Posted on 12/13/2011 7:53:56 AM PST by Colofornian
I guess you missed out on the HISTORY of MORMONism when it was being taught.
You are rightly concerned about the flesh and the immediate; but others tend to take the long view: the eternal consequences of MORMONism.
The bible gives us more warnings about wolves in sheep's clothing (Mormonism) than is does about openly evil people (Islam).
I've discussed this with conservative Protestant ministers, and Orthodox Christian priests. They *all* agree that Mormonism is counterfeit, a chameleon that keeps changing, and is *not* Christianity.
In class, we studied it. How do you know it's not Christianity? Simple:
Not the same God.
Not the same Heaven. (They have three of them, in fact.)
Not the same Salvation process.
Sauron
I've taken seven (7) semesters of hermeneutics, Christian ethics, even Koine Greek.
I've discussed this with conservative Protestant ministers, and Orthodox Christian priests. They *all* agree that Mormonism is counterfeit, a chameleon that keeps changing, and is *not* Christianity.
In class, we studied it. How do you know it's not Christianity? Simple:
Not the same God.
Not the same Heaven. (They have three of them, in fact.)
Not the same Salvation process.
(And it gets more even more divergent from there, if you study and compare them both.)
Sauron
FLDS/LDS “prophet” Brigham Young claimed that Joseph Smith’s “retranslation” of the bible was a fraud, so the LDS sect abandoned Smith’s greatest work and does not use it to this day, unlike the true “Mormons” in the RLDS and FLDS communities.
Try to get your mind around this logic pretzel...the LDS sect will tell you that mormonism began when God(s) told Joseph Smith not to become a Christian or use the King James bible because it was corrupt and he needed to “translate” the Book of Mormon and “retranslate” the bible.....
Forward to today and they will tell you that they ARE Christians, that the “book of mormon” is the most correct of any book on earth, AND that the Joseph Smith Translation which Smith spent over two years working on is a fraud so they use the King James version instead.
Actually, many members don’t know the Joseph Smith translation even exists, to be fair....This is a MORG leadership deception.
They better hope and pray that FLDS/LDS “Prophet” Brigham Young was WRONG about Joe Smith judging EVERYONE BEFORE CHRIST DOES, because HE IS GOING TO BE TICKED !
That brings up a very interesting point...Symbols on mormon temple clothing can be traced back to at least the Knights of Malta who put them on their clothing. They took an oath not to fight, but wanted to help soldiers in battle hit by "greek fire". The Maltese Cross widely used on firetrucks today can also be tracked back to the Knights of Malta. The knights made special protective clothing marked with symbols on the belly, chest and knee representing secret oaths they had taken, and they would wade into battlefield fires to rescue burning soldiers, often digging the "greek fire" out of the soldiers sking with their hands.
Their protective clothing was made out of sheep's skin.
Jesus Christ, Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
As per 'just asthetics'; while in Biblical times; there was a general 'dress code'; today's standards do not have the 'burqua' looking anything like a "sheep's clothing" either and for that matter. Of course, irrespective of specfic religious garb; to which may or may not be 'innocuous' - depending on the wearer of - there are many Muslims who do wear blue suits/white shirts. . .speak English. . .speak of America's goodness and unity; and of the Islamic flag; sitting soon, atop our White House dome. (Which they have offered is 'ready made' for their flag!) No matter; no enemy observed here, in any case; or by 'whatever' clothing.
Again; there IS an enemy loose in our lands; and one welcomed by and large; per the wolf not seen. And this enemy/threat i.e.wolf; is NOT any MORMON!
/(And while I support Newt-not-Mitt; do not fear Mitt's 'Mormonism'; but do fear his 'status quo' MO and 'real' inside the beltway focus.
Fear even more; Mitt's reluctance to identify the 'wolves' who threaten our freedom and America's identity and our future. Seems the 'sheep's clothing' is quite popular; and Mitt himself; is not able- or willing - to see the wolf inside. Nor is the RNC, much to our collective detriment.
This refusal allows more 'wolves in sheep's clothing' and as well; the double whammy of a 'Trojan Horse' full of them, to maneuver itself into our body politic and bring only more of what is heretofore brought into other cultures. The 'contributions' globe-wide; per above mention, that we are witnessing.
