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Hilaire Bellocĺs ôThe Great Heresiesö now available in EPUB format
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Posted on 08/18/2011 10:38:09 AM PDT by Teˇfilo

Hilaire BellocBrethren, Hilaire Belloc’s apologetic’s classic , The Great Heresies, is now available for download in EPUB format from here. Yours truly did the compilation and conversion. Please, let me know if you have trouble downloading the file.

- Download The Great Heresies.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: belloc; catholic; hilairebelloc; thegreatheresies
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1 posted on 08/18/2011 10:38:10 AM PDT by Teˇfilo
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To: Te├│filo

Thanks. I’ve downloaded it and will add it to Calibri.


2 posted on 08/18/2011 10:43:16 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: bcsco

Great! Then it works!

-Theo


3 posted on 08/18/2011 10:49:12 AM PDT by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Te├│filo

Excellent, thanks Teo. I’m still thinking about picking up the Nook Color and adding the Android chip. But I’m also thinking about just getting an Android phone.

Does anyone have any pros or cons on reading books on an Android phone? Is the screen big enough?


4 posted on 08/18/2011 10:54:44 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: bcsco

One of the finest books by a truy great English essayist. He brilliantly demolishes the heresies of Protestantism and Islam.


5 posted on 08/18/2011 10:58:37 AM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
Does he get into how the Church rejected Augustine and embraced Pelagism at the Council of Trent? BTW, did the Church rescind its declaration of heresy of Pelagius when they embraced his theology? Did the Church strip Augustine of his Sainthood and declare him a heretic when the papal bull of 1713 announced that 101 of his commentaries were wrong? And lastly, are popes that attend orgies infallible?

Sincerely, Katholic heretic who loves the ADONAI, or HaShem if you prefer...

6 posted on 08/18/2011 12:20:08 PM PDT by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: Te├│filo

Whether a faith is a heresyor not depends on who has decided it’s a heresy.


7 posted on 08/18/2011 12:24:22 PM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: fatez

You need to first try reading the book. It’s a required text in Oxford. And only for serious intellectuals.


8 posted on 08/18/2011 1:25:21 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: RoadTest

Not exactly. What can examine the historical record to determine what was said and taught and when, and how and for what reasons the message or doctrine was later distorted.


9 posted on 08/18/2011 1:34:37 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

I’m surprised you read it considering the criteria. BTW you sound like a Dem...


10 posted on 08/18/2011 1:48:05 PM PDT by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Brian, may I make a suggestion? I bought a nook color in May. It’s easily possible to run under android from a micro sdhc card. Mine has been doing it for the last month and a half. I still have tons of books on it, and the main memory is recognized and accessible from android. I did it in hopes of purchasing iPieta for the ‘droid and installing, which I’ve done. Works well this way. The other way it’s quite useful - it’s just the right size to use in conjunction with this : http://divinumofficium.com/cgi-bin/horas/officium.pl

Thank you Teó. I can’t wait to read this on the nook.


11 posted on 08/18/2011 2:43:03 PM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: Steelfish

” What can examine the historical record to determine what was said and taught and when, and how and for what reasons the message or doctrine was later distorted.”

It’s still nothing more than somebody’s opinion.


12 posted on 08/18/2011 2:49:13 PM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: Te├│filo

Will have my mother in law check it out


13 posted on 08/18/2011 3:17:35 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Te├│filo

Will have my mother in law check it out


14 posted on 08/18/2011 3:17:52 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: fatez

You would too if you were an Oxford graduate. Democrats hew to heresies not tradition and orthodoxy.


15 posted on 08/18/2011 5:34:31 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
As Belloc writes in The Great Heresies - there is no essential doctrine such that if we can agree upon it we can agree to differ about the rest; as for instance, to accept immortality but deny the Trinity.

Meaning - Truth is not relative, it is whole - it cannot be picked apart - and it is found in the Catholic Church.

16 posted on 08/19/2011 1:13:08 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: fatez
And lastly, are popes that attend orgies infallible?

You do live in an interesting planet.

-Theo

17 posted on 08/19/2011 8:29:35 AM PDT by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Te├│filo

Very well known facts of Papal sin(including attending orgies) during the middle ages and reformation eras. In fact Catholic scholars have written on it. I inhabit the same place as you Theo, happen to know just a little on the subject...


18 posted on 08/19/2011 8:46:45 AM PDT by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: fatez

I too know a little on the subject. Quite a bit, actually.

