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Looking For A True Church To Call Home
6/21/11 | Me

Posted on 06/21/2011 3:51:29 PM PDT by NoGrayZone

Okay, here's the deal in a long story short. I was raised Lutheran, moved out to Long Island and continued to be raised in St. Paul's Lutheran Church.

Aunt Jeannie (my name sake) has been a member since. I decided years ago I wanted back, so I went.

I did not feel Him there, thought it was me. I kept looking around the congregation, thinking it was me. After a while, I realized it wasn't (a couple of things happened after that confirmed it wasn't me).

Anywho, the icing on the cake was my Aunt Jeannie stopped going as well. After almost 30 years she felt the change as well. I looked up our church and saw they were apart of the "accept homosexuals as Pastors" crowd. That was 1 of the things that confirmed it was not me.

But my Aunt Jeannie leaving was the icing on the cake.

Here's our delima. Both of us are July babies. She is the 2nd, I am the 18th. We decided on 7/17 we would find a church to attend (we both want one to belong to and believe in), then go have brunch to discuss.

She is much more open minded than I am, but I promised her I would be open minded, if just for an hour, on that day.

I said to her, during our conversation "how do we know if the "Pastor" is a homo or not. She believes He is with us no matter where we are. I agree....to a point. I don't believe a homosexual can be one of His Shepard's leading His herd if that is so.

There have been so many "demoninations" coming out for homosexual "Shepard's" I have NO idea where to begin.

I have called a few churches and left messages for the Pastor to call back so I can interview Him (no lady Pastors for me).

Any advise to where we can look? Anyone know anything about Presbyterians?


TOPICS: Ecumenism; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Worship
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We just want a Holy Temple that is Bible based, so we can worship Him, as He should be.
1 posted on 06/21/2011 3:51:31 PM PDT by NoGrayZone
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To: NoGrayZone

Try a Southern Baptist church. It is what you are looking for.


2 posted on 06/21/2011 3:55:20 PM PDT by texmexis best
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To: NoGrayZone; Charles Henrickson; lightman

You must have been part of the ELCA Lutheran Synod. I left them years ago. The LCMS and WELS continue to be doctrine-based confessional Lutheran Synods. I’d suggest looking there. Charles Henrickson and lightman are Lutheran pastors. Charles with LCMS, lightman in a congregation that has recently separated from ELCA.

I know there are other ELCA congregations that have formed their own synod, but I’m not familiar enough to direct you that way. You may want to contact those two FReeper gentlemen.


3 posted on 06/21/2011 3:55:29 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: NoGrayZone

Long ago, wandering in the desert is how a promised land was found.


4 posted on 06/21/2011 3:55:41 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: NoGrayZone

We invite both you and your Aunt Jeannie to the One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

Call a priest at a church near you and go sit down with him and get your questions answered.

God bless you on your journey.


5 posted on 06/21/2011 3:55:53 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NoGrayZone

Mass Times  

Find A Catholic Church anywhere in the World.

6 posted on 06/21/2011 3:58:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: texmexis best

Wow, I just googled Southern Baptist Churches in Suffolk and found only 2!

That road is sure crooked and unlit!


7 posted on 06/21/2011 3:59:12 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: Salvation

I’m sorry, I don’t want to step on any toes, but the Catholic religion just doesn’t cut it.

Again, sorry, no dis intended but the Catholic Church is out for us.


8 posted on 06/21/2011 4:01:53 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone

Personally, I wouldn’t belong to any club that would have someone like me as a member. That being said, God is wherever two or more are gathered in His name. Also, don’t look for somewhere you can “get” look for somewhere you can serve. In that place you will find God everywhere and your personal “cup” will overflow. Btw, what city, I might know somewhere you can visit.


9 posted on 06/21/2011 4:02:04 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Its going to take a lots of prayer and visits to find the right church for you.


10 posted on 06/21/2011 4:02:40 PM PDT by Nashvegas (What do you get if you offer a liberal a penny for their thoughts? Change)
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To: NoGrayZone
Am I miss where you are from? In the Denver area - Journey Church
In the LA area - Southlands
In Houston area - Harvest International
In the Sacramento area - Westside
11 posted on 06/21/2011 4:02:48 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: NoGrayZone

I would strongly recommend you an evangelical church. I grew up Catholic and in my late 20’s I felt that there had to be a better way to worship. Less ceremonial, more heart felt. I also had issues with some Catholic dogma. My husband-to-be invited me to his church, a Southern Baptist church and it was all I was looking for. No female or homo pastor, no counting on anything but Scripture... I’ve been married 23 years and I attend church Sunday morning, Sunday evening and Wednesday evening. I teach an adult Sunday school class, and just last week I was teaching a class in Bible School. If you can, find a Southern Baptist church, if that’s not possible find an evangelical church. And God bless you!


