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When Seconds Count (what happens when parents continue a pregnancy after a fatal diagnosis?)
Catholic World Report ^ | 12/27/2011 | Daniel Allott

Posted on 12/18/2011 6:45:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Maria Keller was pregnant with her fourth child when she visited her doctor for a routine ultrasound at 20 weeks and was confronted with a moment all mothers dread. Maria and her husband, Joe, suspected something was not quite right when the ultrasound technician suddenly became quiet as she caught the first glimpses of the couple’s unborn child on the ultrasound screen.

Then the technician abruptly exited the room, leaving Joe and Maria waiting for a few tense minutes before they were called in to see the doctor, who met them with a distressed look on his face.

The ultrasound had revealed that their son, who would later be named James Nicholas, had osteogenesis imperfecta type II, a genetic bone disorder that causes collagen deficiency and defective connective tissue. Most babies diagnosed with OI Type II die within the first year of life of respiratory failure.

“We were frankly told that we shouldn’t expect James Nicholas to survive birth, and that if he did survive to prepare for it to be a matter of seconds or maybe a couple of minutes, if we were blessed,” Joe told CWR in an interview.

Until recently, it was not uncommon for delivery room doctors to seize babies with lethal anomalies immediately after birth. The belief was that it would be less traumatic for parents not to hold or even see babies who would likely die soon after birth.

Today there is better recognition that deep maternal-fetal bonding can take place. But a strong anti-life bias persists against unborn and newborn babies with fatal conditions. There is broad public support for abortion of unborn children with profound disabilities.

According to a 2006 poll by the National Opinion Research Center, 70 percent of Americans believe a woman should be able to obtain a legal abortion if there is a strong chance of a “serious defect” in the baby.

Most unborn babies who receive a severe or fatal diagnosis are aborted. Cheri Shoonveld, a genetic counselor and spokesperson for the National Society of Genetic Counselors, estimates that only 10 to 20 percent of women carry to term after learning of a terminal prenatal diagnosis.

In her book For the Love of Angela, Nancy Mayer-Whittington tells the story of her daughter Angela, who was diagnosed prenatally with Trisomy 18, a genetic disorder associated with a life expectancy of just 30 days. When Mayer-Whittington informed her doctor that she would be carrying Angela to term, he told her she was his first patient carrying a child with a life-threatening diagnosis to choose not to terminate.

A woman’s decision whether to bring a baby to term or abort after a fatal diagnosis can hinge on whether alternatives to abortion are offered, and whether she has the necessary medical and emotional support from her husband and other family members, clergy, and health-care providers.

A life-affirming alternative to abortion

A growing perinatal hospice network provides parents with a life-affirming alternative to abortion. It offers advice to parents—on how to cope with and grieve for their baby, how to tell family members and others about their baby’s diagnosis and their decision to bring him or her to term—as well as instructions on how to care for their baby at home before death.

A small 2007 British study found about 40 percent of pregnant women with fatal prenatal diagnoses continued when perinatal hospice was offered. In 2006, Minnesota enacted the first law in the nation to offer prenatal hospice as an alternative to abortion when the unborn child is diagnosed with a fatal condition.

Devout Catholics, Joe and Maria Keller never considered abortion, and say they had positive experiences with most of the succession of doctors they saw during Maria’s pregnancy.

“[Our primary doctor] really took the time and told us everything we wanted to know, and in a very human way,” Maria said. “And he was very honest, but he was very gentle in his approach. He was very caring toward us and followed up with a few phone calls.”

But a high-risk obstetrician urged Maria to abort and tried to console her by telling her that if she got pregnant again she would be able to obtain prenatal genetic screening early in the pregnancy. This, Maria was told, would allow for the early detection of any fetal abnormalities and time to abort before she got emotionally attached to her child.

“I just exploded,” Maria said she responded. “I told [the doctor], ‘Listen, [my] baby has this condition, but how is me killing this baby going to make it all better? How is me killing him going to make me happier?’”

The Kellers’ experience highlights the pro-abortion prejudice held by many medical professionals toward babies with severe or fatal diagnoses. A study by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists found that 90 percent of its surveyed members support abortion for fatal fetal anomalies, and 63 percent support abortion for non-fatal anomalies.

