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"The Shroud is not a fake" (Scientists say there is no way to falsify or duplicate it)
Vatican Insider ^ | December 12, 2011 | MARCO TOSATTI

Posted on 12/14/2011 11:10:27 AM PST by NYer


The Holy Shroud

New research from ENEA on the sacred Linen kept in Turin

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Enea, the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development, has published a report on five years of experiments conducted in the ENEA center of Frascati on the “shroud-like coloring of linen fabrics by far ultraviolet radiation”. Simply put: we tried to understand how the Shroud of Turin was imprinted by an image so special that it constitutes its charm, and poses a great and very radical challenge, "to identify the physical and chemical processes capable of generating a color similar to that of the image on the Shroud. "

 

In the following article will see how this research developed (the complete version can be found at this link: opac.bologna.enea.it/RT/2011/2011_14_ENEA.pdf ).

Scientists (Di Lazzaro, Murra, Santoni, Nichelatti and Baldacchini)  start from the last (and only) comprehensive interdisciplinary exam of the sheet, completed in 1978 by a team of American scientists from Sturp (Shroud of Turin Research Project). A starting point which all too often those who write about and dissect the Shroud prefer not to take into account, in spite what is evidenced by available information verified by an accurate control on “peer reviewed” journals, that is, approved by other scientists in objective and independent ways.  The Enea report, with a lot of fair play and almost "en passant", very clearly refutes the hypothesis that the Shroud of Turin might be the work of a medieval forger.  The hypothesis was supported – against many weighted arguments – by the results of the disputable and probably biased - C14 measurements; a test whose credibility has been rendered ​​very fragile not only by objective difficulties (the possibility that the fabric is contaminated is very high, especially since  its historical journey is only partially known), but also from proven factual errors of calculation and the inability to obtain “raw data” from the laboratories for the necessary controls.  In spite of repeated requests. An omission which in itself can throw a heavy shadow over the scientific accuracy of the episode.

 

The report notes: “The double image (front and back) of a scourged and crucified man, barely visible on the linen cloth of the Shroud of Turin has many physical and chemical characteristics that are so particular that the staining which is identical in all its facets, would be impossible to obtain today in a laboratory, as discussed in numerous articles listed in the references.   This inability to repeat (and therefore falsify) the image on the Shroud makes it impossible to formulate a reliable hypothesis on how the impression was made.

 

In fact, today Science is still not able to explain how the body image was formed on the Shroud.  As a partial justification, Scientists complain that it is impossible to take direct measurements on the Shroud cloth.  In fact, the latest in situ experimental analysis of the physical and chemical properties of the body image of the Shroud was carried out ​​in 1978 by a group of 31 scientists under the aegis of the Shroud of Turin Research Project, Inc. (STURP).  The scientists used modern equipment for the time, made ​​available by several manufacturers for a market value of two and a half million dollars, and took ​​a number of non-destructive infrared spectroscopy measurements, visible and ultraviolet, X-ray fluorescence, thermograph, pyrolysis, mass spectrometry, micro-Raman analysis, transmission photograph, microscopy, removal of fibrils and micro-chemical tests”.  The analysis carried out on the Shroud did not find significant amounts of pigments (dyes, paints) nor traces of designs.  Based on the results of dozens of measurements, the STURP researchers concluded that the body image is not painted nor printed, nor obtained by heating.  Furthermore, the color of the image resides on the outer surface of the fibrils that make up the threads of the cloth, and recent measurements of fragments of the Shroud show that the thickness of staining is extremely thin, around 200 nm = 200 billionths of a meter, or one fifth of a thousandth of a millimeter, which corresponds to the thickness of the primary cell wall of the so-called single linen fiber.  We recall that a single linen thread is made ​​up of about 200 fibrils.

 

Other important information derived from the results of the STURP measurements are as follows: The blood is human, and there is no image beneath the bloodstains; the gradient color contains three-dimensional information of the body; colored fibers (image) are more fragile than undyed fibers; surface staining of the fibrils of the image derive from an unknown process that caused oxidation, dehydration and conjugation in the structure of the cellulose of the linen”.  In other words, the color is a result of an accelerated linen aging process”.

As already mentioned, until now all attempts to reproduce an image on linen with the same characteristics have failed.  Some researchers have obtained images with a similar appearance to the image of the Shroud, but nobody has been able to simultaneously reproduce all microscopic and macroscopic characteristics. “In this sense, the origin of the Shroud image is still unknown. This seems to be the core of the so-called “mystery of the Shroud”:  regardless of the age the Shroud, whether it is medieval (1260 - 1390) as shown by the controversial dating by radiocarbon, or older as indicated by other investigations, and regardless of the actual importance of controversial historical documents on the existence of the Shroud in the years preceding 1260, the most important question, the “question of questions” remains the same: how did that body image appear on the Shroud?”.

