Posted on 12/23/2011 12:33:44 PM PST by rzman21
God has a double claim of ownership on the believer who is truly in Christ.
That makes Him responsible for the Christian in all areas of life.
He is certainly capable of handling keeping a believer on the straight and narrow, certainly way better than I can do for myself.
There is such security in trusting God that way.
Well, I'm sure that if someone really wants God to judge them on their works, God will oblige.
I can't imagine WHY anyone would want to take that chance, but if they reject the finished work of Christ on the cross and His righteousness that is imputed to them, I guess there's not much other choice.
That's the beauty of trusting in Christ. Even if we are judged by our works, since the believer is clothed in Christ, when God sees him, all He see is the perfect righteousness of Christ and we're in anyway.
No, that's not true. When you sin, you sin.
It does not affect one's standing as a child of God who has been transferred into the kingdom of the Son he loves and who has sealed us with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption.
If salvation is lost and gained on a minute by minute basis of what we do, it is a works based salvation. There is and indeed can be no trust in Christ. It's all trust in self. The focus is all on the sinner and what he does and does not do, not what Jesus has done. The wrong person gets all the credit for the person being saved.
No, that's not true. When you sin, you sin.
This is a great example of the division between traditional Christianity from 2000 years ago and the innovations of the Reformation. Christianity has always believed that the performance of sin separates man from God from man's own volition.
It does not affect one's standing as a child of God who has been transferred into the kingdom of the Son he loves and who has sealed us with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption.
Also a great division between traditional Christianity and the innovations of the Reformation. You guys think that 'sealing' means putting into God's Baggie. The meaning really is that God has put his mark on us (sealing wax) as intent on his part. It usually went on letters or other communications as proof of the intent of the sender (usually the king or other elevated official). It in no way implied any responsibility on the receiver. That is something else that the Reformation did. It introduced the idea that Biblical language and ideas could be jettisioned in favour of the bias of the culture and times.
Much of current Protestant thought in the US comes about when those Protestants think of the language in the current year's current American culture. When you cease to look at historical writings through historical eyes, you cease to comprehend the meaning; and it is graduated by the distance of one's bias from the writers' intents.
A version of Calvinist lite. Nobody is responsible for anything, but the rewards flow and one may revel in them and sneer at those who don't believe trite and inane schoolyard fantasies.
God made me and God bought me with a price.
Do you disagree with either the creation of people by God or their redemption?
You do understand what redeeming something is, don’t you?
That gives Him two claims of ownership on my life. There is security in knowing that I am His and because of that He cares for me.
How is that Calvinism lite?
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