A 2000 study in the journal Prenatal Testing and Disability Rights found that a quarter of physicians admitted trying to influence mothers’ reproductive decisions, usually encouraging them to abort. Other studies have found that many pregnant women feel pressured to undergo invasive prenatal testing, then, if the test comes back positive for a disability in their child, to abort.

Dr. Amina White, an OB/GYN at Howard University in Washington, DC, believes that most physicians try to be sensitive toward parents who receive poor prenatal diagnoses. But, she told CWR, “Sometimes in the counseling we give—[in] the tone that we use and some of the words that we use—[we] can end up making parents feel that they have no other choice but to end the pregnancy.”

White thinks some physicians feel “the goal should be to avoid suffering at any cost. And they assume that the [baby’s life] will be so difficult, so full of suffering and pain, that it’s just not worth it.”

White says that physicians sometimes use callous or misleading terms such as “grossly deformed,” “lethal anomaly,” or “incompatible with life,” which can give parents an inaccurate picture of their child’s condition and may inadvertently encourage them to abort.

“Even if we know that there’s a really, really high possibility that the baby either won’t survive the pregnancy or will die very shortly after birth,” Dr. White said, “‘incompatible with life’ has some overtones that may give some parents the impression that the baby is likely to die any minute, when in fact some of those infants for whom that diagnosis or that phrase is used actually go on to live for days, for weeks, for months.”

Special challenges

In For the Love of Angela, Mayer-Whittington writes about the special challenges that confront women who carry babies with fatal conditions to term.

Mayer-Whittington had to decide whether, when, and how to talk about Angela’s condition to people she encountered. “I finally decided that certain conditions had to be met in order for me to speak candidly about Angela,” she wrote. “If the congratulations came from a total stranger, I said nothing and accepted their best wishes.” She continued:

Breaking the news to people was practically a trauma in itself. They were so shocked and unprepared, and many could not hold back tears. They had no idea what to say to me and just nodded wordlessly as I tried to comfort them. At a time when I was in dire need of consolation…I frequently found myself placed in the position of consoling other people.

More challenges arose after Angela’s birth and her death, a few minutes later. “Every time someone congratulated me about my pregnancy, I was confronted with an enormous dilemma. Should I tell them the truth or keep quiet? Ironically, I did not want to spoil their happiness by telling them about Angela’s death. These conversations were achingly difficult, for they made me relive my story over and over again. … To be honest, there is nothing good about the death of a child. It is the life you lead afterward that creates the good.”

Mayer-Whittington later co-founded Isaiah’s Promise, a support group for parents continuing a pregnancy after a severe or fatal diagnosis in the Washington, DC area.

As with women who abort generally, some women who abort babies with fetal anomalies later experience intense grief. Theresa Bonapartis of Lumina, a post-abortion referral network, told CWR that she has seen a significant rise in recent years in the number of women who seek out grief counseling after aborting a child with an adverse diagnosis.

But women who abort babies with disabilities have special post-abortion counseling needs. Most plan to give birth and abort only after prenatal testing reveals a disability. Typically, the usual reasons given for abortion—immaturity, lack of support, poverty, or inconvenience—are not present. Most of the pregnancies, in other words, are “wanted”—until the disability is detected.

The grief associated with disability abortion is often made more intense by the fact that most disability-related abortions take place in the second or third trimesters.

Be Not Afraid offers free pastoral care for parents experiencing a poor prenatal diagnosis. It is a network of concerned parents and professionals who have experienced or worked closely with issues surrounding poor prenatal diagnosis.

A co-founder of Be Not Afraid, Monica Rafie started the initiative as an online outreach to parents who receive difficult prenatal diagnoses. The website—benotafraid.net—includes family stories, articles, and information to help women with difficult pregnancies find counseling. “By sharing our experiences,” the website says, “we hope to offer encouragement to those who may be afraid to continue on.”

Rafie helped Maria and Joe Keller after they found out about James’ condition. In an e-mail to CWR, she explained that since the Kellers never considered abortion and have a strong extended family and deep faith, her role was simply to be “a friend who would not change the conversation when something difficult and painful came up and who would laugh with [Maria] when absurdities popped up (and there were plenty).”

“Supporting parents through a prenatal diagnosis pregnancy is primarily an apostolate of friendship, a ministry of presence,” she said. “It’s about ‘being there,’ come what may.”

