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Know Mormons' beliefs before voting for them
WyomingTribuneEagle ^ | July 9, 2011 | Dion Clark

Posted on 07/16/2011 7:24:33 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

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To: reaganaut

“Joseph Smith predicted that the time would come when the Constitution would hang, as it were, by a thread, and at that time ‘this people will step forth and save it from the threatened destruction.’... [Then] the Elders of Israel [i.e., LDS leaders], widely spread over the nation, will at that crucial time successfully rally the righteous of our country and provide the necessary balance of strength to save the institutions of constitutional government.”
- Prophet Ezra Taft Benson, Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, 1988, p. 619

[Joseph Smith] foresaw the time when the destiny of the nation would be in danger and would hang as by a thread. Thank God he did not see the thread break. He also indicated the important part that this people should yet play in standing for the principles embodied in these sacred documents – the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.”
- Prophet Ezra Taft Benson, Conference Report, April 1948, p. 85

“[Joseph Smith] foresaw the time when the destiny of the nation would be in danger and would hang as by a thread. Thank God he did not see the thread break. He also indicated the important part that this people should yet play in standing for the principles embodied in these sacred documents – the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.”
- Prophet Ezra Taft Benson, Conference Report, April 1948, p. 85

“… the Lord told the Prophet Joseph Smith there would be an attempt to overthrow the country by destroying the Constitution. Joseph Smith predicted that the time would come when the Constitution would hang, as it were, by a thread, and at that time ‘this people will step forth and save it from the threatened destruction…. It is my conviction that the elders of Israel, widely spread over the nation will at that crucial time successfully rally the righteous of our country and provide the necessary balance of strength to save the institutions of constitutional government.”
- Prophet Ezra Taft Benson, Conference Report, October 1961, p. 70

“The Prophet Joseph Smith said the time would come when the Constitution would hang as it were by a thread. Modern-day prophets for the last thirty years have been warning us that we have been rapidly moving in that direction. Fortunately, the Prophet Joseph Smith saw the part the elders of Israel would play in this crisis.”
- Prophet Ezra Taft Benson, Conference Report, April 1963, p. 113

“The Prophet Joseph Smith said the time would come when the Constitution would hang as it were by a thread. Modern-day prophets for the last thirty years have been warning us that we have been rapidly moving in that direction. Fortunately, the Prophet Joseph Smith saw the part the elders of Israel would play in this crisis. Will there be some of us who won’t care about saving the Constitution, others who will be blinded by the craftiness of men, and some who will knowingly be working to destroy it? He that has ears to hear and eyes to see can discern by the Spirit and through the words of God’s mouthpiece that our liberties are being taken.”
- Prophet Ezra Taft Benson, Conference Report, April 1963, p. 113

“Thank God for the Constitution. And may God bless the elders of Israel that when, as President John Taylor said, ‘the people shall have torn to shreds the Constitution of the United States, the Elders of Israel will be found holding it up to the nations of earth and proclaiming liberty.’”
- Prophet Ezra Taft Benson, “Jesus Christ – Gifts and Expectations, New Era, May 1975, p. 19

“The Lord told the Prophet Joseph Smith there would be an attempt to overthrow the country by destroying the Constitution. Joseph Smith predicted that the time would come when the Constitution would hang, as it were, by a thread, and at that time “this people will step forth and save it from the threatened destruction” (Journal of Discourses, 7:15). It is my conviction that the elders of Israel, widely spread over the nation, will at that crucial time successfully rally the righteous of our country and provide the necessary balance of strength to save the institutions of constitutional government.
If the Gentiles on this land reject the word of God and conspire to overthrow liberty and the Constitution, their doom is fixed, and they “shall be cut off from among my people who are of the covenant” (1 Nephi 14:6; 3 Nephi 21:11, 14, 21; D&C 84:114-15, 117). (God, Family, Country, p. 345.)

As we spread abroad in this land, bearers of this priesthood, men and women with high ideals and standards, our influence will spread as we take positions of leadership in the community, in the state, in the nation, in the world. We will be able to sit in counsel with others and we will be able to influence others in paths of righteousness. We will help to save this nation, because this nation can only be preserved on the basis of righteous living.”
- Prophet Ezra Taft Benson, Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, pp. 618-619

“It is no wonder that the Prophet Joseph said—even though he knew he would suffer martyrdom in this land—‘The Constitution of the United States is a glorious standard; it is founded in the wisdom of God. It is a heavenly banner.’

Yet, according to his contemporaries, he foresaw the time when the destiny of the nation would be in danger and would hang as by a thread. Thank God he did not see the thread break. He also indicated the important part that this people should yet play in standing for the principles embodied in these sacred documents—the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.”
- Prophet Ezra Taft Benson, Conference Report, April 1948, p. 85

“Eleventh: In connection with attack on the United States, the Lord told the Prophet Joseph Smith there would be an attempt to overthrow the country by destroying the Constitution. Joseph Smith predicted that the time would come when the Constitution would hang, as it were, by a thread, and at that time ‘this people will step forth and save it from the threatened destruction.’ (Journal History, Brigham Young’s Speech, July 4, 1854.)

It is my conviction that the elders of Israel, widely spread over the nation will at that crucial time successfully rally the righteous of our country and provide the necessary balance of strength to save the institutions of constitutional government.”
- Prophet Ezra Taft Benson, Conference Report, October 1961, p. 70


301 posted on 07/17/2011 11:53:18 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: reaganaut

“From time to time, accounts of various supposed visions, revelations, and prophecies are spread forth by and among the Latter-day Saints, who should know better than to believe or spread such false information. One of these false and deceptive documents that has cropped up again and again for over a century is the so-called White Horse Prophecy. This supposed prophecy purports to be a long and detailed account by the Prophet Joseph Smith concerning the wars, turmoils, and difficulties which should exist in the last days.