12 posted on 06/21/2011 4:03:41 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: NoGrayZone

**There have been so many “demoninations” coming out for homosexual “Shepard’s” I have NO idea where to begin.**

NOT with the Catholic Church!


13 posted on 06/21/2011 4:03:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: OldNavyVet

I guess we have to “wander” to many to find the One. I wish I were a better person, perhaps He would just tell me where to go.


14 posted on 06/21/2011 4:04:43 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone
This is destined to become a heated topic so I'll just state that perhaps you might consider the church of Christ. The lowercase 'c' is intentional and it certainly is NOT related in any way, shape or form to the liberal United Church of Christ.

Each congregation of the church of Christ is autonomous so there will be variations. Overall, though, my experience is that most are very Conservative (both in terms of Christianity and politically). The services are traditional, strongly Bible-based and I've never heard a coC preacher advocate anything like the heretical "social gospel".

I'll also add that back in the summer of 2008 (when the presidential campaign was in full swing), I had the chance to take a prolonged vacation by car through the South and Midwest. While doing so, I stopped at different church of Christ congregations (all the way from Lubbock, TX up to Bloomington, IL and points in between) for both Wednesday and Sunday services. I never saw even one Obama sticker on any car in the parking lots.

15 posted on 06/21/2011 4:05:15 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Suffolk County, Long Island, NY.


16 posted on 06/21/2011 4:06:00 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone

You are right to search for a Bible based church. Read for yourself the gospel of John. That book tells us Jesus is the Word. Jesus is the one sent by God. Jesus came that we may know God. The only path to God is through Jesus. Therefore, look for a Christ centered church. God bless you in your search and may he bless you forever with a great faith in him and in the one he sent.

cw


17 posted on 06/21/2011 4:06:29 PM PDT by pudge
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To: NoGrayZone
Bible based?

A Biblical Walk Through the Mass (Book Review) [Ecumenical]

A Biblical Walk Through the Mass (Book): Understanding What We Say and Do In The Liturgy

18 posted on 06/21/2011 4:06:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: svcw

Suffolk County, Long Island, NY.


19 posted on 06/21/2011 4:06:57 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone
I don't believe a homosexual can be one of His Shepard's leading His herd if that is so.

True. We all sin, but someone who is unrepentant and secure in his vile sin like that should never be allowed into leadership of any kind in a congregation. God hates sodomy and destoryed cities for it. Such leaders who think it is ok are not good for the flock. By accpeting sodomy or other such sins as ok they have shown their true colors: that they do not see God's word as trustworthy and authoratative. Thus they are unfit to teach from God's word.

Personally (if you are interested), our family goes to a Messianic Jewish congregation and follow Jesus (Hebrew: Yeshua) and still celebrate all God's Biblical festivals.

20 posted on 06/21/2011 4:07:55 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: NoGrayZone

I was raised Lutheran and went to Lutheran Concordia grade school. I am currently a Baptist and have been sincde the 70s. The church you want does not have to be “southern” Baptist but a church that believes in a person being saved by the blood of the Lamb. The words are there in a Lutheran church but the idea that a person can be baptized as the infant into the church is false doctrine. I became a believer and was baptized but that did not save me. My salvation comes in the my relationship with Jesus after I asked him into my life and forgiveness for my sins. Everything changed after that and I studied the Bible to find the truth. I believe the Baptists are the closest to the true meaning of the Bible. It is wonderful to have a group of believers to worship with.


21 posted on 06/21/2011 4:08:09 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: Former Fetus

Thank you!!! As I posted earlier, there seem to be only 2 Southern Baptist Chuches here in Suffolk.

I tend to “sway” from evangelical because that is what my former Lutheran Church states it is....which it IS NOT!


22 posted on 06/21/2011 4:09:38 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone

I am a Catholic, so my recommendation may surprise you:

If you cannot think about a Catholic parish, look for a Southern Baptist Church. I am very impressed with, and love, a lot of Southern Baptists, including my dear son-in-law and a few relatives.

Just my two cents.


