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Obama Administration Opposes Adding FDR Prayer To War Memorial
WITN-TV / The Associated Press ^ | November 3, 2011

Posted on 11/03/2011 7:45:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Obama administration is opposing legislation that would add President Franklin Roosevelt's D-Day prayer to the World War II Memorial in Washington D.C.

At a House hearing Thursday, Robert Abbey, director of the Bureau of Land Management, said a plaque or inscription of the prayer that Roosevelt read on a radio broadcast to the nation on June 6, 1944, would "dilute" the memorial's central message....

(Excerpt) Read more at witn.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Prayer; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: fdr; memorial; obama; prayer; robertabbey; veterans; warmemorial; worldwarii
But remember: He's NOT a MUSLIM!!!
1 posted on 11/03/2011 7:45:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I imagine Barry is afraid we’ll “offend” certain people again after we already “offended” them when we kicked their asses in WWII. Maybe he and his commie ‘RATs will suggest that we replace the prayer with an apology.


2 posted on 11/03/2011 7:52:50 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I’m sure most Japanese, Italians or Germans couldn’t care less what we put on our war memorials. They have statues and markers for the SS, fascists, Tojo and Kamikazes and we don’t interfere in their culture.


3 posted on 11/03/2011 8:02:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Central message?? How much more central can we get than,”Almighty Father,our sons, pride of our nation,this day have embarked upon a mighty endeavor.” ?


4 posted on 11/03/2011 8:14:34 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Central message?? How much more central can we get than,”Almighty Father,our sons, pride of our nation,this day have embarked upon a mighty endeavor.” ?


5 posted on 11/03/2011 8:15:29 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: xkaydet65

Who in hell put the head of the Bureau of Land Management in charge of this? Didn’t anyone have the sense to ask him if it was his own decision, or if he was taking orders from someone else?


6 posted on 11/03/2011 8:19:56 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://docs.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/odddayp.html

It makes no mention of Jesus or anything that would indicate Christian, or God of Abraham, or anything like that.

Maybe he is a question mark Unitarian after all?


7 posted on 11/03/2011 8:24:38 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The prayer is a bit long (over 6 minutes). Good sentiment though not up to Churchill.


8 posted on 11/03/2011 8:27:20 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (999er for Cain.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I guess FDR isn't such a hero when he exposes his faith in prayer to God; presumably he's referring to the Jehovah God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, but I don't know if that was FDR's actual belief.

But the point is Barry will have none of it. That way he can usher in sharia much easier.

9 posted on 11/03/2011 8:44:05 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Doesn't anyone love liberty anymore?)
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To: Mike Darancette

And how long does it take to say Lincoln’s Second Inaugural address?
But what amazes me is this talk about going against the “central message.” The liberation of Europe from Nazism was his greatest achievement.


10 posted on 11/03/2011 9:09:24 PM PDT by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: RobbyS

It is longer than anyone would read at a memorial, maybe excerpt This part:

“Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our Nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity.

Lead them straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith.”

Just enough to piss off Athiests, Muslims and Communists.


11 posted on 11/03/2011 9:46:19 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (999er for Cain.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Well, the Second Inaugural is one of the prayers carved on the walls of the Lincoln Memorial. But I take your point. What amazed me is the stupidly of the director’s comments. He is blinded by his own ambition.


12 posted on 11/03/2011 10:28:26 PM PDT by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

FDR was a religious man, to what extent I do not know.


13 posted on 11/03/2011 10:30:34 PM PDT by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: All; 2ndDivisionVet
So what is this central message that's threatened with dilution?

Is it centralized government, rather than God, is the supreme power?

If the full prayer is too long, the excerpts posted in this thread seem workable.

14 posted on 11/03/2011 11:02:48 PM PDT by newzjunkey (TeaParty & establishment GOP conspire to reelect Obama.)
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To: All; 2ndDivisionVet

“For these men are lately drawn from the ways of peace. They fight not for the lust of conquest. They fight to end conquest. They fight to liberate. They fight to let justice arise, and tolerance and good will among all Thy people. “

Franklin Roosevelt’s D-Day Prayer

June 6, 1944

My fellow Americans: Last night, when I spoke with you about the fall of Rome, I knew at that moment that troops of the United States and our allies were crossing the Channel in another and greater operation. It has come to pass with success thus far.

And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in prayer:

Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our Nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity.

Lead them straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith.

They will need Thy blessings. Their road will be long and hard. For the enemy is strong. He may hurl back our forces. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again; and we know that by Thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our sons will triumph.

They will be sore tried, by night and by day, without rest-until the victory is won. The darkness will be rent by noise and flame. Men’s souls will be shaken with the violences of war.

For these men are lately drawn from the ways of peace. They fight not for the lust of conquest. They fight to end conquest. They fight to liberate. They fight to let justice arise, and tolerance and good will among all Thy people. They yearn but for the end of battle, for their return to the haven of home.