“It is a sad commentary on the spiritual insight of professing saints that they will generate intense interest in these supposed prophetic utterances and yet know little of and pay less attention to the volumes of true and sound prophetic writings which delineate authoritatively the course of latter-day world events. It is known by all informed gospel students that whenever revealed truth, new or old, is to be sent forth for the enlightenment of the saints and of the world, it will be announced officially and publicly by the First Presidency.

“Speaking, first of the White Horse Prophecy specifically, and then of all such false revelations in general, President Joseph F. Smith said: ‘The ridiculous story about the `red horse,’ and `the black horse,’ and `the white horse,’ and a lot of trash that has been circulated about, and printed, and sent around as a great revelation given by the Prophet Joseph Smith, is a matter that was gotten up, I understand, some ten years after the death of the Prophet Joseph Smith, by two of our brethren, who put together some broken sentences from the Prophet that they may have heard him utter from time to time, and formulated this so-called revelation out of it, and it was never spoken by the Prophet in the manner in which they have put it forth. It is simply false; that is all there is to it.

Now, these stories of revelations that are being circulated around are of no consequence, except for rumor and silly talk by persons that have no authority. The fact of the matter is simply here and this. No man can enter into God’s rest unless he will absorb the truth insofar that all error, all falsehood, all misunderstanding and misstatements, he will be able to sift thoroughly and dissolve, and know that it is error and not truth. When you know God’s truth, when you enter into God’s rest, you will not be hunting after revelations from Tom, Dick, and Harry all over the world. You will not be following the will of the wisps of the vagaries of men and their own ideas. When you know the truth, you will abide in the truth, and the truth will make you free, and it is only the truth that will free you from the errors of men, and from the falsehood and misrepresentations of the evil one, who lies in wait to deceive and to mislead the people of God from the paths of righteousness and truth. (Conf. Rep., Oct. 1918, p. 58.)”
- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.835

“[T]he kingdom of God... is to be a political institution that shall hold sway over all the earth; to which all other governments will be subordinate and by which they will be dominated.”
- LDS Historian and Seventy B.H. Roberts, The Rise and Fall of Nauvoo, 1900, p. 180

“I would like to add this in conclusion. It is said that President Brigham Young, many years ago, made this statement:
When the Constitution of the United States hangs, as it were, upon a single thread, they will have to call for Mormon elders to save it from utter destruction: and they will step forth and do it. (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, 2:182, Feb. 18, 1855.)

This is recorded in the Journal of Discourses and I presume it is accurate, but however it may be, is it not a possibility, that this Church, in its great leadership and in the power that will come to it in advocating the things that are divine and are right and true as for example the great welfare program, is not possible that when we as a nation shall have exhausted our resources—and we can well do that if we do not turn about—when we have we have reached that point is it not possible that to us will those who are not of us look for guidance and we will be held up as a people who are pointing an economic way that will mean for the economic and spiritual salvation and blessing of our people.”
- High Priest Clifford E. Young, Conference Report, April 1949, pp. 75-76

“LDS attachment to the Constitution has been further encouraged by an important oral tradition deriving from a statement attributed to Joseph Smith, according to which the Constitution would “hang by a thread” and be rescued, if at all, only with the help of the Saints. Church President John Taylor seemed to go further when he prophesied, “When the people shall have torn to shreds the Constitution of the United States the Elders of Israel will be found holding it up to the nations of the earth and proclaiming liberty and equal rights to all men” (JD 21:8). To defend the principles of the Constitution under circumstances where the “iniquity,” or moral decay, of the people has torn it to shreds might well require wisdom at least equal to that of the men raised up to found it. In particular, it would require great insight into the relationship between freedom and virtue in a political embodiment of moral agency.”
- Encyclopedia of Mormonism, v. 1, p. 1992

“We shall build the Zion of the Lord in peace untill the servants of that Lord shall begin to lay the foundation of a great and high watch Tower and then shall they begin to say within themselves, what need hath my Lord of this tower seeing this is a time of peace &c. Then the Enemy shall come as a thief in the night and scatter the servants abroad. When the seed of these 12 Olive trees are scattered abroad they will wake up the Nations of the whole Earth. Even this Nation will be on the very verge of crumbling to pieces and tumbling to the ground and when the constitution is upon the brink of ruin this people will be the Staff up[on] which the Nation shall lean and they shall bear the constitution away from the very verge of destruction.”
- “The Historians Corner,” BYU Studies, v. 19, no. 3, pp. 391-392

“The History of the Church account is an amalgamation of the reports in the Joseph Smith Diary and the Nauvoo Neighbor. The report by Levi Richards is here published for the first time. A reminiscent account of this discourse by James Burgess contains the essential details found in the other three accounts published here, and adds that the “Constitution and Government would hang by a brittle thread.”

In the month of May 1843. Several miles east of Nauvoo. The Nauvoo Legion was on parade and review. At the close of which Joseph Smith made some remarks upon our condition as a people and upon our future prospects contrasting our present condition with our past trials and persecutions by the hands of our enemies. Also upon the constitution and government of the United States stating that the time would come when the Constitution and Government would hand by a brittle thread and would be ready to fall into other hands but this people the Latter day Saints will step forth and save it.

General Scott and part of his staff on the American Army was present on the occasion.

