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The Catholic League: MSNBC OUTDOES NEW YORK TIMES
WDTPRS ^ | August 30, 2011 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 08/30/2011 2:17:20 PM PDT by NYer

MSNBC, Hell’s Bible, and their treatment of anything or anyone truly Catholic.

What could go wrong?

From The Catholic League:

MSNBC OUTDOES NEW YORK TIMES

Catholic League president Bill Donohue discusses how MSNBC outdid the New York Times’ recent attack on Catholicism:

Last month, New York Times editor Bill Keller gave a raving review of the new book by John Julius Norwich, Absolute Monarchs: A History of the Papacy. Citing several factual errors, I said at the time, “It’s hard to know who is dumber”—the author or the reviewer. They now have competition with the folks at MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

On today’s “Morning Joe,” Norwich was introduced as “a renowned historian.” Even Keller got Norwich’s credentials right when he said the author is “no scholar.” By the way, another one of Norwich’s fans is professor Tony Lewis, and he recently wrote in the Providence Journal-Bulletin that Norwich describes himself as “an agnostic Protestant who is no scholar.” Looks like only the “Morning Joe” savants think otherwise.

Norwich said this morning that most popes were “very, very mediocre people,” which is precisely the kind of remark we would expect from a very, very mediocre non-scholar. Joe Scarborough seemed shocked to learn that absolute power can corrupt even popes; perhaps this Baptist would be equally shocked to learn that popes go to confession. Norwich, of course, focused his attention on the Borgia pope, Alexander VI, which is like discussing American presidents by focusing on Bill Clinton. John Heilemann, in search of more dirt, obligingly asked Norwich to name the “all-time worst pope.” No one asked who was the best.

Over the weekend, Keller outdid even himself when he said that Catholic teaching on the Eucharist was analogous to believing in aliens. “I grew up believing that a priest could turn a bread wafer into the actual flesh of Christ,” he wrote. Now he elects to believe that the New York Times editorial staff is capable of turning fiction into fact, e.g., the weird belief that two men can actually get married.

Contact: MSNBC executive producer Alex Korson: alex.korson@nbcuni.com. Also contact: keller@nytimes.com

Contact our director of communications about Donohue’s remarks:
Jeff Field
Phone: 212-371-3191
E-mail: cl@catholicleague.org



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; History; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: msnbc; nyt

1 posted on 08/30/2011 2:17:24 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/30/2011 2:18:10 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer
I am no Catholic, nor do I hold any brief for Catholicism (having a different set of religious beliefs myself, this is not too hard to understand). However, one thing I've learned over the years, is that if I want to learn more about Catholic beliefs, I go to the Catholics, not their enemies (personally, I've found the official Catholic website to be a veritable wealth of info).
Also, I'd say to those who would trash leaders of another sect to first look into the mirror. As the master would be say, "Let he who is perfect cast the first stone."
3 posted on 08/30/2011 2:35:09 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
one thing I've learned over the years, is that if I want to learn more about Catholic beliefs, I go to the Catholics, not their enemies (personally, I've found the official Catholic website to be a veritable wealth of info).

Several years ago I was talking to a woman thta claimed to be an ex-Catholic, she ranted and raved about the ills of the Catholic Church. After putting up with it for several months I asked her if i could contact one of her exhusbands to find out what kind of wife and mother she had been. She said no! Can you imagine that.

Some of the other people on the list got my point, she never did.

4 posted on 08/30/2011 3:02:34 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
I've found the official Catholic website to be a veritable wealth of info

I assume you mean this? Navigation is a bit clunky, but content is superb.

5 posted on 08/30/2011 3:06:50 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

NYT = gospel of Satan.


6 posted on 08/30/2011 3:30:30 PM PDT by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: ArrogantBustard
As a amateur web designer it is hard to understand why the Vatican persists in using that textured background that makes reading the site so difficult.
7 posted on 08/30/2011 3:59:39 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: ArrogantBustard
I've found the official Catholic website to be a veritable wealth of info

I assume you mean this? Navigation is a bit clunky, but content is superb.

I've always thought of it as inspired. :)

8 posted on 08/30/2011 4:16:24 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: ArrogantBustard; Frumious Bandersnatch

I immediately thought of newadvent.org...:) I was surprised to see how often wiki used it...only for rare and obscure people, places and things...nontheless it was a little uplifting.


9 posted on 08/30/2011 6:20:48 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch

You, my FRiend are a true Christian.
God Bless you!


10 posted on 08/30/2011 7:37:45 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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