This post is sneaky, delusional and desperate. I can't debate someone who has lost the sense of reality. The cult is strong with this one.....
Posted on 12/24/2011 8:59:19 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
Mrs. Scoutmaster and I are having dinner tomorrow night with one of my Assistant Scoutmasters and his wife. I love the man and his wife. And kids. His daughter-in-law. His grandchild. His son and my son shared their Eagle Scout ceremonies. I love his family. Heck, he is family. He's been my assistant for nearly two decades. We've already exchanged our Christmas gifts with them.
He's a Mormon. He's never been called to be a leader for his LDS unit (he doesn't have a Temple recommend - I could explain why, if you would like to know). So he volunteers with us. We probably have kids from at least a dozen different denominations in the Troop right now, including B'hai.
Anti-Mormon? No. I'm closer to him than a brother and he's Mormon. Anti-Mormonism? Lying for the Lord is the kind of stuff that gets to me about Mormonism. Thanks for the stereotype.
Yes, Saundra, this post seems a bit fruity, desperate but very fruity.
This post is sneaky, delusional and desperate. I can't debate someone who has lost the sense of reality. The cult is strong with this one.....
Paragon? Are you back?
Continues to crush freedom of speech?
Way back on November 21, I responded to your joyful announcement of the new MormonVoices initiative (one manned by regular Mormons to clear misconceptions, an Ask a Mormon! site) by asking you “What does Mormonism teach about Mormons becoming gods and having their own planets to populate with spirit children?”
You've had free speech on Free Republic since November 21, thanks to Jim Robinson.
The answer to my question's been a little unclear since Maureen Dowd asked essentially the same question of Richard Bushman, the Visiting Professor in Mormon Studies at Claremont Graduate University, and Kent P. Jackson, Associate Dean of Religion at Brigham Young University.
It's your time for free speech, Saundra. It has been since November 21. What does Mormonism teach about exalted Mormons becoming gods and having their own planets to populate with spirit children?
I don't need anyone else to answer, certainly no one you would consider anti-Mormon. Speak out. Jim Robinson has presented us with this wonderful forum. It's free speech. No restrictions. Speak out, Saundra.
When they do, they read LDS literature to one another to get back into the Mormon way of thinking...
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In other words, the “Caucus” guidelines apply to every other religious persuasion EXCEPT The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.”
Perfectly reasonable, since it was Mormons who used a caucus designation to attack Christianity.
Be responsible
Don’t abuse the rules
Whine less
Man up
Don’t lie
Give up the liberal reliance on claiming to be a victim
... In other words, be a conservative!
PS - if you ever find any facts, evidence, or logical support for Mormonism, try posting it. In more than 6 years I’ve never seen any from a Mormon posting on FR. That speaks volumes.
condescend |ˌkändəˈsend| verb [ intrans. ]
show feelings of superiority; patronize : take care not to condescend to your reader.
• do something in a haughty way, as though it is below one's dignity or level of importance :
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So, this is how they view Jesus? Sounds more like the elites in the mormon church.
I ask you sincerely to delete this entire thread where the anti Mormon dog pile has destroyed any hope of fair and free speech? I would very much appreciate it. Thank you and Merry Christmas.
Translation, people have been speaking out against my cult and I don't like it, so I want to hide their free speech since it is not what I wanted...
The irony of that comment is awesome SD!
Good job!
BTW Sandy, there is a great way to have this cease being an issue. Step into the light. You were a good conservative and at one time on of God's own. What are you really wasting it for, a pretty building full of phony people and or robots spouting the lies of con men? Are the very real and obvious lies of the LDS really worth this? Really? I mean you can't even answer basic questions put to you about this "faith" that has sucked you in. You ever think there is a reason for that?
And don't even get me started on Romney, that guy is not worthy of a once great conservative.
Come on wake the heck up...
I ask you sincerely, and I feel most posters on this thread would agree, that this thread NOT be deleted. Rather than fair and free speech be destroyed, it is the perfect example of the freedom of speech allowed on this forum.
Jim, it is your call of course, but I would like to see this thread stand. If people can't handle debate, then that is their issue. JMHO.
You are free to reply to the Pro-Christians at any point. Many of us are interested and waiting patiently for your answers..........
Sandy,
I understand your frustration, I do. When I was LDS I would ask questions and get the same pat responses. However, I got frustrated by how other LDS couldn’t or wouldn’t defend their faith, which is why I set out to be a Mormon apologist. I believed I could do better than what I was hearing. I believed Mormonism could be defended intellectually and Biblically.
Before I was LDS I had a professor state something to me that stuck with me, this is partly why I got so frustrated with the lack of real defense of Mormonism. She said “A faith that is not able to be defended, is a faith that is not worth having”. Please, think about that. Rather than cry ‘foul’ and play victim, try defending Mormonism, try proving us wrong. Do yourself a favor and really look at the claims we make, read the Bible all the way through, don’t just repeat what you are told by other LDS, try to really prove Mormonism true intellectually and Biblically IN CONTEXT. See if it stands. Defend your faith outside of what you are told. Your eyes will be opened.
I know it is scary, because there is a chance that you will lose your faith in Mormonism, but if you really believe in Christ and the doctrines you post here, then losing Mormonism won’t hurt you at all rather it will free you and that is what all of us ‘antis’ want.
Mormons are the epitome of ‘free speech for me and not for thee’.
It would a shame to delete this thread. This has to be one of the best threads to show the world what Mormonism really is and how they view Jesus.
It is also the perfect example of why we should be careful when using archaic definitions in our writing.
Pretty much. One of the ways LDS leadership keep the rank and file in line is by threatening them that if they do too much research or read non-LDS literature (esp religious), then they will ‘think themselves out of the Church’ or ‘lose their testimony’. Last year (IIRC) one of their leaders at conference stated that the goal of ‘antis’ was to make them lose their ‘testimony’ of the ‘restored Gospel’ and ‘Joseph Smith’. My response? Yep that is exactly my goal - to get people out of Mormonism and to Christ.
Why do seemingly smart mormon people refuse to do any homework when it comes to their faith? I read up on what the atheists are saying then go on to see if there is any truth it.
Why are Mormons afraid to test their faith?
Are they afraid of what they might find?
What was it like when you first started doubting the Mormon church?
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