I James Burgess was present and testify to the above (James Burgess Notebook, Church Archives).”
- Ehat and Cook, Words of Joseph Smith, 6 May 1843 Note, p. 279

“Brigham Young and other preachers are constantly inculcating in the minds of the crowded audiences who sit beneath their teachings every Sabbath that the United States is of no consequence, that it lies in ruins, and that the prophecy of Joseph Smith is being fulfilled to the letter. According to the prophecy, the United States as a nation is to be destroyed. That the Gentiles, as they call all persons outside of their church, will continue to fight with each other until they perish and then the Saints are to step in and quietly enjoy the possession of the land and also what is left of the ruined cities and desolated places. And that Zion is to be built up, not only in the valleys and the mountains but the great center of their power and glory is to be in Missouri where the Saints under the lead of their prophet were expelled many years ago.”
- Steven Harding, Utah governor, in Eugene E. Campbell, Establishing Zion: The Mormon Church in the American West, 1847-1869, 1988, p. 292

“In all the meetings that I have attended, not one word, not one prayer, has been uttered or offered up for the saving of our cause and for the restoration of peace, but on the contrary the God of the Saints has been implored to bring swift destruction on all nations, peoples, and institutions that stand in the way of the triumph of this people.”
- Steven Harding, Utah governor, in Eugene E. Campbell, Establishing Zion: The Mormon Church in the American West, 1847-1869, 1988, p. 292


302 posted on 07/17/2011 11:55:37 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: reaganaut

“[Brigham] taught followers that the governments of the earth were false and should be overthrown, that God had only delegated to the priesthood the right to set up a government. God would appoint a ruler, and all persons who otherwise pretended to have authority to govern were usurpers. Young was said to have asserted that although the Constitution of the United States was a revelation, it had fulfilled its purpose – the formation of a government so that the Mormon church could be organized. According to Young, slavery had nothing to do with the present disturbances, which were in consequence of the persecution the Saints had suffered at the hands of the American people.”
- Eugene E. Campbell, Establishing Zion: The Mormon Church in the American West, 1847-1869, 1988, p. 292

“Our government, the best government in the world, is crumbling to pieces. Those who have it in their hands are the ones who are destroying it. How long will it be before the words of the prophet Joseph will be fulfilled? He said if the Constitution of the United States were saved at all it must be done by this people. It will not be many years before these words come to pass.”
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 12, p. 204, April 8, 1868

“Joseph Smith... predicted that the time would come, ‘when the Constitution of our country would hang as it were by a thread, and that the Latter-day Saints above all other people in the world would come to the rescue.”
- Prophet Joseph F. Smith, Conference Report, October 1912, p. 11

“... if I were to guess as to how the Constitution may ‘hang by a thread’ it would be because of the immense powers given tot he President and his opportunity for their abuse. Let us... resolve that we will do all in our power to preserve these principles for our posterity. This is our duty as citizens of the United States, and pre-eminently our duty as Latter-day Saints.”
- Senator Wallace F. Bennett, Utah, BYU Speeches, February 15, 1961, p. 13

“I gave the language and sources of the prophetic utterance made by the Prophet Joseph that the Constitution of the United States would hang by a single thread, but be saved by the elders of Israel. I hope you will read those sources so you will be well-informed as to this prophecy and be prepared to do your part in its fulfillment.”
- Ernest L. Wilkinson, BYU President (1951-1971), BYU Speeches, April 21, 1966, p. 7,)

“LDS attachment to the Constitution has been further encouraged by an important oral tradition deriving from a statement attributed to Joseph Smith, according to which the Constitution would ‘hang by a thread’ and be rescued, if at all, only with the help of the Saints. Church President John Taylor seemed to go further when he prophesied, ‘When the people shall have torn to shreds the Constitution of the United States the Elders of Israel will be found holding it up to the nations of the earth.;:
- Daniel H. Ludlow, ed., Selections from Encyclopedia of MormonismS, 1995, “The Church and Society,” p. 122

“[LDS TV weatherman Thom Spencer] at a Republican rally broke with tradition that a journalist should remain objective and spoke out at the rally because of a prophecy by Joseph Smith, who founded the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints more than 150 years ago. Smith predicted that the time would come ‘when the Constitution and government would hang by a brittle thread and be ready to fall into other hands, but this people, the latter-day saints, will step forth and save it.’”
- “Weatherman’s Politics Cloud His Role on TV,” Seattle Times, November 24, 2000

“They tolerate everything that’s bad, and they’re intolerant of everything that’s good. Religious freedom is going to go down the drain, too. I’ve never seen it worse than this, where the Constitution literally is hanging by a thread.”
- Orrin Hatch, Republican Mormon Senator of Utah, “The Doug Wright Show,” (KSL) November 9, 1999

“The documents show that Joseph Smith did prophecy a number of times that the United States and the Constitution would be imperiled and that the elders would have a hand in saving them.”
- D. Michael Stewart, “I Have A Question,” Ensign, June 1976, p. 64

“... the prophet Joseph Smith did make the marvelous prediction that it is the destiny of the Latter-day Saints to some day save the Constitution of the United States.”
- Preston Nibley, LDS church historian, Deseret News, December 15, 1948; quoted in The White Horse Prophecy, 1993, p. 65

“It’s a very common belief [among Mormons] that the Constitution will hang by a thread and the Church will save it.”
- Jan Shipps, quoted in Warchol and Heilprin, “Mormon Myth Stalks Hatch to Presidential Race,” Salt Lake Tribune, Junly 15, 1999

“We have much in our national system that militates against the rise of a dictator. The Bill of Rights with its philosophy of individual rights against oppression is still a curb on a power-hungry President. But if I were to guess as to how the Constitution may “hang by a thread” it would be because of the immense powers given to the President and his opportunity for their abuse.