I was referring more to your overall worldview.

Popes who attended orgies had the gift of infallibility, yes, just as Saul had the gift of prophecy and Solomon the gift of Wisdom.

Nor is the Catholic Church Pelagian, nor has St. Augustine been demoted, etc. etc.

-Theo


19 posted on 08/19/2011 8:51:22 AM PDT by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Te├│filo

Works is works...Salvation is by grace.


20 posted on 08/19/2011 9:00:46 AM PDT by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: stonehouse01

Exactly. As BXVI pointed out in his address to World Youth Day:

“Truth is not to be found in a slogan, an idea, or an ideology. It is found in a person, in the person of Jesus Christ.”

From there on we must accept the rest of His teachings including the establishment of His one Catholic Church to reveal His Truth. Anyone propagates differently, puts forward a heresy. And Belloc goes on to explain with skillful brilliance the how, what, and why, other religions are heresies pure and simple.


21 posted on 08/19/2011 9:28:35 AM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
Thanks for clarifying that the person of Jesus Christ is the whole - the teachings descend in a complete way from Him. Every heresy is usually an omission of one of the Truths (of the Church) and occasionally it is an add on.

Also a must read - by Hilaire Belloc with Gabriel Oussani (actually Ousanni has first billing) - “Moslems: Their beliefs, practices, and politics.

In order to understand 9/11 and the real purpose of Islam - Hilaire is prescient - i.e. a prophet.

22 posted on 08/19/2011 1:06:16 PM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: fatez
Salvation is by grace working through love; for "faith without works is dead."

The selective reading of Scripture by the Reformation and her children is really trite and tiring and refuted many times. It's not even an issue between Lutherans and Catholics any longer. So I'll leave it at that.

Regarding the Papacy and Pelagianism, this might be instructive:

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2011/08/st-pope-sixtus-iii-fascinating-correspondence-with-augustine-2/

-Theo

23 posted on 08/19/2011 11:49:22 PM PDT by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Te├│filo

If it is so trite and tiring, why do you respond? Quoting James is good, I believe it too. But Christ alone is sufficient for me, you can bow to Rome, but I believe Jesus is King of Jerusalem...


24 posted on 08/20/2011 10:40:39 AM PDT by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: Te├│filo
It's not even an issue between Lutherans and Catholics any longer. So I'll leave it at that.

Not lefty ecumenical lutherans anyway. As to the others, I'll leave it at that.

25 posted on 08/20/2011 11:25:18 AM PDT by xone
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To: xone
Not lefty ecumenical lutherans anyway. As to the others, I'll leave it at that.

You're correct. I don't think the MS or WN synods would buy into the agreement. Yet, the agreement was surprisingly deep. I liked it and I am hardly a lefty.

-Theo

26 posted on 08/20/2011 2:05:39 PM PDT by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: fatez
If it is so trite and tiring, why do you respond?

At that moment I had nothing better to do.

Quoting James is good, I believe it too.

Glad to hear it.

But Christ alone is sufficient for me, you can bow to Rome, but I believe Jesus is King of Jerusalem...

Rome is where the Successor of Peter is, the King's Steward with the keys of the Kingdom entrusted to the lowly man there by the King himself. The King is the King, but the man in Rome holds the keys that open the door. That's the King's wish.

If you wish to enter (New) Jerusalem, you must engage the King's Stewart.

Not my words but His (Matthew 18:28).

In the Church, "sufficiency" is really a sharing.

Better hit those books again.

-Theo

27 posted on 08/20/2011 2:12:11 PM PDT by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Te├│filo
Awesome response - perfect - we are creatures - as in created - and we cannot approach on our own - the keys were handed to the steward, Peter - the master of the house only gave the keys to his most Trusted.

No one is bowing to Rome - we understand the complexity of human relationships and Our Lord understood this perfectly. Because he is perfect - he knows our ceatureliness and that is why he made it this way.

28 posted on 08/20/2011 2:41:41 PM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: Te├│filo; metmom; Iscool; bkaycee

The Pope holds the keys that open the door to the Kingdom? Does this mean that Christ must wait for the Pope to open the door before He returns? THis is very fascinating.


29 posted on 08/20/2011 3:18:17 PM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: Te├│filo
I liked it and I am hardly a lefty.

I was referring to the 'lutherans' leftiness, as a Catholic, I'm not surprised you liked it.