There are two possibilities, the scientists write, on how the sheet of the Shroud was placed around the corpse:  placed above and below (not in full contact with the whole body stiffened by rigor mortis) or pressed on the body and tied in order to be in contact with almost the entire body surface.

“The first method is supported by the fact that there is a precise relationship between the intensity (gradient) of the image and the distance between the body and the cloth.  Furthermore, the image is also present in areas of the body not in contact with the cloth, such as immediately above and below the hands, and around the tip of the nose.  The second method is less likely because the typical geometric deformations of a three dimension body brought into contact in two dimension sheet are missing.  Moreover, there is no imprint of body hips.  Consequently, we can deduce that the image was not formed by contact between linen and body”.

 

It is this observation, “coupled with the extreme superficiality of the coloring and the lack of pigments” that “makes it extremely unlikely that a shroud-like picture was obtained using a chemical contact method, both in a modern laboratory and even more so by a hypothetical medieval forger”.   “There is no image beneath the blood stains.  This means that the traces of blood deposited before the image was. Therefore, the image was formed after the corpse was laid down.  Furthermore, all the blood stains have well-defined edges, no burrs, so it can be assumed that the corpse was not removed from the sheet.  “There are no signs of putrefaction near the orifices, which usually occur around 40 hours after death.  Consequently, the image is not the result of  putrefaction gases and the corpse was not left in the sheet for more than two days”.

One of the assumptions related to the formation of the image was that regarding some  form of electromagnetic energy (such as a flash of light at short wavelength), which could fit the requirements for reproducing the main features of the Shroud image, such as superficiality of color, color gradient, the image also in areas of the body not in contact with the cloth and the absence of pigment on the sheet.  The first attempts made to reproduce the face on the Shroud by radiation, used a CO2 laser which produced an image on a linen fabric that is similar at a macroscopic level.  However, microscopic analysis showed a coloring that is too deep and many charred linen threads, features that are incompatible with the Shroud image.  Instead, the results of ENEA “show that a short and intense burst of VUV directional radiation can color a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin, including shades of color, the surface color of the fibrils of the outer linen fabric, and the absence of fluorescence”. 

 

“However, Enea scientists warn, "it should be noted that the total power of VUV radiations required to instantly color the surface of linen that corresponds to a human of average height, body surface area equal to = 2000 MW/cm2 17000 cm2 = 34 thousand billion watts makes it impractical today to reproduce  the entire Shroud image using a single laser excimer, since this power cannot be produced by any VUV light source built to date (the most powerful available on the market come to several billion watts )”.

 

However the Shroud image “has some features that we are not yet able to reproduce – they admit - for example, the gradient of the image caused by a different concentration of yellow colored fibrils that alternate with unstained fibrils”.  And they warn: “We are not at the conclusion, we are composing pieces of a fascinating and complex scientific puzzle”.   The enigma of the image of the Shroud of Turin is still “a challenge for intelligence”,  as John Paul II said.



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To: CynicalBear
The best thing you ever did was still as a dirty rag to Him. I don’t do anything that pleases God.

What a horrible outlook on our salvation. Don't you know we have been adopted into the Holy Family of God? Can you so easily toss aside all of the references I gave you that God will reward our deeds? Of course, He will. Why? Because we have been restored as sons of God through the New Covenant of Christ. In that, we have been graced by Christ with the ability to merit from God the approval due to His children.

When we were still separated from Him, He did not delight in our deeds (just as you take no delight in the accomplishments of the neighbor kids). Now, as restored sons and daughters, He does delight in us and our work for His Kingdom is not a mess of filthy rags before Him.

Your quote of the filthy rags comes from Isaiah and it is, again, about the Law. The way you misconstrue this fact is, unfortunately, very Protestant and the source of much misunderstanding between us.

May God bless you.

101 posted on 12/14/2011 9:09:53 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: CynicalBear; pgyanke
I don’t do anything that pleases God.

Maybe you should change your ways.

    Hebrews 13:16 But do not forget to do good and to share, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.

102 posted on 12/14/2011 9:22:43 PM PST by Al Hitan (Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.)
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To: NYer

The shroud has everyone stumped. From a scientific point of view, you can say it’s a miracle if it’s real and a miracle if it’s fake.

The problem, always from a scientific point of view is that you are absolutely free not to believe that it is actually and factually the burial cloth of Jesus Christ, you may “debunk”... but then you have to “bunk”.

Okay, it’s fake, it’s man-made... but how on earth was it made? Just saying the devil made it, to lead man astray, really doesn’t do it from a scientific point of view, so what are we left with?

A Medieval (or older) man creating something capable of stumping 21st century science.

So okay, it’s a fake, but a fantastically prodigious one. How could its creator have known how to make it forensically so correct with “stuff” that could only have been appreciated by technologies many centuries away? Why would he have bothered?

The devil theory doesn’t hold water because believing that it is actually and factually the burial cloth of Christ is not required. Very few Catholics even knew about it. Even today not that many are “obsessed.” It’s a matter of interest but not of faith. It’s a matter of interest to believers and non-believers alike.