Let us delve once again into the great principles of the Constitution and resolve that we will do all in our power to preserve these principles for our posterity. This is our duty as citizens of the United States, and pre-eminently our duty as Latter-day Saints, because without the Constitution this glorious restoration would not have taken place in this land and might not have taken place at this point in history.”
- Senator Wallace F. Bennett, BYU Speeches, February 15, 1961, p. 13

“Our government is an organization which was to, and since has, enacted, judged and enforced law through and by legislative, judicial and executive departments. It is encumbent on the American people to steadfastly maintain the historic balance of power by the three branches of government if our political system is to be preserved. If this is not done then the thread by which it has been predicted the Constitution will hang will be clipped and our form of government will disappear. We, the American people, must not become so internationally minded as to sell our birthright for a spurious promise of world peace. The most nationally-minded people are our enemies. We must remain faithful to our pledge, regardless of charges of chauvinism, to preserve America ‘with our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.’”
- Judge Joseph E. Nelson, BYU Speeches, April 24, 1963, p. 3

“I am concerned that in our worship of materialism in our country we now have an indebtedness of over $5,000 for every man, woman, and child in this country. (This includes obligations for goods already delivered and services already rendered to the government, although payable in the future.) I am concerned that we have in effect abandoned the Monroe Doctrine as our safeguard for ultimate protection of this hemisphere, and that as a result we are threatened with Communism not only in Cuba but in South America and now in Africa as well. If the Constitution is to hang by a thread in this country, I want to be one to help to preserve it.”
- Dr. Ernest L. Wilkinson, BYU Speeches, February 18, 1964, p. 9

“In my commencement address I gave the language and sources of the prophetic utterance made by the Prophet Joseph that the Constitution of the United States would hang by a single thread, but be saved by the elders of Israel. I hope you will read those sources so you will be well-informed as to this prophecy and be prepared to do your part in its fulfillment.”
- Dr. Ernest L. Wilkinson, BYU Speeches, April 21, 1966, p. 7

“Now what has happened in our country during the time we have been plunging toward socialism? Are we actually at that point where the Constitution may be hanging by a single thread and we need to step in to save it?”
- Dr. Ernest L. Wilkinson, BYU Speeches, April 21, 1966, p. 9

“Anyone can look at the words of the Prophet Joseph Smith... Brigham Young and others.... I have always felt that they meant that sometime the question of whether we are going to proceed on the basis of the Constitution would arise and at this point government leaders who were Mormons would be involved in answering that question.”
- Duane S. Crowther, Prophetic Warnings to Modern America, 1979, pp. 315-316
http://www.ils.unc.edu/~unsworth/mormon/whitehorse.html


303 posted on 07/17/2011 11:58:22 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

stop wasting my time
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Kid youre the one who came in here to sit around and twiddle your thumbs

Its a nice day

go and play outside...

The grownups are talking...


304 posted on 07/17/2011 12:04:06 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

i am quite confident his supreme court nominees would not be sonya and kagan.
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Well no, those are not the names of the judges Romney did appoint

but the ideology was the same...


305 posted on 07/17/2011 12:06:29 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

romney can’t revert to his pro-abort feelings after running as a pro-life candidate.
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Romney ran as a pro-abortion candidate everytime he ran for anything...

During one of the early 2008 debates he gave his platform as pro-abortion..

Romney has never been pro-life...

Dont worry...

He has never had pro-life “feelings”

His pro-abort feeelings are undiluted


306 posted on 07/17/2011 12:10:19 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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It certainly seems that no matter how much evidence is presented about lds teachings or Romney's liberalism there are those that defend both at the same saying they are not lds or Romney supporters. place marker
307 posted on 07/17/2011 12:20:04 PM PDT by svcw (democrats are liars, it's a given)
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To: Tennessee Nana

great, the “grownups” will vote to help zero be reelected, sounds like a good idea to me.


308 posted on 07/17/2011 3:04:49 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

“... romney is also pro abortion, but will claim to be pro life for the general and will probably appoint conservative judges, including possible “

He didn’t do that in mass. - he appointed democrats


309 posted on 07/17/2011 4:00:50 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (This message carfully checkd to misteakes by powerful softwhere)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

so zero will start appointing pro-life judges?


310 posted on 07/17/2011 4:05:41 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

You’ve sure turned into a RINOmney Pimp - especially for a guy who says he isn’t a supporter...


311 posted on 07/17/2011 4:14:04 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (This message carfully checkd to misteakes by powerful softwhere)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

LOL! you mistake wanting to defeat zero as support for rino romney???? is mark levin a rinoromney pimp as well?


312 posted on 07/17/2011 4:16:28 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; aMorePerfectUnion
is mark levin a rinoromney pimp as well?

If Levin ever shows up and spends days pimping for Mitt Romney here at freerepublic, then yes, he will then have become what you are.

313 posted on 07/17/2011 4:36:25 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

“LOL! you mistake wanting to defeat zero as support for rino romney????”

No. It sounds as if you are ready, willing and enthusiastic about supporting RINOmney.

“is mark levin a rinoromney pimp as well?”

If he pimps RINOmney, sure.

What are you doing currently to defeat RINOmney, instead of pimping him here?


314 posted on 07/17/2011 5:13:59 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (This message carfully checkd to misteakes by powerful softwhere)
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To: starlifter
But how do you take the phrase “as loud and well organized cabal of religious bigots” to mean “Christian of all religious denominations...”?

Well; that's how MORMONism, Inc. calls 'em!