30 posted on 08/20/2011 8:31:39 PM PDT by xone
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To: Te├│filo
Rome is where the Successor of Peter is, the King's Steward with the keys of the Kingdom entrusted to the lowly man there by the King himself. The King is the King, but the man in Rome holds the keys that open the door. That's the King's wish. If you wish to enter (New) Jerusalem, you must engage the King's Stewart.<>

So says Rome. Rome says it is infallible, but that is not biblical. Tradition is the claim and I have a feeling you know enough scripture to know what Christ thought of man's tradition. I wish the Roman Catholic Church well, I believe there are lots of good Christians within and without the Roman Church.

31 posted on 08/21/2011 6:27:49 AM PDT by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: smvoice

Our Lord opened the gates of heaven on the cross after they had been closed by Adam and Eve. Peter is a prototype for humanity - remember his difficulties and denials. Because Jesus ascended and had to leave us, He knew that the doctrines (true teachings from Him) would get screwed up without a magisterium (teaching authority).


32 posted on 08/21/2011 7:09:05 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: Te├│filo

i never heard of him or his book, thanks for the info, I will check it out, i learn something new on the fr every day.


33 posted on 08/23/2011 9:00:22 AM PDT by Coleus
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Does anyone have any pros or cons on reading books on an Android phone?

Pro: The phone is really small.

Con: The phone is really small.

It can be done, but if you're going to do a lot of e-book reading get a tablet or a dedicated e-reader.

Comments based on use of a Samsung "Fascinate".

34 posted on 08/23/2011 9:03:17 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: fatez
Does he get into how the Church rejected Augustine and embraced Pelagism at the Council of Trent?

He might have done that if he were writing a book of fiction.

He was not, so ... No.

35 posted on 08/23/2011 9:05:16 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Thanks. I have the original Nook B&W (which was just replaced due to a defective screen) and I'm looking at the Nook Color and the Nook2Android card to use it as an Android device (which can read both Amazon and B&N ebooks as well as any others with their respective Android apps). I was also considering just getting an Android phone or iPhone, but I don't think I'd be satisfied with them. I want to be able to use iBreviary/Universalis as well as several medical apps, but also read the occasional novel/book. I think I'll be better served by sticking with the Nook Color with the N2A card.
36 posted on 08/23/2011 10:53:10 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

iBreviary works fine on my Fascinate. The small display doesn’t bother me for that application. I find that Bible (or other book) reading is a bit bothersome, though. Better than nothing at all. I can drop the phone in my pocket. Can’t do that with a tablet sized thing.


37 posted on 08/23/2011 11:09:39 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: fatez
So says Rome. Rome says it is infallible, but that is not biblical. Tradition is the claim and I have a feeling you know enough scripture to know what Christ thought of man's tradition.

I "hold fast to the traditions" that I've been taught (2Thess 2:15), ostensibly different from the traditions that gave rise later to rabbinic Judaism which is what the Lord was critiquing.

Isaiah 22:19-23 clearly describes the office of "steward" or keybearer, that is, "prime minister":

19 I will thrust you from your office, and you will be cast down from your station.

20 In that day I will call my servant Eli'akim the son of Hilki'ah,

21 and I will clothe him with your robe, and will bind your girdle on him, and will commit your authority to his hand; and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah.

22 And I will place on his shoulder the key of the house of David; he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open.

23 And I will fasten him like a peg in a sure place, and he will become a throne of honor to his father's house.

There should be no issue between you and I regarding the meaning of the symbolism of the keys. The question should be, how do I know that this privilege was not only granted to Peter but to his successors in the Roman See? I know it because of the traditions that I have received and hold fast to.

The Catholic Christian belief in the Petrine Primacy of the Bishops of Rome is solidly grounded in Scripture and in the Tradition we have received, and hold fast to.

I wish the Roman Catholic Church well, I believe there are lots of good Christians within and without the Roman Church.

I agree with your last sentiment. I thank you for your consideration.

-Theo, live from Afghanistan.

38 posted on 08/24/2011 2:52:31 AM PDT by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: smvoice
The Pope holds the keys that open the door to the Kingdom? Does this mean that Christ must wait for the Pope to open the door before He returns? THis is very fascinating.

The Master of the House doesn't need the Steward's permission to open the door. He simply opens the door. That doesn't make the Steward's job irrelevant, though. The Master DID GIVE the keys to Peter.

-Theo

39 posted on 08/24/2011 2:56:06 AM PDT by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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