In late October, more than 60 people gathered in Charlotte, North Carolina for a two-day conference organized by Be Not Afraid.

Speakers from several Catholic dioceses and disability advocacy groups made presentations, as did pro-life physicians, several priests, and three mothers who had been helped by Be Not Afraid. Some attendees were interested in establishing similar ministries in their dioceses or communities.

Many of the speakers talked about the importance of listening to parents and allowing them as much time as possible with their babies. Amy Daniels, director of the Office of Formation and Discipleship with the Archdiocese of Atlanta, talked about the importance of “running in, not out.”

By this Daniels meant that many well-intentioned family members and friends of mothers of unborn babies with difficult diagnoses will try to avoid the women out of doubt about what to say or concern that they’ll say the wrong thing. But in many cases mothers wish to talk about their pregnancies, and appreciate friends who engage them about their experiences.

Volunteers were encouraged to try and cut through the euphemistic language that medical personnel often use when describing the pregnancy and the child.

Jan Benton, executive director of the National Catholic Partnership on Disability, talked about the importance of not trying to comfort mothers by telling them that the diagnosis might be wrong. “That’s like saying ‘Yeah, a child with a disability would be the end of the world,’” Benton said.

Heartbreaking and wonderful moments

When a mother gives birth to a dying child, a lot must be done in a short period of time. The delivery room can be a chaotic rush of family members, photographs, and religious rituals.

Angela, Mayer-Whittington’s daughter, lived for only a few minutes after birth. But in that time, Angela met her parents, was baptized, and received last rites. Mayer-Whittington described those moments as “the most wonderful and heartbreaking of my life.”

“Seeing Angela alive, holding her, telling her I loved her, had made everything worthwhile, all the grief, uncertainty, and confusion,” she wrote. “The decision to proceed with the pregnancy had been the correct one. I now had the face of my infant daughter forever etched in my memory.”

The mothers at the Be Not Afraid conference all talked about the importance of memory-making, which involves lots of photos before, during, and after birth. Memory-making also may include planning funerals, making outfits for the baby, making hand or foot impressions, constructing memory books full of ultrasound pictures, locks of hair, congratulatory cards and mementos from the hospital, and more. The Kellers made special bracelets for themselves and their other children to wear to remind them of James.

Mayer-Whittington took lots of pictures and did many other things—including planting a tree—to help her remember her daughter’s brief life, which she called “Angela moments.” “I had this huge need to talk about Angela, an incredible desire to validate her existence to everyone,” she wrote.

In his encyclical letter The Gospel of Life, Pope John Paul II affirms that it is “morally licit” to use “prenatal diagnostic techniques which enable the early detection of possible anomalies in the unborn child…when they do not involve disproportionate risks for the child and the mother, and are meant to make possible early therapy or even to favor a serene and informed acceptance of the child not yet born.”

He condemns the “conspiracy against life” that seeks to “eliminate malformed babies” and others with disabilities. He reaffirms Catholic teaching that “the direct and voluntary killing of an innocent human being is always gravely immoral,” singling out the prevention of “the birth of children affected by various types of anomalies.”

“Such an attitude,” he writes, “is shameful and utterly reprehensible, since it presumes to measure the value of human life only within the parameters of ‘normality’ and physical well-being, thus opening the way to legitimizing infanticide and euthanasia as well.”

John Paul II urges us to take a “contemplative outlook” that recognizes “every individual as a ‘wonder’” and “to see in every human face the face of Christ.”

In 2004, National Catholic Bioethics Center issued a statement titled, “Early Induction of Labor.” It affirmed that the Church considers the early induction of labor because of a poor or fatal prenatal diagnosis to be an abortion.

As the number of older mothers increases, and as the use of assisted reproduction—including in vitro fertilization—continues to rise, so might the number of unborn babies with severe and fatal disabilities. In 2007, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists began recommending that all women be offered prenatal screening for genetic conditions. And very soon prenatal tests will be widely available that can screen for hundreds of genetic defects much more cheaply and less invasively than do current tests.