315 posted on 07/17/2011 5:15:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: starlifter
I hope you reported them to the Mods.

Is this some kind of GANG initiation?

316 posted on 07/17/2011 5:17:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Tennessee Nana
An Interview with Governor Romney,” Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought
317 posted on 07/17/2011 5:19:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Tennessee Nana
He will say anything to get elected, even moreso because he believes he is the fulfillment of a Mormon prophecy.

Romney is to Smith; as Huntsman is to Young.

318 posted on 07/17/2011 5:20:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut
They always accepted blacks as members, but blacks could not hold the LDS priesthood (which all other NON-FEMALE members do) until 1978.
319 posted on 07/17/2011 5:22:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Tennessee Nana
It is known by all informed gospel students that whenever revealed truth, new or old, is to be sent forth for the enlightenment of the saints and of the world, it will be announced officially and publicly by the First Presidency.

 

MORMON
ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY
 

  1. I’m Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you don’t!
  2. I’m Superior; I have God’s true priesthood power -- you don’t!
  3. I’m Superior; I can go in God’s secret Temple -- you can’t!
  4. I’m Superior; I’ve been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- you’re just normal!
  5. I’m Superior; I’ll have my family with me in heaven -- you’ll be with strangers!
  6. I’m Superior; I’m becoming a God -- you aren’t!
  7. I’m Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours don’t.
  8. I’m Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
  9. I’m Superior; I don’t HAVE a creed - I’ve got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. I’m Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. —                           -- You can’t.
12. I’m Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics -- 
                           -- You’re a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
15. I’m Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
17. I’m Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you don’t.
18. I’m Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you don’t ;so you can’t.
19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
20. I’m Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably                              -- You’re on your own; when you get to wherever you’re going!
21. I’m Superior; I’m going to hie to Kolob -- you’re going to who knows where.
22. I’m Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you don’t.
23. I’m Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple
                            -- You have nothing but a stupid cross.
24. I’m Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy  (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)
26.  I'm superior; I have the "higher law" -- everyone else "lives under the "lesser law' because I say so...(over and over).
 
 
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Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.
All rights liable to be abused.

320 posted on 07/17/2011 5:25:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
You're free to call them whatever you like.

To me it seems a very long and unsuccessful leap in logic.

321 posted on 07/17/2011 5:48:54 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Vigilanteman; Godzilla

Others are like you and are still stuck in the 17th century with your narrow intolerant dogmas.

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So, Salvation by grace is a ‘narrow intolerant dogma’??? LOL, that would be funny if it weren’t so sad.


322 posted on 07/17/2011 6:15:04 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

read ALL my posts and educate yourself.


323 posted on 07/17/2011 6:25:55 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: CharlesWayneCT; svcw; FastCoyote; Colofornian; greyfoxx39; aMorePerfectUnion; Godzilla; Zakeet

BTW, many mormons have questions about Reid’s true faith, given his long record of voting against the beliefs of the church; that’s one of the reasons cited for why he wasn’t winning the Mormon vote. Mormons are no more likely to vote for a “mormon in name only”

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Active Mormons (faithful) have no such illusions. Reid got a standing ovation at BYU when he spoke about how his LDS faith was the reason he voted as he did. He doesn’t vote against the teachings of the LDS church at all.

Also, faithful LDS know he is not a Mormon in name only, he does his home teaching, has callings, attends all services, has a temple recommend, which a MINO would never have or do.

Knowing Mormon culture as I do, exit polling data or not, the LDS will always vote for a Mormon over a non Mormon. I know no Mormon in NV who voted for Angle (and I know about 60 of them).

There is a freeper who wrote a book on Harry Reid and his Mormon connections in NV. Perhaps they could give you the numbers. I pinged some of the Flying Inamans who may also have the numbers handy.


324 posted on 07/17/2011 6:27:20 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Hey olofob, I read your stuff- and I got a real education of how you are eager to support Romney as soon as he wins a primary...


325 posted on 07/17/2011 6:45:48 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (This message carfully checkd to misteakes by powerful softwhere)
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To: starlifter

I don’t believe that post was addressed to you.

But now I am curious, why did it make you uncomfortable and provoke an irrational response?

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You posted it in an open forum, if you did not desire or expect a response from someone else than you should not have posted in an open forum but rather freepmail. When posting in open forum anyone can respond to any post.

You agreed with a poster calling me a bigot. Most people would not be happy with that. My response was not irrational. I asked you on what basis did you, in essence, call me a bigot. I stated my reasons for posting on these threads and my background, yet you incorrectly call me irrational.

And you did not answer my question. Are you LDS? If so, then you still have no call to agree that we are ‘bigots’. If not, then you should refrain from speaking on things you know nothing about. Either way, I guarantee I know more about Mormonism than you ever will.

Capice?


326 posted on 07/17/2011 6:47:46 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: starlifter; ansel12

You implied that Ansel said Catholics were not Christians. And it is proper FR Etiquette to ping a person when you mention them.


327 posted on 07/17/2011 6:49:54 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: ansel12

Thanks Ansel. Amazing isn’t it. Although I’m betting no response on the question.


328 posted on 07/17/2011 6:55:26 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

I would like to know the breakdown for Reid vs Angle as far as the LDS vote too. I tried to find it a few times, couldn’t find anything. I am suprised it isn’t out there considering all the speculation about what the LDS vote would be prior to the election.

Freegards


329 posted on 07/17/2011 6:59:42 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Grunthor

I never would. I know too much about them to ever put any one of them in a position of trust.

Experience teaches a person things.