23 posted on 06/21/2011 4:11:25 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: NoGrayZone

How’s about Eastern Orthodoxy? We have priests that are allowed to be married;-) If you choose to explore Orthodoxy, you might feel more comfortable at a church that belongs to the Orthodox Church of America (www.oca.org) or an Antiochian Orthodox church (www.antiochian.org) We do most of our services in English, since some “ethnic” Orthodox churches do much of the Liturgy in their “native” language. My cousin is an OCA priest at a church on Long Island...and he’s conservative!


24 posted on 06/21/2011 4:11:38 PM PDT by toothfairy86
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To: NoGrayZone

Well, this city, county and state more than make up for that. In my neck of the woods I can get to at least 3 within a few minutes. I go to the largest one which takes about 3 minutes to get to.


25 posted on 06/21/2011 4:13:04 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: NoGrayZone

Worth giving it a try! You will be in my prayers!


26 posted on 06/21/2011 4:14:19 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: pudge

Thank you for your kind words. So many I have spoke with in regards to our search have just “poopoo’ed” us.

We know what we want and we’ll know when we find it. I just thought I would ask so we could find His house sooner, rather than later.


27 posted on 06/21/2011 4:14:39 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone

I recommend prayer. Ask God to send you to where He knows is best for you and for furthering His will on earth. Then be patient. He will answer your prayer.


28 posted on 06/21/2011 4:21:03 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: NoGrayZone

Nationally the Southern Baptists are the second largest church in America.


29 posted on 06/21/2011 4:21:28 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: NoGrayZone

Church of Christ.


30 posted on 06/21/2011 4:21:36 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: NoGrayZone

I am not Lutheran, but have family members that are. As someone mentioned, try one of the conservative branches of the Lutheran church, maybe Missouri Synod. I would not branch out to denominations that are not close in activity, liturgy, belief, etc. to your former church.

For example, S. Baptists don’t have confirmations, you would miss that. You would miss the liturgy, but Catholicism would be too much.

Hope you find what you are searching for. (stay away from Methodists and Episcopalians. They have “gay” disease, too)


31 posted on 06/21/2011 4:21:41 PM PDT by madison10
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To: NoGrayZone

Have you prayed about it?


32 posted on 06/21/2011 4:21:59 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: NoGrayZone

http://www.nazarene.org/


33 posted on 06/21/2011 4:23:28 PM PDT by Grunthor
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To: NoGrayZone
I wish I were a better person, perhaps He would just tell me where to go

Remember, the Good Shepherd goes out looking for the lost sheep, he doesn't stay behind with those sheep who aren't lost! Seek Him with all your heart and you'll find Him.

34 posted on 06/21/2011 4:24:19 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: NoGrayZone
I was raised in a Bible-based Lutheran church that through a series of mergers eventually became the apostate ELCA. That was when we left. We are happily members of a wonderful Lutheran Church MISSOURI Synod, which is also Biblically based and no more gay marriage and no more abortion. It's strictly following the word of God. I wish you could come to our church.

Pay attention to Freeper Charles Henrickson, he will guide you.

35 posted on 06/21/2011 4:25:35 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: NoGrayZone

PCA Presbyterian....close to traditional Catholic...but not...DO NOT attempt PCUSA Presbyterian....same as what you are leaving.


36 posted on 06/21/2011 4:27:14 PM PDT by goodnesswins (...both islam and the democrat plantation thrive on poverty)
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To: NoGrayZone

Try the evangelical Anglicans that broke off from the Episcopalians about ten years ago—probably call themselves something like Christ Anglican Church in your neck of the woods.


37 posted on 06/21/2011 4:27:48 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: NoGrayZone

I was Lutheran and a Lutheran Pastor’s Wife ... then raised my kids Assembly of God [after divorce] ... [mistake, but another tale].

As a Lutheran parochial school graduate, I ‘knew’ that The Catholic Church was ‘anathema.’ All my life I had questioned Sunday School teachers, my pastor husband, and Bible teachers what the ‘elementary teachings’ mentioned in Hebrews 6:1-3 were. I’d first read those verses as a pre-teen. No one in the Lutheran or Assembly of God churches could give me a satisfactory answer.

So, as a 46 year old woman, I decided to find out. I picked up a book of writings from Early Christianity, men who either directly knew the Apostles or knew the men who knew the Apostles ... I read the Didache, Justin Martyr, Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Tertullian, Origen, Gregory of Nazianzus, Jerome, etc, and after reading and praying I accepted that Luther made a major error in judgment when he put those 99 Theses on the Church door ... and he decimated the Holy Bible to top it off because the books he didn’t particularly want in ‘his’ Bible were those which supported The Church and not ‘his’ agenda. Even Scripture doesn’t support ‘sola scriptura.’ Luther wanted the Epistle of James AND Revelation removed from his Bible, too because they didn’t support his agenda of ‘sola fide.’

