Posted on 07/27/2011 6:39:32 AM PDT by marshmallow
D'Andria said the structure of the tomb and the writings on it proved that it belonged to St. Philip the Apostle, who is recognized as a martyr in the history of Christianity
The tomb of St. Philip the Apostle, one of the original 12 disciples of Christianity's central figure Jesus Christ, has been discovered during the ongoing excavations in Turkey's south-western province of Denizli.
Italian professor Francesco D'Andria, the head of the excavation team at the Hierapolis ancient city in Denizli, told reporters on Tuesday that experts had reached the tomb of St. Philip whose name is mentioned in the Bible as one of the 12 Apostles of Jesus.
Professor D'Andria said archeologists had been working for years to find the tomb of the Biblical figure, and finally, they had managed to reach the monument while working on the ruins of a newly-unearthed church in Hierapolis.
D'Andria said the structure of the tomb and the writings on it proved that it belonged to St. Philip the Apostle, who is recognized as a martyr in the history of Christianity.
Describing the discovery as a major development both for archeology and the Christian world, D'Andria said the tomb, which had not been opened yet, was expected to become an important Christian pilgrimage destination.
Hierapolis, whose name means "sacred city", is an ancient city located next to the renowned Pamukkale, white Travertine terraces, in Denizli province. It is a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
The city, famous for its historical hot springs used as a spa since the 2nd century, is a mixture of Pagan, Roman, Jewish and early Christian influences.
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yes, neither is sola scriptura, or sole fide, etc, etc...
this namby pamby story telling that the church in the first century and thereafter was just nothing more than the ‘whole body of believers’ and not an actual hierarchial structure, centered in Rome, under Peter and his successors is just such an old, tired, rediculous ‘just so’ story, to deny the historicity of the catholic church.....
give it up already....
their rightful Christian inhabitants?
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absolutely.
...we constantly hear about the “evil” crusaders, who “invaded” Muslim lands.
never about that Turkey was one of the cradles of early Christianity. Or that Egypt, and most of the middle east, was majority Christian, for CENTURIES.
...and only after hundreds of years of Muslim occuptation, murder, rape, forced conversions, did the Pope finally call for a crusade.
similarly, they throw out the “evil” Spanish inquistion. Yet Islam killed far more under their “enlightened” conquest and rule of Spain, for hundreds of years.
Jeez, couldn’t you have restrained yourself at until there was a thread that at least mentioned Roman Catholics?
You should direct your point to the Catholics: "the term Roman Catholic does not appear until the great schism, so Roman Catholics did not refer to themselves as Roman Catholics". By that same exact reasoning Roman Catholics cannot call first century Jewish followers of Christ and apostles of Christ as "Catholic" today.
Cannot the Catholics restrain from calling all the apostles “Catholic”?
No one in the first century talked about being a Roman Catholic: its not in the words of the Bible.
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No one in the first century talked about ... the Bible.
it didn’t exist. so much for “sola scriptura”.
...there was ONE universal church.
(like in Ephesians)
and scripture talks about the importance of not letting false teachers and Satan divide it.
(tickle in the ear, Church of Timothy and Titus).
it was only referred to as Roman, after (Jew hating) Luther betrayed his oath to God, and split the church, and removed books from the Bible
(which condemns any who add OR remove even a single verse...)
Holy scripture also says some scripture is too hard to understand yourself, and you need (annointed) leaders to guide you.
scripture itself refers to a specific important scripture verse, that is NOT in the current Bible !
the Bible itself, refutes sola scriptura, in many ways.
The invention of a term to describe us by Anglicans in the 17th Century should restrain how we describe the Christians of the early church?
Why?
The term "Catholic" comes from the Greek "kata holon", "of the whole," or "universal". It's the church of the whole world, of the whole of humanity. The first recorded use of the term is in the writings of Ignatius of Antioch († AD 107), who called himself "the bishop of the Catholic Church in Syria".
Talk about defensive.
The article is a simple report of the discovery of a tomb. The archeologist claims it to be that of St. Philip. There is no mention of the Catholic Church.
What pushed your buttons? The fact that the archeologist is Italian?
Biblical - no, because you have foregone what the Lord Jesus Christ and His authority said and commissioned to the apostle Paul. Romans 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began.
Take ye heed what words Christ revealed to the apostle Paul and "my gospel" which Christ revealed to Paul to preach the unsearchable riches of Christ.
They will say its a muslim not phillip and claim the land as a holy site, then claim the body is a camel descendant of Mohamm...
Nobody in the first century talked about the Bible, either.
Some “Christian” YOU are....
Pick a fight, then blame the people you picked it with.
No wonder the pagans can’t help linking “Christian” with “hypocrite.”
I have never heard of anyone calling the original Apostles of Christ or even the later ones like Paul, Roman Catholic or even Catholic.
While you may find the term “one” Church in early writings it took a while for the term “universal” Church to become popular.
Early Christians from Jerusalem were definitely different than Christians of today. Many of their beliefs would seem strange to us. Many of us can’t even tithe, much less give all to the church. If we thought that we would be struck dead by not giving all we had to the church we would probably not have anything to do with that church.
Today we have learned men who go to seminaries and know much more about the scriptures than us plain folk could possibly understand. They have presented to us a Catechism and creed that we may not be able to fully understand but they assure us that with their higher understanding of scripture and ordinations that they are correct. When you mix the learning of man over centuries with what is left of scripture you come up with what we now have in the major Jewish and Christian religions of the day.
These learned men have fortunately been able to explain to us that even though it looks to us that certain practices like homosexuality and sex outside of marriage are forbidden in the scriptures in reality we misunderstand because of our lack of understanding and learning. That these practices and many others are OK because by declaring that we believe in Christ all things will be forgiven us and that sin is no longer possible once we have accepted Christ. To prove the acceptability of these practices they, our leaders practice them themselves and ordain others who do also.
Unfortunately there are many that will not listen to the reason of these learned men who over the centuries have compiled the doctrines of the “true” universal church we have today. These people who will not listen claim that through the “Spirit” they have found something that the wise and learned have missed and then start their own church based on this newly found doctrine. So now we have thousands of “Christian” denominations and sects that are at odds with the “Universal” Church.
I don’t understand why we can’t just let these learned, ordained seminarians do our thinking for us and just follow them.
Oh, sorry. I didn't realize you were one of the Biblical writers.
While we’re looking for dead saints God is looking for live ones.
Good article, but I must need more coffee: at first glance, I thought the professor’s name was Francisco D’Anconia.
When I was a overnight driver I befriend a Indian christian whose Church traces back to St Thomas. St Thomas the apostle went to India to establish Churches. This grew through out history. It is still in existence.
Tradition reads the apostle Thomas was speared to death by lancers on horse. My new friend told me. So I looked it up. It was fascinating. They celebrate the eucharist like Catholics.
This has been preserved from history for two thousand years.
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