330 posted on 07/17/2011 7:00:31 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut; azcap
I can't question your innuendo, gossip, and non-evidential assertions.

But I guess I could just keep posting actual links to actual articles that actually discussed whether Mormons were voting for Reid or Angle in the election last November. God knows facts can't stand up to what "you know", but anyway....

Angle's Mormon Ally: Harry Reid trampled on the LDS church:

"According to The Former Bishop, Reid has proven that he may pray like a Mormon but he does not vote like one."
...
Reid, then Senate Minority Leader, voted against having a debate on a same sex marriage ban
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the Former Bishop felt that it was Reid’s opposition to a federal same-sex marriage bill that ignited the Mormon church of Nevada to champion California’s Proposition 8, the amendment to that state’s constitution to ban gay-marriage.
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The relationship between the Mormon Church and Senator Reid has "diminished," because Reid has repeatedly, according to The Former Bishop, failed to serve as a Mormon "watchdog" over Democratic policy-making: “Why should we put someone in office who doesn’t actually represent our views?"
But you must know more than the guy the Sharon Angle campaign used to answer questions about Reid and Mormonism.

How about: Mormon Vote a Factor...:

But it is Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid , himself a Mormon, who is facing the tough questions from members of the faith.

That was apparent the moment he walked into a meeting of the Mormon Business Associates networking group in August. Members, angry with his liberal policies, peppered Reid with questions about immigration and gay marriage. They booed him, according to people who were there, and shouted catcalls.

Oh, but that can't be right, because you said the Mormons were cheering Reid, so how could this factual news story about him being booed exist?

Rallying the Mormon base won't be easy for Reid, despite his shared religion. Reid has an uneasy, sometimes contentious relationship with some members of his church. An appearance by Reid at a Mormon chapel this year had to be canceled after members expressed anger over him potentially using the venue to gather votes.
Oh, but how can that be, when you say that the "faithful LDS" know better -- who are the these unfaithful LDS people being discussed in the Deseret News?
"I don't think there's this big hate from the members toward Harry," said Cory Christensen, a Republican political consultant and LDS member whose brother Chad ran for Senate in the Republican primary. "Most people I know just disagree with him philosophically on real issues ... Some folks who are more his age that he grew up with will support him. But I don't know anyone under age 50 who say they're with Harry."
That's odd, because you said you know 60 LDS people who all voted for Harry (I'm pretty friendly to mormons and I only have two Mormon friends), but here's an actual LDS member who lives IN Nevada and he says he doesn't know anybody who is supporting Harry Reid. Odd.

Well, then there was the actual freerepublic thread which discussed the Las Vegas Review's version of the same story, where we had azcap, a freeper from Nevada, making this statement:

have a lot of Mormon friends in Vegas and I don’t know a single one who will vote for Harry Reid. Reid would be better off converting to the Nation of Islam. Maybe he could shore up his waning urban vote.
So, why should I believe what you say, over what some other freeper says?

There were other comments in that thread from other people who made the same statements, that Reid was no longer seen as a good Mormon, and that Mormons would be more likely to support Sharon Angle.

There are of course lots of articles about how Angle's former pastor's comments about Mormons would help Reid. But those articles mostly told how Mormons didn't want to vote for Reid, but might be forced to just because of the anti-Mormon bias of Angle's former pastor (Angle did a good job of distancing herself from that flap, so I don't think it made that big a difference).

Here is a post-election article which discusses why Harry Reid won -- and it doesn't say a single word about "winning the Mormon vote".

So I put to you the challenge -- I can't find any evidence that Reid won more Mormon votes than Angle. But I'm willing to be shown to be wrong, just post an actual fact, with a reference, showing that Mormons voted more for Reid than Angle.

I've posted almost a half-dozen articles which refute claims you made that you gave no references for. I've shown that before the election, Mormons were supporting Angle, and turning against Reid. I've shown exit polling which indicated that Reid won amongst groups that would likely be non-Mormon, and that the groups that would correlate with Mormons were Angle supporters (unfortunately, that exit poll didn't ask about religion).

People keep asserting that Reid won the Mormon vote, but nobody has shown ANY evidence to back up that claim. I'm just asking for that evidence. All I'm getting is "of course they did, he's Mormon", as if just saying it makes it true.

331 posted on 07/17/2011 7:03:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: starlifter; ansel12

You are kidding, right? Ansel isn’t the one guilty of outburts and vile attacks, you are. Not just on this thread, but on several others when I checked your posting history.

If you aren’t Mormon then why do you defend them to the point of calling me names or agreeing with those who do? Why defend something you know nothing about? Doesn’t make sense.


332 posted on 07/17/2011 7:43:33 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: starlifter; ansel12; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

I stand by that post.

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So you do stand by calling me and others ‘bigots’ and ‘skinheads’ when all we are doing is defending our faith, telling the truth and warning others about an anti-Christian cult.

BTW, the ‘antis’ on here, the Flying Inmans as they are called, are members of all Christian churches, Catholic, protestant, Orthodox. So yeah, I agree with Ansel that your agreement of attack is on “Christian of all religious denominations...”


333 posted on 07/17/2011 8:04:18 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: starlifter; ansel12

I hope you reported them to the Mods.

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Hoping to get your posts pulled because of your embarrassment of them?

We are a lot more thick skinned than most of the trolls here expect.


334 posted on 07/17/2011 8:07:37 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Tennessee Nana

Good collection of quotes, Nana. :)


335 posted on 07/17/2011 8:08:49 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Ransomed

I pinged some other freepers who may have the numbers handy.


