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Are Jehovah’s Witnesses a Protestant Religion?
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Posted on 12/02/2011 9:56:33 AM PST by Cronos

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To: narses

Oh wellll.....Opinions are two a penny.


41 posted on 12/02/2011 5:04:50 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: livius

Jehovah’s Witnesses are not Protestants. JW’s believe all churches are of the Devil and only the Watchtower Society/JW’s are the true Kingdom of God.


42 posted on 12/02/2011 8:18:15 PM PST by MarilynBr
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To: RBStealth

No they aren’t.


43 posted on 12/02/2011 8:28:34 PM PST by MarilynBr
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To: Manic_Episode
`You stated: “They are clueless about the blood atonement of Christ and in fact deny Jesus is God Himself. They are liars.”

I am not a JW but I can't see how anybody can support the claim that Jesus is God.

How do you explain these scriptures from the KJV?

John 1:18
No man hath SEEN God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
John 5:37
And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor SEEN his shape.
John 6:46
Not that any man hath SEEN the Father, save he which is of God, he hath SEEN the Father.

Thousands of people saw Jesus! Yet you say Jesus is God.

??????___________

EasyDoesIt

44 posted on 12/02/2011 10:38:19 PM PST by eazdzit (Did your Congressman challenge/Qualify OBAMA? Throw the bums out. WE need a 3rd Party.Palin in 2012)
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To: eazdzit
Isaiah 44:6
Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Revelation 1:8-18

8I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

9I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

10I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

11Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

12And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;

13And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

14His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

15And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

16And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

17And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

18I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

45 posted on 12/03/2011 12:13:11 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Cronos

Are Jehovah’s Witnesses Protestants? They’re not even Christian, much less Protestants and they don’t have a chance of qualifying as Fundamentalists. They belong in the same category as Mormons and those who deny the Deity of Christ; they’re heretics and/or unbelievers.


46 posted on 12/04/2011 7:39:31 AM PST by Avalon Hussar
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To: Manic_Episode
The American Standard Version Online Bible (ASV)
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith Jehovah, the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, Jehovah of hosts: I am the first, and I am the last; and besides me there is no God.

The Young's Literal Translation Online Bible (YLT)
Isaiah 44:6 Thus said Jehovah, king of Israel, And his Redeemer, Jehovah of Hosts: `I [am] the first, and I the last, And besides Me there is no God.

MY COMMENT:If you look in Strong's you will see that the Tetragrammaton(God's name) was present when the King James version uses LORD. Note that the ASV, the YLT(posted above) and many others use Jehovah or Yahweh(God's name).

If your logic is that Rev 1:8-1:18 shows that Jesus is Jehovah(if not then what are you trying to show?), then that would mean that John had seen Jehovah. This would have the bible contradicting itself in more ways than one.

i.e. Isaiah 46 and
John 1:18
No man hath SEEN God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
John 5:37
And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor SEEN his shape.
John 6:46
Not that any man hath SEEN the Father, save he which is of God, he hath SEEN the Father.

MY COMMENT:You might want to look a little deeper. The trinity is the main argument used by unchristian religions to brand christiandom as false religion.

47 posted on 12/04/2011 8:47:48 AM PST by eazdzit (Did your Congressman challenge/Qualify OBAMA? Throw the bums out. WE need a 3rd Party.Palin in 2012)
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To: eazdzit
John 14:9
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
48 posted on 12/04/2011 1:08:42 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: nonsporting
And that new creature cannot sin

So, assuming you are born again, you are incapable of sinning?

49 posted on 12/04/2011 8:41:20 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (The thing that counts is not what we could do, but what we actually do. -- Leo Spears)
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To: righttackle44
One of my customers was the local priest of a local Anglican congregation...The man had absolutely no respect for, and not very much knowledge about, Professor Lewis.

That local priest wasn't Father Screwtape was it?

50 posted on 12/04/2011 10:09:36 PM PST by uptoolate (For the record: I have complete assurance that nothing can pluck me from His hand)
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To: Nervous Tick

there was a post on this some months ago — very funny. I think it was Mormon meets Jehovah’s Witness or something.


51 posted on 12/04/2011 10:13:27 PM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: Augustinian monk
I don’t think that had to do with the restoration movements.

Possibly. I just looked at it from a historical era point of view (of course there is no theological similarity between any of these) -- 1800s to early 1900s. Why do you say it had nothing to do with the restoration movements? Seriously -- I would like to learn more from your point of view

52 posted on 12/04/2011 10:16:10 PM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: count-your-change; Scanian; BigSkyFreeper
cyc: How many denominations do you know of that actually ask their members to get off their backsides and get out to preach the word?

you have a point -- if the Jehovah's Witnesses are anything, they are persistent and persevering. Something for all of us to learn from.

53 posted on 12/04/2011 10:17:48 PM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: narses; count-your-change; xzins
Narses - cyc is correct about t his denomination when he says How many denominations do you know of that actually ask their members to get off their backsides and get out to preach the word? -- we may disagree with WHAT they preach, but they do get their members to get off their backsides and preach their own philosophy, FAR more than the rest of us.

They are preaching their version of the word and their fervour and passion by all members is something we should admire -- their actual teaching, well, i disagree with.

54 posted on 12/04/2011 10:30:39 PM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: eazdzit
I can't see how anybody can support the claim that Jesus is God.

the thing is that being a Christian is to hold to that very point, that Jesus IS God. One can't even hold Him to be just a prophet as He did things and said things only of God -- either He WAS God or he was a possessed madman whose teachings are that of a mad man.

55 posted on 12/04/2011 10:32:52 PM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: Avalon Hussar; count-your-change

yet cyc has pointed out how passionate they are to spread their religion — something for the rest of us to learn from imho


56 posted on 12/04/2011 10:33:32 PM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: Cronos

There is more to Russellism than being “asked” to proselytize. It is strictly a works system and the folks hit the streets to make what they think are merit points with Jehovah God.

I realize the New Testament teaches that “faith without works is dead” but the orthodox emphasis is always on “faith.” The “works” is something the believer should WANT to do to express his love for both God and his fellow man and not just some sort of obligation.


57 posted on 12/05/2011 3:19:03 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian; count-your-change

I think the Jehovh’s Witnesses would differ with that characterization


58 posted on 12/05/2011 4:52:04 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: Cronos
Are Jehovah’s Witnesses a Protestant Religion?

About as much as Christian Scientists are Protestants. They're Arian.
59 posted on 12/05/2011 4:56:38 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Cronos
When it comes to Bible doctrine, Jehovah’s Witnesses in over 230 countries follow the apostle Paul’s counsel to “speak in agreement.”

Unfortunately, they "speak in agreement" about a gospel that Paul calls "another gospel" (heteros) that is not an "other" (allos) gospel.
60 posted on 12/05/2011 4:58:39 AM PST by aruanan
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