These developments are taking place in a culture that increasingly demands genetic perfection. In 2003, the President’s Council on Bioethics stated, “the attitude of parents toward their child may be quietly shifting from unconditional acceptance to critical scrutiny: the very first act of parenting now becomes not the unreserved welcoming of an arriving child, but the judging of his or her fitness, while still an embryo, to become their child, all by the standards of contemporary genetic screening.”

Advances in biotechnology present an opportunity for groups like Isaiah’s Promise and Be Not Afraid. They offer an opportunity for them to spread their message that, while a fatal prenatal diagnosis can mean a lot of tears, it can also be an invitation to a more focused and deliberate love.

“[James] has taught us so well to not be afraid and to enjoy each moment we have,” Joe Keller said. “We’re spending more quality time together as a family, we’re loving each other more as a family. And we can thank James Nicholas for that.”

“Grief can last a lifetime,” Mayer-Whittington wrote. “But I have come to believe that Angela was a gift, an incredible treasure…Angela’s life and death showed me clearly that life can be lived fully and completely in the space of a few minutes.”

About the Author

Daniel Allott is senior writer at American Values and a Washington Fellow at the National Review Institute.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: abortion; geneticscreening; genetictesting; pregnancy; ultrasound

1 posted on 12/18/2011 6:45:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

ALL of LIFE IS PRECIOUS!! HOW TOUCHING AND BEAUTIFUL!! ALL THINGS TO THE GLORY OF GOD!


2 posted on 12/18/2011 6:49:34 AM PST by lyby
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To: SeekAndFind
Nice to read about parents who recognize the God-given gift of LIFE.
Thanks for posting.
3 posted on 12/18/2011 6:55:19 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: SeekAndFind

“A woman’s decision whether to bring a baby to term...”

Sorry, but I think the husband/father should have a say in this decision as well if the mother’s life is not in jeopardy.


4 posted on 12/18/2011 7:06:00 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival. (Karl Denninger has jumped the shark. Do not visit his blog.))
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To: SeekAndFind

I refused Down Syndrome testing because I wasn’t going to do anything antilife if the baby did have it.


5 posted on 12/18/2011 7:10:53 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

What a sad, yet sweet article. I wonder how many parents are haunted by the fact that they chose aborton in these instances.


6 posted on 12/18/2011 7:18:14 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: lyby
<>i>ALL of LIFE IS PRECIOUS!! HOW TOUCHING AND BEAUTIFUL!! ALL THINGS TO THE GLORY OF GOD!

Yep - for where there is love, there is no harm, and that fulfils the intent of all the commandments. Killing the unborn deprives them and the parents of an opportunity for this wonderful love-thing to take place.

7 posted on 12/18/2011 7:27:25 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: SeekAndFind

My step daughter became deathly ill seven years ago and was rushed to the ER. Turns out she had a ruptured appendix but during the exam they did a pregnancy test and discovered she was pregnant. The doctors urged her to let them “clean you out” while they went forward with the appendectomy. She is a member of the LDS Church and told the doctors that she didn’t believe in abortion and to leave the baby alone! The doctors gave her dire warnings about the consequences for her and the baby. Blah blah blah. And that’s how we got Joshua, the cutest, smartest, sweetest, most adorable grandson in the whole wide world!!!


8 posted on 12/18/2011 7:30:50 AM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: yldstrk

“I refused Down Syndrome testing because I wasn’t going to do anything antilife if the baby did have it.”

Good for you.


9 posted on 12/18/2011 7:32:20 AM PST by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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To: Saundra Duffy

May I ask if they still did the surgery? If they can do a C-section with an epidural, couldn’t they do other types of surgery?


10 posted on 12/18/2011 7:37:16 AM PST by momtothree
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To: SeekAndFind

Beautiful.

I so believe in this. Let Life be up to Gd.

One of our candidates faced this. Santorum was told his child would die. Yet she is still alive 5 years later.

Every baby is perfect.


11 posted on 12/18/2011 7:37:54 AM PST by Yaelle (Excuse the mobile device errors please.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I now had the face of my infant daughter forever etched in my memory.”

I has to stop reading...as the screen got real blurry for some reason...

12 posted on 12/18/2011 7:38:52 AM PST by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: momtothree

They did the surgery for the diseased appendix but left the baby alone. Hooray for Joshua!