It exists. How do we deal with it?


103 posted on 12/14/2011 10:15:25 PM PST by Youaskedforit
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To: CynicalBear
If you claim it must be done it’s a law. It then is “works of law”.

No. That's where you go way off the mark, exegetically. "Works of [the] law" had a specific meaning to Paul, other first century rabbis, and Paul's readers. It meant the ceremonial "works" of the Mosaic law, not any works of any law.

104 posted on 12/14/2011 10:57:14 PM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: RnMomof7; PaForBush
What eternal impact does a piece of cloth have on your eternity?

LIke I asked PaforBush:"and what about those things that draw the attention of the non-believer? The things that lead them to investigate and seek answers."

105 posted on 12/15/2011 2:06:00 AM PST by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on television.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; albee; AnalogReigns; AnAmericanMother; Angelas; AniGrrl; annalex; annyokie; ...

Shroud of Turin PING for the Shroud group...


106 posted on 12/15/2011 3:10:47 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: RnMomof7

No one worships it; never have, so please give up that tired old saw, ok? Sheesh.


107 posted on 12/15/2011 5:01:41 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: Wuli
Regardless, belief or non-belief in such things (the shroud) cannot be a determining factor in a Christian’s faith.

That seems like quite an untenable position to take. How then, can belief or non-belief in the resurrection of Jesus, the performance of miracles, his immaculate conception, and the idea that he was an actual historical person at all, be determining factors in a Christian's faith?

If you choose to believe the latter, the shroud is just one more of those same type of things. Is it not?
108 posted on 12/15/2011 5:02:05 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

;-)))))


109 posted on 12/15/2011 5:42:45 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: verga

Very good answer. One could also ask, “What impact does the Cross have on your eternity?”

They are both *things.* yet they lead us to and cause us to focus on HIM. Our Creator made many *things* and many people come to believe in Him because of His creation.


110 posted on 12/15/2011 5:50:59 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: NYer

It could be quite interesting to research how any people have come to Christ after discovering the facts of this shroud....precisely because they began to THINK about Christ.

Also, one researcher wrote “the the STURP team were able to extract DNA from the blood on the Shroud prompting the 1999 book by Leoncio Garza-Valdes The DNA of God? This leads to the question of whether or not there could be another DNA sample from a different source relating to Jesus that could be used to cross-reference the Shroud DNA, if so that could solve the Shroud mystery once and for all.”

If the Church ever requested this to be compared with the DNA from one of the Eucharistic miracle sources (Lanciano, Italy comes to mind), we might discover some FAR more interesting information.

;-))


111 posted on 12/15/2011 6:08:14 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Swordmaker

Thank you for the ping. Everything about the Shroud fascinates me. I believe Christ left it here for those of us who need outward signs more than others. It’s a gift!


112 posted on 12/15/2011 6:18:15 AM PST by Melian ("Where will wants not, a way opens.")
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To: ZX12R

It’s HER Immaculate Conception [Blessed Mary Ever Virgin], celebrated on December 8th. HER Nativity is celebrated on September 8th.

HIS Conception was the Annunciation as celebrated on March 25th. HIS Nativity is celebrated on December 25th.


113 posted on 12/15/2011 6:19:19 AM PST by bigoil (Study Thy Nixon)
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To: bigoil
It’s HER Immaculate Conception [Blessed Mary Ever Virgin], celebrated on December 8th. HER Nativity is celebrated on September 8th. HIS Conception was the Annunciation as celebrated on March 25th. HIS Nativity is celebrated on December 25th.

I wasn't aware that Mary was immaculately conceived. Other than that, what's your point?
114 posted on 12/15/2011 6:35:25 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: pgyanke
>>In that, we have been graced by Christ with the ability to merit from God the approval due to His children.<<

Nonsense. “It is not I that live but Christ that lives in me”.

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

115 posted on 12/15/2011 6:42:51 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Al Hitan
Maybe you should understand who it is that is doing the good. “it is not I, but Christ who lives in me”. Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Give credit where credit is due, and it ain't you.

116 posted on 12/15/2011 6:48:03 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Campion
>>No. That's where you go way off the mark, exegetically. "Works of [the] law" had a specific meaning to Paul, other first century rabbis, and Paul's readers. It meant the ceremonial "works" of the Mosaic law, not any works of any law.<<

Believe what you will. Replacing one law with another law is still living under a law. I live under grace.

117 posted on 12/15/2011 7:09:11 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: traderrob6
Appears he’s done reasonably well with you.

That was completely out of line.

118 posted on 12/15/2011 7:20:13 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

It was in reply to a post that was hateful, self righteous, acccusatory, biased and disingenuous.

All things the devil would certainly approve of.


119 posted on 12/15/2011 7:45:46 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: katana

Nice post! You said it beautifully, and in very few words.


120 posted on 12/15/2011 8:32:51 AM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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