Those “elementary teachings” that Hebrews doesn’t ‘re-teach’ because Christians already knew what they were ... are the teachings and traditions of The Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. I either had to reject knowing that or accept it as fact and follow ‘St Peter to Rome.’ I was confirmed into the Catholic Church on Easter Vigil 1992 and it was the defining moment in my faith life.

Please pick up Scott Hahn’s book “Rome Sweet Home: Our Journey to Catholicism” and read it before you dismiss Catholicism.


38 posted on 06/21/2011 4:27:53 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (I am a Catholic, A US Citizen, A Patriot, A TEA Partier, An Oath Keeper, A Voter, An Auburn Fan!)
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To: madison10
S. Baptists don’t have confirmations, you would miss that

No, we "rededicate" ourselves to our Savior. As a former Catholic, all I remember about my confirmation was the oil dripping down my nose and a nun fussing that it would be a sin to touch the oil. I rededicated my life about 10 years ago as a Southern Baptist, and it turned my life upside down for the best.

39 posted on 06/21/2011 4:28:21 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: NoGrayZone

I recommend sermonaudio.com!
Use their “church finder” for your area. Listen to sermons heard at those churches.
If it peaks your curiosity,drop me a line and I’ll share some of my favorites.
I hesitate to label myself, as we were in the military and have attended all kinds of churches. I just know what my heart longed for, and where I found it.


40 posted on 06/21/2011 4:28:30 PM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: NoGrayZone

A Lutheran in our area, decided she wanted to leave her church several years ago. She started going down the street, visiting all the churches.

When she got to our Catholic Church she knew she was home and entered the RCIA class.

You say your aunt is more open. I think you and your aunt might try the same technique. You won’t be disappointed.

Blessings to both of you.


41 posted on 06/21/2011 4:29:32 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Ugh, I hate to to do this....but I feel I must. We have recently (these past few days) lost a family friend of over 20 years. She was 37, 4 small children.

She was Catholic. That is where the Mass was. I quote this in exact content:

“Communion Procession: Catholics sacramentally prepared to receive Holy Communion are now invited to come forward.”

I pointed it out to Aunt Jeannie. She said we could just get a blessing, instead of Christ’s body. I said it was wrong and if I’m going up there, I’m getting Christ’s body. I then pointed out to her what I have just stated above.

She said “That is wrong. We are ALL Christ’s child”. So I said “let’s go up and receive His body in His name, not just some meaningless “blessing”.

She agreed. We both went up and received Christ’s body, as a non-Catholic, as DEEMED according to their “law”.

She, nor I are rebels, but we strongly believe NO MAN can tell us we are not a child of Christ and do NOT deserve His body as Communion.


42 posted on 06/21/2011 4:29:54 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone

Evangelical means “preaching the gospel”. You should feel at home as a Missouri Synod Lutheran, but wherever God leads you find a church that puts the Bible first!


43 posted on 06/21/2011 4:31:32 PM PDT by netguide (Use this browser instead of Internet Exploder)
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To: NoGrayZone

The Most High does not dwell in buildings made by human hands. (Acts 7:48) The true worshippers of God worship Him in Spirit and Truth. (John 4) Worship is not a matter of location, but of relation. You must be born again. (John 3).
If you know Him, you are Christ’s temple. (I Corinthians 3:16-17), and you have eternal life. (I John 5:11-13)


44 posted on 06/21/2011 4:31:32 PM PDT by Judges Gone Wild
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To: Bryan24

Presuming you mean the same as I referenced a few posts back, good to run into another “dunkin’ Campbellite” here on FR! :-)


45 posted on 06/21/2011 4:32:51 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: NoGrayZone

** She said we could just get a blessing, instead of Christ’s body.**

Your aunt was correct. You needed to go forward for a blessing and prayer.


46 posted on 06/21/2011 4:33:40 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NoGrayZone

Check out the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA).

Do NOT check out the PCUSA (they are liberal)


47 posted on 06/21/2011 4:34:25 PM PDT by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: Former Fetus

Thanks =)!!


48 posted on 06/21/2011 4:34:37 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone

The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod does not belong to the National Council of Churches, which is poison. We are opposed to homosexuality and abortion and NO women pastors.


49 posted on 06/21/2011 4:34:46 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: NoGrayZone

I’ll pray for both of you. Please talk with a priest about this.


50 posted on 06/21/2011 4:35:14 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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