13 posted on 12/18/2011 7:39:51 AM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Yes... hooray for Joshua. But super hooray for your step-daughter who stood her ground and maintained her moral convictions.


14 posted on 12/18/2011 7:46:41 AM PST by momtothree
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To: lyby
"ALL of LIFE IS PRECIOUS!!"

You are in including the terrorists responsible for 9/11 etc.

15 posted on 12/18/2011 7:52:09 AM PST by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: yldstrk

My wife and I felt the same way when she was carrying our daughter. I had a friend who felt differently..his wife was pregnant in her late 30’s... and he demanded she get every possible test to rule out defects no matter what risk it posed to his daughter.

I lost so much respect for him because of that...


16 posted on 12/18/2011 7:52:20 AM PST by Skip Ripley
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To: SeekAndFind
I (age 52) think one of the many reasons today's women seem to be completely whacked out as compared to a generation or two ago is many are suffering from post abortion stress disorder...guilt and shame from killing your own children eats away at your soul and mind...

43 % of women by age 45 have had an abortion...many more than one

17 posted on 12/18/2011 7:53:14 AM PST by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: SeekAndFind
My bff’s “doctor” was trying to bully her and her husband to abort their first 2 babies because of some head abnormality, I forget the name of it.

They refused, had to go through genetic counseling (which was horrific for them) and the bullying continued there as well.

They now have a 10 year old girl, 7 year old boy and a 4 year old boy. ALL PERFECTLY HEALTHY! We still get SO angry when we talk about it.

18 posted on 12/18/2011 8:05:45 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: yldstrk

I refused it as well. Fortunately, my OB/GYN simply presented the test. After some discussion on my part, he simply said, “If you don’t care about the answer.... you don’t have to ask the question”. I didn’t care about the answer.


19 posted on 12/18/2011 8:09:45 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

As an expectant father, on one hand I agree with you but what if the parents disagree?

Then what?


20 posted on 12/18/2011 8:23:48 AM PST by Grunthor (Unrepentant breeder.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A close friend had a similar circumstance, and was told the baby would die within hours of birth. The woman refused abortion, and nearing the end of her term, her little girl did die. While she was in the hospital, family members went to be with her, and mourn the loss of her baby. This was her first baby, and she was nearing 40 years old, and mostly likely her last chance to be a natural mother. The nurses dressed the baby, and the family spent time alone with her. The mother rocked her, and talked to her. One comment she made, was, “I now know what it is like to be a mother”.


21 posted on 12/18/2011 8:25:00 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: yldstrk

We got the testing. The test results stated that we had a higher risk for having a DS baby.

He’s due any day now.


22 posted on 12/18/2011 8:25:10 AM PST by Grunthor (Unrepentant breeder.)
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To: momtothree

At 38 years old, I refused the “amnio” test. OB/GYN required us to sign paperwork. WHY did I do this?

Researched info and learned that the chances of my baby having “something wrong” were almost equal to the chances of a healthy baby being aborted by the procedure.

Rachel is a beautiful, witty, intelligent, 13-year-old daughter who has brought my husband, our sons, Matthew and Jacob, and me much joy!


23 posted on 12/18/2011 9:03:22 AM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: Grunthor

I just read your “about” page! THANK YOU!!! You expressed my sentiments EXACTLY - and with humor!! LOVE IT!

All the best to you, your family, and the new addition you await!!!


24 posted on 12/18/2011 9:08:55 AM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: lyby

It makes me wonder how many women have the amnio after age... what? 35 or so and the baby is miscarried later due to the test. I am sure every time you look at your beautiful daughter... you must feel so blessed. I know that many doctors recommend the test even if the parents won’t consider abortion because of Downs... they get away with it by saying that they can prepare mentally and research Downs if the test is positive. So sad....


25 posted on 12/18/2011 9:09:34 AM PST by momtothree
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To: momtothree

EXACTLY what the doctor told us!! I TOLD him, I have a cousin with Down’s Syndrome (BTW, he is now 36 years old and a delight!), so I do not need any “what-if” preparation...


26 posted on 12/18/2011 9:15:57 AM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: NoGrayZone
My bff’s “doctor” was trying to bully her and her husband to abort their first 2 babies because of some head abnormality, I forget the name of it.

They refused, had to go through genetic counseling (which was horrific for them) and the bullying continued there as well.