336 posted on 07/17/2011 8:18:51 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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THX 1138 and defenders, place marker


337 posted on 07/17/2011 8:24:07 PM PDT by svcw (democrats are liars, it's a given)
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To: reaganaut

See how nice I was and didnt make each part too long ???

:)

I spread them out

all about the White Horse Prophecy

Though Im sure I can hear Hinckley saying “I dont know if we teach that “


338 posted on 07/17/2011 8:31:01 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Though Im sure I can hear Hinckley saying “I dont know if we teach that “

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LOL. Probably.


339 posted on 07/17/2011 8:44:28 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
I'm a Messianic Jew and I'm here.

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340 posted on 07/17/2011 8:47:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Ransomed; Colofornian; Godzilla; svcw; SZonian

I don’t know that there was any exit poll that specifically asked religion, and I don’t believe Mormons would necessarily tell the truth about their religion if there was (we see a lot of LDS lying about being LDS even on here. Why? Because they think it gives them credibility to be a non-Mormon and defend Mormonism - Szonian admits he did this when he was LDS and several LDS who have been zotted did as well). I will admit I even lied about being Mormon (said I wasn’t) when I was LDS if I thought it would help. That is before I found Christ and became a Christian. Never discredit ‘lying for the Lord’ even in politics with the LDS. But I digress...

I did find THIS extensive exit poll from the 2010 NV election. Lets look at some of the questions in light of the possibility of Mormon votes for Reid, knowing what we know about the LDS.

Again, I know LDS culture and mindset but that aside...

One of the articles mentioned that the LDS make up 5.2% of NV voters and that they turn out in higher percentages than the general population. (I do not disagree with that).

Harry Reid won by 5.8% of the vote. http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/results/nevada

Also, lets figure in the prevailing view of Mormons as conservatives, tea party supporters, republicans, and the like. I will skip factors like age, income, college education and degrees (although that does apply to a larger number of LDS).

Now to the questions and percentages...

http://www.cbsnews.com/election2010/exit.shtml?state=NV&race=S&jurisdiction=0&tag=contentMain;contentBody

No matter how you voted today, do you usually think of yourself as a (Republican)...11% Reid.

On most political matters, do you consider yourself: (Conservative) 18% for Reid

In the 2008 election for president, did you vote for: (McCain) 10% for Reid.

Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president? Somewhat disapprove 46% for Reid. Strongly disapprove 7% for Reid.

Is your opinion of the Democratic Party: Unfavorable 12% for Reid.

Is your opinion of the Republican Party: Favorable 13% for Reid.

Which is closer to your view:Government is doing too many things better left to businesses and individuals 21% for Reid.

How do you feel about the Tea Party movement? Strongly support 7% for Reid. Somewhat support 15% for Reid.

Was one reason for your vote for U.S. Senate today to send a message:In favor of the Tea Party movement 15% for Reid.

Now, why would pro-tea party, conservative, Republicans vote for Reid for any other reason than his religion?

You are asking for evidence that does not appear to exist other than through extrapolating corollary characteristics. Additionally, if you calculate in the percentage of liberal, democrats, anti tea party people who voted AGAINST Reid, the numbers are much less than ‘conservative, tea party, republicans who voted FOR him.

What other group can you name, that votes as a block (like most Mormons) that would match those characteristics? Utah went 94% for Romney in the primary, btw.


341 posted on 07/17/2011 9:23:42 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Also, I know so many LDS in Vegas and Utah because I used to live there when I was LDS and had other LDS friends who moved to Vegas.

One told me that he was voting for Reid because he would rather have a Mormon than a ‘gentile’. I asked him how he handled the Presidential elections and he responded he didn’t vote for non-Mormons ever. But he is an exception.


342 posted on 07/17/2011 9:28:49 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: SkyDancer; starlifter; ansel12

How do you feel about being called a ‘bigot’ and ‘skinhead’?


343 posted on 07/17/2011 9:30:29 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
I was called a skin head once after I lost all my hair to chemo. Just fluffed it oft to stupidity.
344 posted on 07/17/2011 9:53:52 PM PDT by svcw (democrats are liars, it's a given)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Tennessee Nana; reaganaut
...many mormons didn’t see Reid as a good mormon...

You can comment all you like about how grassroots lds Nevada voters see Harry Reid; the key in my estimation is how Lds, Inc. (top-down hierarchy) views Harry Reid.

We know that Harry Reid is an official visiting home teacher for the Lds church (#1 below)...
...which also via BYU ensured that Harry Reid was invited to an all-student/all-faculty forum with Reid as speaker in October 2007 (#2 below).

#1 The Salt Lake Tribune ran an October 2009 article Harry Reid: A Mormon in the Middle

Here were two “interesting” comments by fellow Mormons about Reid, including one from Sen. Orrin Hatch:
Bennett's Utah Senate colleague, Orrin Hatch, says it's not fair for fellow Mormons to disparage Reid as anything but a devout Mormon..."I can personally tell you that Harry is a good member of the LDS faith and he was expressing a personal opinion that his side feels very deeply about," Hatch says.

Well, there ya go, Chuck. This Trib article also mentioned how ”Today, Reid, with his security escort in tow, likely will be making his home teaching rounds after his ward's three-hour service. Anyone who questions his Mormon credentials should see that, says Jim Vlock, his home-teaching companion.