And of course, must add a footnote of sorts inasmuch as not 'all' Muslim's are 'Islamists' in our worst sense of the word - of course. Would wish they would ID themselves as at least 'Reformed' or somesuch, however. . .)/
Nice summary.
Mormonism's main god wasn't divine from eternity past; was handpicked by a "council of gods"; and adds peer-gods to the ever-increasing lineup of gods all the time.
Mormonism's heaven excludes being able to be reconciled to Heavenly Father unless you're married and a temple Mormon.
Mormonism's "salvation" provides precious little to be saved from...and the process is proving your "personal worthiness" by good works, self-righteousness, tithing, following Mormon-made laws -- all things that men could boast in -- something not part of the way God operates salvation (Ephesians 2:8-9)
Mormonism's
It must be sad to have so ittle to think about.
Merry Christmas to all !
The 'long view' of Mormonism looking forward; cannot be separated from it's 'long view' - looking back in 'our' history.
No where; at no time; has Mormonism threatened our Constitution; much less the people/culture of those who live by it!
Again; let it go; and look the enemy in the eye; who; should they endure; it will be guaranteed; that you will not have "Mormon's" to worry about. And you will not have Christians, either. . .
No where; at no time; has Mormonism threatened our Constitution; much less the people/culture of those who live by it!
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Are you SURE about that?
Mormon war, Gov. Boggs assassination attempt, theocracy, their own army, I can give you a lot of info that would counter your naive claim.
Thank you aimhigh.
An insidious threat, one from within that attempts to undermine the very foundation of Christianity should be of great concern.
I don’t view mormons per se or even in general as a physical threat. If I did, I’d be awake many nights keeping an eye on my wife.
What I and many of the others here see as the threat is mormonISM.
It’s the supposed “theology”, doctrines, tenets, etc. of mormonISM that attempts to co-opt or re-brand itself as Christian.
The “only” Christianity where all others [Protestants, Catholics, Methodists, Presbyterians most especially, etc.] are churches of the devil, ignorant, abominable in the eyes of God or whores of Babylon that is the threat to Christianity.
Well, I do not need ‘clarification’ but appreciate it nonetheless. Have only appreciation for Mormons; no fear; like that expressed on varioius threads here. Do not support Mitt; but this has nothing to do with his ‘religion’ - only his politics/lol. . .
1. Many of us here can oppose the false religion of Islam and the false religion of mormonism at the same time.2. Mormons do not torch churches, they send souls to hell for eternity. Churches can be rebuilt. Men die once, then they are judged.
Carry on. I will too.
Ahh yes, very true. But even Christians have their 'lunatic' - not to say, irrelevant - but typical and thus far, manageable - fringe. No consolation to victims of fringe/radical/maybe insane justice; of course.
Clearly, Islam has it's 'lunatic fringe' as well; as judged by our Judeo/Christian i.e. Western - and 'Eastern'- for that matter - Morally Reasoned MO's. Radical Islam is just not viewed by same; by enough Muslims - yet. And it's 'victims'; we know; are far greater in number.
The question does remain, however; 'if' and 'when' will there be such a grand critiquing. And what happens to our civilization; if there is none. . .
I am not sure, why so much negative energy is expended on the 'threat' - so thoughtfully detailed and so posed here - by Mormon's; rather than concentrating on the 'Barbarians At Our Gates - so to speak by necessary qualifier - of course. . .
The 'knock on the door' is quite different when an Islamist is on the other side; versus, the Mormon missionary.
Time to prioritize one's fears; and 'sense of Justice in the world'; IMHO. . .
Fearing; hating; resisting; warning per the 'Mormon' issue; seems, an altogether, 'false economy'of effort and focus; IMHO. A 'sheep and goats' kind of herding - if you will - rather than the preferred separation. Hence, resulting in an MO that is less artful; less specific; less successful; in outcome. And to our detriment. . .
(Again; God knows, we have long suffered 'Harry Reid'; but NOT because he is a Mormon; but rather, because he is something far worse; IMHO.)
You can do whatever your heart desires and be held accountable for it.
As for me, I will follow the example of Jesus, Peter, Paul, etc.
"But what I am doing I will continue to do, so that I may cut off opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the matter about which they are boasting." II Corinthians 11:12
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