys got there as it began to dawn, the sun was not even up yet, so there is NO counting of any part of the first day as part of the three days and three nights.

So for Christ's own WORDS to be FACT one must start at that point and count back 72 hours to get the absolute required time HE said HE would be in the tomb. That would make the beginning in the tomb near sunset on the 4th day of the week. OR on what we commonly call Wednesday evening before sunset.

I will go with the WORDS Christ Himself spoke and the resurrection did not happen on the 4th day as by Scripture when the women came to the tomb HE was NOT there.

42 posted on 04/16/2011 11:45:31 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: RaceBannon

ho hum.

More trivia.

I thought you were going to post that he didn’t die, but somehow he was taken off the cross by aliens, given IV’s to replace his dehydration, and antibiotics to stop the sepsis where he was scourged, put on a respirator to counteract his shock lung, and then filled up with enough pain killers and stimulants to go hiking by Sunday night with some of his friends.

That’s the usual conspiracy theory that goes around every easter.


43 posted on 04/17/2011 12:35:44 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Lera

“You’re not even close.”

Pardon me for butting in here, but Christ being raised on the seventh day of the week instead of the first day of the wee, is used by Sabbatarians to bolster their case against having church on Sunday. Which they say makes us who have church on the first day of the week pagans, because the pagans worshiped the sun on that day. The SDA people say also that it is the mark of the beast to have church on the first day of the week.

For those that push the Wednesday starting date what they are really doing is pushing Sabbatarianism.


44 posted on 04/17/2011 12:53:53 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: InvisibleChurch
No, the reference was to Jonah, who spent three full days and three full nights in the whale.

Mark 11 gives the timeline and Christ was crucified on Wednesday and rose sometime after 6pm Saturday.

That would give us three days and three nights according to Jewish time of 6pm-6am.

45 posted on 04/17/2011 1:08:22 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: sasportas

We know the year so by the calender we can know the day of the week that was the Passover . If we follow the scripture it is easy to figure out what day of the week it was .
The Biblical day starts at sundown not at midnight like we keep time now.


46 posted on 04/17/2011 1:28:45 AM PDT by Lera
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To: RaceBannon

Race, nobody has read it, not even you.


47 posted on 04/17/2011 1:33:56 AM PDT by DryFly
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To: Lera

Are you a Sabbatarian? Seventh Day Adventist who say we who have church on Sunday are pagans? You make the case for Saturday as if you were.


48 posted on 04/17/2011 1:34:40 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas

I am not a Protestant .
I am not a member of the Seventh Day Adventist Church.
I am a born again Christian , a Baptist , I follow the scriptures so I keep the Sabbath.

Does the day I keep change what is written in the New Testament ? Can you find one instance in the New Testament in which the the Sabbath Day was changed ?

The scriptures are clear on which day Yeshua was crucified.
It’s not that hard to figure out what day Passover falls each year.

Passover is tomorrow ... our Lamb was sacrificed TODAY


49 posted on 04/17/2011 2:40:09 AM PDT by Lera
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To: F15Eagle

The next day was an high sabbath day and passover.


50 posted on 04/17/2011 3:16:51 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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