They now have a 10 year old girl, 7 year old boy and a 4 year old boy. ALL PERFECTLY HEALTHY! We still get SO angry when we talk about it.

I have read of many situations just like the one you described! All kinds of dire things predicted for unborn babies, only to have them be born completely healthy.

27 posted on 12/18/2011 9:58:14 AM PST by annie laurie (All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost)
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To: annie laurie

There are WAY too many stories like that. One girl I worked w/ was pregnant and they wanted her to abort because “there was too much fluid behind the head and neck” and the baby wouldn;t survive birth.

She asked the “doctor” well, how much fluid ( there is supposed to be a certain amount, the dr said there was too much).

The “doctor” said we don’t know, he’s too small for us to measure. So she said then how the hell do you know there’s too much??

Lo and behold, she had a perfectly healthy baby boy in May.

Perhaps we should start some kind of organization, or maybe there is one, of such stories.

Personally I think they are using this as a “control the population” growth method.

It’s happening way too often NOT to be something sinister.


28 posted on 12/18/2011 10:32:59 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ping for later


29 posted on 12/18/2011 11:17:02 AM PST by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: SeekAndFind

The opposite of ‘planned parenthood’ is ‘unconditional love.’


30 posted on 12/18/2011 12:21:34 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Grunthor

That is a problem. But that problem was manufactured when the Feminazis turned abortion into a “woman’s” right to choose.
Twenty years ago I was arguing the the fact that Roe V Wade is an unconstitutional decision because it gives one group of people (women) a “constitutional right” based upon their group and thus denies that right to others based upon their group.

By their argument, everyone should have a right to “abort” what is nothing more than a “viable tissue mass.” And that means if a guy knocks a woman up, he should have the right to choose to have the child aborted.

Of course, they are both stupid and immoral arguments. The only defense a woman has in this decision is if her life is in impending jeopardy based upon the pregnancy or the continuation of the pregnancy.

Outside of that, what this article is discussing is women choosing to kill an unborn child because they or someone else deems that child “imperfect.” What’s next, aborting because of gender? Because of a club foot (easily fixed now yet women in England are aborting babies because of this)? Or because the child has Down’s Syndrome?

I don’t think the man or woman has a right to choose to abort a child based upon the probability that the child will die in X number of days. If that were a valid argument, that would justify aborting every child, because no one knows what is going to happen after delivery.

It is moss-covered rocks like this that start the slippery slope to eugenics, as demented a belief system as there ever was. If you doubt me, read G.K. Chesterton’s “Eugenics and Other Evils.” That book, with the appendix of many of the papers issued in the first half of the 20th century in support of eugenics paints that debate in the exact diabolical and evil light that it tries to hide with pretty colors.


31 posted on 12/18/2011 2:22:48 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival. (Karl Denninger has jumped the shark. Do not visit his blog.))
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To: SeekAndFind
Such an attitude,” he writes, “is shameful and utterly reprehensible, since it presumes to measure the value of human life only within the parameters of ‘normality’ and physical well-being, thus opening the way to legitimizing infanticide and euthanasia as well.”

It is no stretch to say that what he condemns as the view of National Socialism. What was the Aryan to them but the "normal", healthy and hearty human being.

32 posted on 12/18/2011 2:42:31 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: Jaidyn

A couple in my wife’s church lost twins close to full term. The babies were each wrapped in a blanket and held by the mother and members of the family including their five year old brother until they were taken away to be prepared for burial. May God’s grace forever sustain this family.


33 posted on 12/18/2011 2:47:12 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: lyby

Thank you.


34 posted on 12/18/2011 4:56:38 PM PST by Grunthor (Unrepentant breeder.)
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To: Grunthor

And my daughter, Rachel, says, “Bless you and your newborn-to-be baby!! I told her about this link...and although she has heard “the story” about her before, she is now of an age where YOUR story has meaning!! GOD BLESS!!!


35 posted on 12/18/2011 8:03:53 PM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: Grunthor

And my daughter, Rachel, says, “Bless you and your newborn-to-be baby!! I told her about this link...and although she has heard “the story” about her before, she is now of an age where YOUR story has meaning!! GOD BLESS!!!


36 posted on 12/18/2011 8:03:56 PM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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