Now, I've actually searched for Mormon exit poll data for the Nevada Angle-Reid race & couldn't find any. So I don't know how much Mormon support he had there; but just in perusing for Nevada residents who might be representative of support or critique, I found two pro-Reid Mormons:

(a) Kelsey Jorgenson

BYU newspaper citing student speaking about Harry Reid: “I respect him. I think that he basically does do a good job of representing Mormons in general,” said Kelsey Jorgenson, a BYU student from Las Vegas. “He is a political leader after all, and I think he puts on a good public face. I think it’s a good thing that he is a Democrat and a Mormon.” (BYU Daily Universe, Jan. 13, 2010)

And why wouldn’t a BYU student like Miss Jorgenson “respect” Sen. Reid? After all, don’t BYU students come to trust BYU decision-makers as ones who would only invite politician-speakers onto campus worthy of “respect?” And didn’t BYU’s decision-makers do that?

Perhaps Miss Jorgenson is a junior or senior now @ BYU – meaning she probably then heard...
...#2 Reid speak @ BYU two academic years ago. And if she was there, perhaps she heard Sen. Reid tell BYU students: "I am a Democrat because I am a Mormon, not in spite of it."
Source: Reid Gets Warm Reception at BYU

(b) Richard Bunker: The Las Vegas Review-Journal ran an article May 30 2010 with this mention: ...Mormon places of worship, where those who support Reid often keep their opinions to themselves...When people try to attack him, there isn't anybody who is willing to speak up," says Richard Bunker, a prominent Mormon and strong Reid supporter who happens to be Republican. "The problem is, the people that are vocal are the ones who are opposed to him, the ones that are beating the tom-toms with the Tea Party and all of that garbage. Sometimes I have to straighten them out." Bunker, whose great-grandfather was among Mormons who founded Bunkerville in 1877…
Source: Harry Reid

345 posted on 07/17/2011 10:17:54 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mormon mishies should ask propects to pray about Smith's 'first vision,' NOT the word-lifted BoM!)
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To: starlifter; ansel12
Religion is a personal issue between the person and God.

PERSONAL, yes. But will it remain "only" 'tween "person and God"??? That assessment will surprise the one who wrote a good chunk of the New Testament (apostle) Paul...as well as Jesus Himself:
9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus EVERY knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and EVERY tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father. (Paul, Phillippians 2:9-11)

Jesus: 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” (Matthew 25:41-46)

[But, I thought, Lord, that religion was just a you-&-me personal issue, dude...why, if I'd only known that whate'er I did for my personal neighbor was like doin' that for you...man, I would changed by behave long ago...]

346 posted on 07/17/2011 10:31:30 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mormon mishies should ask propects to pray about Smith's 'first vision,' NOT the word-lifted BoM!)
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To: lawsone; reaganaut
Reagan had great trust in Mormons because of their ethics and lifestyle

Sorry, but generally speaking we already have way too big of a problem with politicos & bureaucrats acting as if they are gods & messiahs...And now you advocate putting more self-prideful people -- temple Mormons who really do think they are gods & messiahs? Into positions where we have too many (non-Mormons) acting like that already?
Employee-wise for the high-up admin positions, I don't have a prob with somebody hiring non-temple Mormons. These are the 80% of Mormons who don't think they're godhood-bound.

We need less people in politics/bureaucrats acting as if they were gods & messiahs...not more.

347 posted on 07/17/2011 10:38:17 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mormon mishies should ask propects to pray about Smith's 'first vision,' NOT the word-lifted BoM!)
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To: ansel12; mc5cents
And that is what they said about Al Smith in 1928. He lost because of it. [mc5cents]

No he didn't, in 1924 the democrats got 29% of the total vote against 54% republican, and in 1928 Catholic Democrat Al Smith got 41% to the republican’s 58%, so my guess would be that his Protestant vote improved over the previous election. [ansel]

Good historical catch, Ansel.

348 posted on 07/17/2011 10:40:54 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mormon mishies should ask propects to pray about Smith's 'first vision,' NOT the word-lifted BoM!)
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To: reaganaut; starlifter
And you call me a bigot based upon what?? Bigotry comes from ignorance, I am not ignorant when it comes to the LDS, not at all. I lived it for several years before God rescued me from it, and from Hell.

Bingo, Reaganaut.

'Tis interesting to see so many FREEPERS -- ones obviously ignorant about Mormonism -- accuse the Inmans of being ignorant bigots...all the while being totally intolerant and ignorant about that which they comment!

349 posted on 07/17/2011 10:50:59 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mormon mishies should ask propects to pray about Smith's 'first vision,' NOT the word-lifted BoM!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; reaganaut
BTW, many mormons have questions about Reid’s true faith...Mormons are no more likely to vote for a “mormon in name only”

Horrible assumptions, Chuck, that I dealt with in post #345.

Lds Inc doesn't let MINOs become home visiting teachers. Lds Inc doesn't make a habit of having MINOs give big speeches on the BYU campus.

From the article I linked @ post #345 from the Deseret News, October, 2007...the BYU campus doesn't give this kind of response to MINO MOrmons: At the end of his speech, Reid earned a standing ovation from a small percentage of the crowd and applause from the rest.

Sorry, Chuck. Seems this standing ovation + applause by the BYU faithful sort of undercuts your MINO theorizing that lacks a documented foundation.

BTW, many mormons have questions about Reid’s true faith...

Of course, they do. And what does Harry Reid tend to say about these Mormons? Per that same Salt Lake Trib October 2009 article I cited in post #345: "I think some of the most unChristian-like letters, phone calls, contacts I've had were from members of the [LDS] church, saying some of the most mean things that are not in the realm of our church doctrine or certainly Christianity," Reid said last week during an interview in his office.
Source: Harry Reid: A Mormon in the Middle

350 posted on 07/17/2011 11:11:06 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mormon mishies should ask propects to pray about Smith's 'first vision,' NOT the word-lifted BoM!)
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