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A Blueprint for a Monarchy in America [How Two Catholic Monarchists view the rest of us Americans]
The Altar and Throne Monarchy Site ^ | December 19, 2008 | Nick

Posted on 05/03/2011 12:17:26 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

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To: Rashputin

Hmmm... I wonder why they aren’t on that thread.


101 posted on 05/03/2011 3:32:03 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: Gamecock

Read your history. Hitler had no religious faith. He reluctantly put up with those around him who were pagans. But NAZI Germany was mostly Protestant.

The belief that Hitler was Catholic is willfully ignorant.


102 posted on 05/03/2011 3:33:51 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Shemp was the Fourth Stooge of the Apocalypse.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

I have to say, that yopios graphic is a classic, and, although I may not agree with what he wrote on that post, he seems to be a very good writer.


103 posted on 05/03/2011 3:34:22 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: Gamecock
"Read your history. Hitler was a Roman Catholic."

No, you should read your history. You are looking through the wrong end of the microscope.

Like many of the more malicious posters in the Religion Forum, Hitler left the Church at an early age and pursued a darker belief system. He never looked back.

Now take a look at the composition and doctrines of the German Protestant Church that was rewarded with the Cabinet Level office of Reichbishop for their active support of Nazi policies. You might also want to look at the numbers of Catholic clergy who were exterminated in concentration camps at the same time.

104 posted on 05/03/2011 3:35:38 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Gamecock

Reading is Fundamental

105 posted on 05/03/2011 3:38:20 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Shemp was the Fourth Stooge of the Apocalypse.)
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To: Alex Murphy

The horror! If this happens, I will eat a hat of your choosing. If not (in say, ten years), you must eat any UFO I manage to dig up outside of Roswell.


106 posted on 05/03/2011 3:39:17 PM PDT by Puddleglum (dance with the horse that brung ya)
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To: sayuncledave
In his childhood, Hitler had admired the pomp of Catholic ritual and the hierarchical organisation of the clergy. Later, he drew on these elements, organizing his party along hierarchical lines and including liturgical forms into events or using phraseology taken from hymns. Because of these liturgical elements, Hitler's Messiah-like status and the ideology's all-encompassing nature, the Nazi movement is sometimes termed a "political religion".
Source Wikipedia


107 posted on 05/03/2011 3:40:09 PM PDT by Gamecock (I didn't reach the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian.)
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To: Natural Law

It’s like Whack-A-Mole around here.

We’ve gone from the article written by a couple of guys into pagentry after the royal wedding into molestation, and now Nazis!

How utterly predictable!

What next the Pope wears Prada?

Catholics are cannibals?

The Virgin wasn’t as holy as that sodomite, Calvin?

It’s boring. This place is as intellectually stimulating as a trip to Jersy City.


108 posted on 05/03/2011 3:40:18 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: sayuncledave
In his childhood, Hitler had admired the pomp of Catholic ritual and the hierarchical organisation of the clergy. Later, he drew on these elements, organizing his party along hierarchical lines and including liturgical forms into events or using phraseology taken from hymns. Because of these liturgical elements, Hitler's Messiah-like status and the ideology's all-encompassing nature, the Nazi movement is sometimes termed a "political religion".
Source Wikipedia


109 posted on 05/03/2011 3:40:18 PM PDT by Gamecock (I didn't reach the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian.)
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To: Gamecock

“I’m outraged.
They should have their private parts cut off, a millstone tied around their necks and tossed into the ocean.”

You act like you’re shocked. You never knew there were Protestant Pedophiles?


110 posted on 05/03/2011 3:41:09 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: sayuncledave; Gamecock
Feel free to show that irrefutable proof, now. ;)

I'm still waiting for the proof for this statement in post 49:

Just like Roman Catholics on FR who blame sexually abused children for the abuse they suffered by by priests.

111 posted on 05/03/2011 3:43:37 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: Jeff Chandler
What's your point?
He tried to take Hitler out and died in an SS camp.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer (February 4, 1906 – April 9, 1945) was a German Lutheran pastor, theologian and martyr. He was also a participant in the German resistance movement against Nazism and a founding member of the Confessing Church. His involvement in plans by members of the Abwehr (the German Military Intelligence Office) to assassinate Adolf Hitler resulted in his arrest in April 1943 and his subsequent execution by hanging in April 1945, 23 days before the Nazis' surrender. His view of Christianity's role in the secular world has become very influential. Source

112 posted on 05/03/2011 3:45:10 PM PDT by Gamecock (I didn't reach the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian.)
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To: Gamecock

The Gnostics claim Hitler as one of their own...
http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/What%20is%20a%20Gnostic.htm

Not sure if the blogger is a “Nick” or a “Joe” but they’re into owning Hitler and they’re right for once.

Terrific blog. heh


113 posted on 05/03/2011 3:49:01 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: Alex Murphy

“What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy.” — James Madison


114 posted on 05/03/2011 3:49:38 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: WPaCon; Gamecock
"I'm still waiting for the proof for this statement in post 49:"

They are frantically searching the "Googlesterium". It might take a while, but given enough time, and enough flexibility with standards, they will find an expert who agrees with them. It happens every day.

115 posted on 05/03/2011 3:49:38 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Gamecock

“Just like Roman Catholics on FR who blame sexually abused children for the abuse they suffered by by priests.”

Which ones? Are you making a blanket accusation or do you have proof which you would like to share.


116 posted on 05/03/2011 3:49:47 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: WPaCon
Was that post the reason for B-Chan’s zotting, or was he kicked off for posting something else?

It was one of several, all of them well-deserved IMO. His was a classic textbook case of Suicide By Mod.

In B-Chan's final week of posting, his tone changed starting with a post on losing friends over homosexual marriage. Over the next week, he would wax eloquently on the subjects of baby slapping, how liberals are more intelligent than conservatives, how "American conservatism as you have known it is a farce and a fraud", the aforementioned rant re monarchism, how "the America he knew left years ago", and how he believed Free Republic is "full of closeted homosexuals".

117 posted on 05/03/2011 3:51:19 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Dear God, whose name I do not know - thank you for my life. I forgot how BIG...thank you. Thank you.)
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To: OpusatFR
Which ones? Are you making a blanket accusation or do you have proof which you would like to share.

I remember reading it in the last year, I'm looking. And no, it is not a blanket accusation.

118 posted on 05/03/2011 3:52:46 PM PDT by Gamecock (I didn't reach the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian.)
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To: Gamecock
What's your point?

My point is that if you read source material beyond Wikipedia you might learn something about the sociology of NAZI Germany. The definitive book on Bonhoeffer goes into great detail about the religious affiliations of the NAZIs. But then actual historical knowledge tends to interfere with willfully ignorant calumnies.

119 posted on 05/03/2011 3:59:19 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Shemp was the Fourth Stooge of the Apocalypse.)
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To: Gamecock
"What's your point?.....Dietrich Bonhoeffer (February 4, 1906 – April 9, 1945) was a German Lutheran pastor, theologian and martyr."

No doubt that Bonhoffer was a saint of which there were many Protestants during the Holocaust, but you need to back away from that whole Nazi theme before you lose the little credibility you still have.

My son-in-law's uncle was a Catholic priest who miraculously survived Auschwitz. I have heard the stories first hand and seen his scars and tattoo. Estimates are that between 3 million and 5 million Catholics died in the holocaust including 50,000 Catholic clergy and religious, that is a number greater than all of the Catholic clergy in the US today.

120 posted on 05/03/2011 4:03:11 PM PDT by Natural Law
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