Skip to comments.Cremation (vanity question)
Posted on 12/26/2011 11:52:08 AM PST by Dallas59
Question on Cremation. Does the Bible say anything about it? Is it forbidden?
The dead don't care.
I say, whatever works for the survivors ought to be good enough for the rest of the world.
This is a gross question, but what about people who were eaten by wild animals?
Neither old nor new testament scripture places any unique requirements on burials. Over the centuries, traditions have arisen but they are just traditions. Scripture doesn't care as to whether a person wishes to have their body deposited in a composting machine, incinerated or stuffed, mounted and placed on display in a museum.
The bible is a book of fables, written by people who had nothing to do with Christ.
Follow your heart, and do what suits you.
Being a Catholic, I researched this. Apparently the Church is alright with the practice as long as the remains are held together. So, so much for my plans of being scattered over Venice Beach...
My smart ex-wife had a novel idea for the ashes of the departed: have a bust fashioned of the person cremated, using the ashes of the deceased. They would make great ‘garden companions’ don’tchaknow. Never talking back, good listeners, too.
The bible is a book of fables, written by people who had nothing to do with Christ.Really? Just wow.
If those motives do not apply, and there is a legitimate reason to want to cremate a body (like in Japan, where there is practically no land available for cemeteries), cremation is allowed if the remains are treated reverently.
“Dust thou art, to dust returnest,
Was not spoken of the soul.”
Burial in sacred grounds is the correct choice, either as an intact body or ashes, iirc.
And the most comforting thing I can say is “Do not speak of him/her as being gone. Speak of them with the same casual voice, for they are only in the next room, they hear your heart.”
I don’t beleive the catholic Church any loger frowns on cremation. They do frown onthe spreading of ash’s and suggest they be buried or kept on Sacred ground.
I’ve always felt so protective over the remains of a loved one, and I suspect I’m not alone. You know they’re not there anymore, but it’s all there is of them in this world, so all the loving care that you can afford to lavish is an easy sell, and the funeral service people know it.
The first death of a close loved one I ever experienced was that of my paternal grandmother. She was a simple woman, who chose a simple funeral, a cappella hymns sung by her lifelong friends in the Primitive Baptist Church her great uncle founded. But still, the flowers just rained down even though she would have disapproved, she was well known and well loved.
I came home from college to attend, and was a pall bearer for the first time. It began to snow during the graveside service. All I could think of driving back was that it was snowing on her flowers, and how sad that was. She’d have been embarassed, but she did lover her flowers in life.
All manner of peculiar things go through ones’ mind during times like that. I actually don’t remember a great deal about my father’s funeral, I’m pretty sure I was in shock the entire time. Just the thought of standing in a receiving line caused me to feel as if I would pass out. I didn’t. It was not an easy thing to make it through, though.
Is that the place next to the bait shop?
Many find comfort in different ways.
He wasn't cremated, but crucified, died and was buried (not that you should be crucified).
That's the way I'm going. I want to be buried.
It's next to the new EMS ambulance barn.
Fails to inspire confidence in their EMS abilities but the logistics are sound.
That’s just crazy. Once the soul has departed, the corpse is nothing but dead meat. It is no longer the Temple of anything.
Of course, the multi-million-dollar Catholic cemetery business would go bust if the Church taught otherwise.
Everything in the Catholic Church comes down to money.
Cremation costs about a thousand bucks.
A traditional Catholic funeral with 3 days of waking, Church ceremony, and burial comes close to $10,000 (for a moderate bash).
Wouldn’t that have made the Resurrection a little different?
Good call! LOL!
>>The bible is a book of fables, written by people who had nothing to do with Christ.<<
What goes around, comes around.
If you are looking for peace, best to spread good will. Slamming the beliefs of Christians is not kind and will not make you feel any better in the long run.
Are you telling me one who is burned to death in a auto accident, house fire, ect,will not go to heaven? I would think one strong in their Christian faith that it wouldn’t make a difference.
Manure, as in fertilizer.
Monty Python - Undertaker Sketch
Is there a Biblical prohibition of cremation? If not, it’s a creation of man - not God. And hence there is NO bigotry involved in pointing it out...
Just unrighteous indignation at the revealing of truth.
I’ve always been partially to being launched into the sun myself....I can come back to warm those I love and give skin cancer to those who were not so nice ;)
Yes, and just think of the thousands buried at sea! Food for the fishes. All those swept away by tsunamis; drowned and eaten by sharks in WW2; fishermen lost at sea throughout the ages.
It’s about time people brought some common sense to this issue.
OH!!!! Silly me.... ;-)
My mother passed away this past November and was cremated. There was no objection from the Catholic Church at all. And we happen to live in the Arch-Diocese of Arlington, VA, probably the most conservative Arch-Diocese in the Western Hemisphere!
“I would have mine sprankled on the tomatos so that everyone could eat me...”
Yeah, firewood don’t cost much up there, especialy after all the dead trees this summer.
But Christ was "buried" in a tomb ABOVE GROUND. Not quite what we think of as a "burial".
Cremation is frowned upon because fire and burning have always negative connotations in the Bible. (This is why heretics were burned at the stake.) My pastor recommends against cremation, but he says it won’t affect your salvation.
Plenty of saved Christians have died in fire through history (martyrs, 9/11, house fires, etc) and there is no doubt they are with Our Father and His Son.
Don’t be so hard on yourself. Get on one of those religion threads. Plenty there to beat you without Mercy.
Actually none of it is based on that at all.
The reasons that the Catholic Church originally opposed it was due to Masonic belief/ practices. Cremation was seen as a denial of the Bodily Resurrection which the Catholic Church has always taught will occur at the end of time.
You see this belief in the Apostles creed: I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting. Amen.
As well as the Nicene Creed:We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
>>Of course, the multi-million-dollar Catholic cemetery business would go bust if the Church taught otherwise.<<
Peace on Earth, good will to men.
My dad died in 1982. He was cremated and buried in a Catholic cemetary. 300.00 for the plot, 275.00 for the cremation and 50.00 to bury him.
My mom died in 1989. She was cremated and buried in the SAME PLOT (there is room for 4 more cremanes) The price went up to 500.00 for the cremation and still 50.00 to bury her.
So while you think it’s “all about money in the Catholic Church” I can count on myself, my husband and each of my children going into that plot for a big ole 200.00.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to find out some facts before posting insults.
Of course, the multi-million-dollar Catholic cemetery business would go bust if the Church taught otherwise.Bigotry never goes out of style, does it?
Everything in the Catholic Church comes down to money.
The bible speaks of “the Spirit/spirit” which is other than the human body..
What exactly the spirit is no one knows.. (completely)
But the human body is indeed “transportation”.. among other things.
Roy Rogers had Trigger stuffed!!.. Why not?..
For the religious services, nobody said one word about cost: not one word even about a "suggested donation." We finally --- just on our own initiative --- gave the choral director $25 for the benefit of the choir's expenses: she was utterly surprised and said nobody had every done that before.
You are quite mistaken, my friend.
They still have those. You don’t have to be buried underground.
>>probably the most conservative Arch-Diocese in the Western Hemisphere!<<
Cool - so it’s not based on Biblical passages but creeds written several centuries after Jesus’ time. And nothing about the Church owning the only “approved” places for burial for hundreds of years...
Cut rate Viking ship cremations.
[earthly wealth, chattel and wives, extra]
One thing is for sure if it’s okay in the Bible the atheists /left-wing fanatics will find a way to disallow it.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to find out some facts before posting insults.Bigotry and facts are never friends. Bigotry never says "I am sorry", never says "I was wrong". Bigotry simply exists, like Original Sin.