Some will never return. Embrace these, Father, and receive them, Thy heroic servants, into Thy kingdom.

And for us at home — fathers, mothers, children, wives, sisters, and brothers of brave men overseas — whose thoughts and prayers are ever with them—help us, Almighty God, to rededicate ourselves in renewed faith in Thee in this hour of great sacrifice.

Many people have urged that I call the Nation into a single day of special prayer. But because the road is long and the desire is great, I ask that our people devote themselves in a continuance of prayer. As we rise to each new day, and again when each day is spent, let words of prayer be on our lips, invoking Thy help to our efforts.

Give us strength, too — strength in our daily tasks, to redouble the contributions we make in the physical and the material support of our armed forces.

And let our hearts be stout, to wait out the long travail, to bear sorrows that may come, to impart our courage unto our sons wheresoever they may be.

And, O Lord, give us Faith. Give us Faith in Thee; Faith in our sons; Faith in each other; Faith in our united crusade. Let not the keenness of our spirit ever be dulled. Let not the impacts of temporary events, of temporal matters of but fleeting moment let not these deter us in our unconquerable purpose.

With Thy blessing, we shall prevail over the unholy forces of our enemy. Help us to conquer the apostles of greed and racial arrogancies. Lead us to the saving of our country, and with our sister Nations into a world unity that will spell a sure peace a peace invulnerable to the schemings of unworthy men. And a peace that will let all of men live in freedom, reaping the just rewards of their honest toil.

Thy will be done, Almighty God.

Amen.


15 posted on 11/03/2011 11:50:28 PM PDT by johngrace (1 John 4!- declared at every Sunday Mass.)
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To: RobbyS
The liberation of Europe from Nazism was his greatest only achievement.
16 posted on 11/04/2011 5:54:40 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm sure your dog likes you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is just another reason why Obama is likely Muslim.

If he was just a socialist idiot, I would expect him to ok the prayer, since it was from THE Franklin D. Roosevelt.


17 posted on 11/04/2011 6:35:47 AM PDT by WPaCon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t wait until there is an Obama Memorial. Then we can debate about what prayers should or should not go on it.


18 posted on 11/04/2011 9:27:59 AM PDT by boknows
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a bunch of prejudiced individuals this whole group is. Jump on this and mention it throughout the campaigns. Let people know how un American and anti Christian these POS traitors are.


19 posted on 11/04/2011 10:17:33 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (There's nothing more hypocritical than a white liberal calling someone else a "bigot")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ALTERNATE HEADLINE: Obama scores two-fer; disses actual God AND Democrats’ God in one fell swoop


20 posted on 11/04/2011 1:45:33 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (All hail Her Royal Highness Sarah, Queen of The Hobbits)
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To: LaybackLenny

Oops. Should be “Democrats’ god...” (small ‘g’)


21 posted on 11/04/2011 1:48:13 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (All hail Her Royal Highness Sarah, Queen of The Hobbits)
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To: Tax-chick

I don’t agree. What was done during the first Hundred Days of his administration resulted in a great boast in the morale of the people.My Dad, who was not a fan, felt this way. It was not until 1935, IMHO, when he began to try to outbid radicals like Huey Long and began to demonize the rich, that he went off beam.


22 posted on 11/04/2011 3:31:49 PM PDT by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: RobbyS

Morale is nice and all, but it was economically harmful in the short and long term, at least according to recent publications on the subject.


23 posted on 11/04/2011 4:25:23 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm sure your dog likes you.)
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To: Tax-chick

You have to go back to the summer of 1931. That whole year and a half following was a just scary. . Hoover had totallylost the confidence of the country, and Roosevelt just got people pulling together. Think about the first year after 9/11. Unlike the guy we have now, FDR was a leader.


24 posted on 11/05/2011 12:56:06 AM PDT by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: RobbyS
You have to go back to the summer of 1931.

I was born in 1966.

My great-uncles were lifelong Roosevelt fans, but they gave up being Democrats in the Clinton years - it was just too vulgar.

25 posted on 11/05/2011 3:56:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm sure your dog likes you.)
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To: Tax-chick

Well, I wasn’t around either, but my Dad was. he personally was not affected, since he was in the oil business, drilling in the East Texas field.But he said it was a scary time, because people came from all over looking for work. He was at Hobbs before than, and people would get off the train and sleep at night under the gas flares. He was out hunting and had killed a jack rabbit. A guy came up to him and offered to buy the rabbit for a dime—my Dad didn’t dress up while hunting. The man offering wore patent leather shoes. A man down on his luck. Dad gave him the rabbit, and he took it back to the camp by the railroad. Hard times.


26 posted on 11/05/2011 8:45:57 AM PDT by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: RobbyS

My relatives were mostly farmers (in Missouri, not the Dust Bowl) so they had enough to eat themselves, but money was tight.


27 posted on 11/05/2011 9:54:40 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm sure your dog likes you.)
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