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Hindu woman in her 70s embraces Christ
Baptist Press ^ | Oct 25, 2011 | Neisha Fuson

Posted on 10/25/2011 6:15:15 PM PDT by Graybeard58

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To: Persevero
Nothing strange. The method of conversion in Asian countries steps beyond the boundaries of civilized behavior. The conversion is in name only and is in exchange for cash or through coercion. Those who do it for cash invent stories to trick us here in the US into parting with money. This story probably is a piece of fiction invented by those who claim to have converted her.

How do I know all this? I have been in India and have wanted to see a church that collects money from here. The people there were evasive and the reason was that they built up an elaborate fictitious scheme to funnel money. Don't blame the Hindus, this was done by Christians from the US.

21 posted on 10/26/2011 4:40:35 AM PDT by JimWayne
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To: JimWayne; Tennessee Nana
You also speak just like the Muslims speak when they talk of converting others. May I ask you if you follow every letter in the Bible and support killing those who worship other gods? (See Deuteronomy for details of what I am talking about.)

To equate me or any other Christian with Muslims is completely wrong, I know of no Christian who wants to convert people at the point of a sword.

I am as familiar with Deuteronomy as I am with all the books of the Old Testament, I am also familiar with the fact that Jesus fulfilled the old law and we as Christians are no longer under it.

And I will continue to support Sarah Palin.

You keep saying that and I keep wondering, what she has to do with this conversation. I supported her too when there was a possibility that she would run, it just has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

Jesus died on the cross for both you and me and we are no longer under the old law.

Are you a Christian?

22 posted on 10/26/2011 4:43:05 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: JimWayne; Tennessee Nana
You also speak just like the Muslims speak when they talk of converting others. May I ask you if you follow every letter in the Bible and support killing those who worship other gods? (See Deuteronomy for details of what I am talking about.)

To equate me or any other Christian with Muslims is completely wrong, I know of no Christian who wants to convert people at the point of a sword.

I am as familiar with Deuteronomy as I am with all the books of the Old Testament, I am also familiar with the fact that Jesus fulfilled the old law and we as Christians are no longer under it.

And I will continue to support Sarah Palin.

You keep saying that and I keep wondering, what she has to do with this conversation. I supported her too when there was a possibility that she would run, it just has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

Jesus died on the cross for both you and me and we are no longer under the old law.

Are you a Christian?

23 posted on 10/26/2011 4:44:04 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: Persevero; JimWayne
Your post is strange

#18 is even stranger, we are now being compared with Muslims.

24 posted on 10/26/2011 4:46:33 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: JimWayne; Persevero; Tennessee Nana; Salvation
I have said this before and I say this again. Indian Christians are not true believers.

I'll leave that up to God to decide.

What the churches do in Asian countries is criminal as they use violence to convert others. This is sad but true. They also ally with the Muslims and Communists. Most of the violence is perpetrated by the Church of Socialists aka Papism or Catholicism.

You seem to have a very real animosity toward Christians in general with a particular bent against Catholics in particular. Looking forward to your answer to my question about your religion or lack thereof.

25 posted on 10/26/2011 4:54:48 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: Graybeard58
You seem to have a very real animosity toward Christians in general with a particular bent against Catholics in particular.

If you have been reading my posts here, you will know that you are wrong. I only point out the criminal nature of Islam, the socialism of Catholics and to some extent the ways of Episcopalians.

26 posted on 10/26/2011 5:20:38 AM PDT by JimWayne
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To: JimWayne
I only point out the criminal nature of Islam, the socialism of Catholics and to some extent the ways of Episcopalians.

That answer somehow relieves me. I was so hoping that you weren't atheist, atheists are almost impossible to reach through discussion, many of them are just "too smart" to accept Jesus as their Savior.

I'm not Catholic but I see socialism in too many leaders in that religion but it's not unlike the socialism to be found in many main line protestant churches and I try not to single Catholicism out for censure.

I'm Southern Baptist, there you go, I'm opened up for criticism. My church is affiliated with the S.B.C. and I'm not happy with some of the hierarchy of that organization, especially Richard Land who is leaning hard to "open borders" nonsense.

However, member Baptist churches are not dictated to by the S.B.C., every Baptist church is autonomous, my Baptist church financially supports the S.B.C. missionary programs and I have always thought of it as a good thing to do. If I ever learn of a program that we support that condones coercion, whether it be financial or physical, my church won't support that program anymore.

27 posted on 10/26/2011 6:10:57 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: JimWayne
What the churches do in Asian countries is criminal as they use violence to convert others. This is sad but true. Most of the violence is perpetrated by the Church of Socialists aka Papism or Catholicism.

Have any documented examples of this conversion by "violence" on the part of Catholics?

28 posted on 10/26/2011 9:25:56 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: Graybeard58

Great tagline.


29 posted on 10/26/2011 10:42:56 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (Member of the First Church of Christ, I am Catholic)
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To: JimWayne

‘Nothing strange. The method of conversion in Asian countries steps beyond the boundaries of civilized behavior.”

JimWayne, India is a big country. There are no doubt total charlatans among the millions there. I am sorry you went to a “church” that was nothing but a money funneling farce, but, one of our church elders visited India two years ago and worshipped with native Indians in house churches who secretly worship to avoid death/attack by Hindus. We have their photos on one of our walls and pray for them. They are real Christians, I assure you, and no money was changing hands.

And if there is an elaborate fictitious scheme to funnel money in India, it is not set up by “Christians,” anyone can call themselves a Christian, but there is nothing Christian about any such behavior.


30 posted on 10/26/2011 11:42:48 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero
...but, one of our church elders visited India two years ago and worshipped with native Indians in house churches who secretly worship to avoid death/attack by Hindus.

This is exactly the kind of lie that puts me off. I was there in India for some time and there is no problem for anyone if they don't get aggressive. I hope you know that the head of the ruling political party in India is a Catholic. Even the previous government which was accused of opposing Muslims had Christians and Muslims in it.

We should stick to facts instead of lies propagated by allies of Islamic fundamentalists and Communists. This is the second point that puts me off. Our churches go to India and promptly ally themselves with Maoist groups and Muslims.

This is exactly why socialism creeps in unchecked. For these messengers carrying the Bible, it does not matter if socialism takes over the society. In fact, it is something they welcome. I hope you read Vatican's message yesterday calling for a new world order.

31 posted on 10/26/2011 3:18:20 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: Graybeard58; Persevero
#18 is even stranger, we are now being compared with Muslims.

You know very well that my comparison has nothing to do with Christianity in the West. If your church is active in India, you also know very well that it supports Islamofascists and Maoists just because they are fighting the Hindus. Show me one verse in the Bible which says you must support Islamofascists and Maoists.

I am also sure you also know very well that American churches in India work closely with Jimmy Carter who was the shill for the Maoists in Nepal. Stop pretending otherwise.

32 posted on 10/26/2011 3:28:09 PM PDT by JimWayne
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