Posted on 12/26/2011 6:08:22 PM PST by rzman21
You're thinking of C++.
Don't we all, whether or not we claim otherwise?
Volapük was a man-made language. Did God, as you think you know him, knew it before it was invented?
i answered the question in #47 and posed a straight forward question to you.
can you answer it?
Second,
The emphasis used results in a universe of difference.
Catholic version:
MY soul magnifies the Lord,
And MY spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
True version:
My soul magnifies THE LORD
And my spirit rejoice in GOD MY SAVIOR
For HE has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed [of GOD].
God has no "mother," otherwise, he would have a conception, a beginning.
Your statements prove my point perfectly.
you are correct, Jesus Christ established the Church and it has been here for 2,000 years.
men have created other churches, but not with Divine Authority.
And that man was Jesus Christ.
or What was the purpose of the Ekklesia ? Was it a temporal corporation to rule on earth ? No ! Was it to have a temporal head ? No ! It was a gathering of YHvH's chosen people to hear His Word ? and learn to Fear YHvH all their days ? And to teach their children the same ? Yes. ------------- Ekklesia is from the Hebrew Qahal (kop, hey, lamed) How does YHvH define "church" i.e.Ekklesia ?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Is it all those called out by YHvH ?
A study of the word "church", in the Koine Greek : Ekklesia.
Was the "church" started at the YHvH commanded
Feast day of Shavuot (pentecost) as some say ?
Did the "church" exist earlier ?
Using the LXX as a guide we see that the Ekklesia
is first used in Deuteronomy 4:10 NAsbU Deuteronomy 4:10 "Remember the day you stood before YHvH, your God
Also see : Deu 4:10, Deu 9:10, Deu 18:16, Deu 23:3, Deu 23:4, Deu 23:9, Deu 31:30,
at Horeb, when YHvH said to me, 'Assemble the people to Me, that I may let
them hear My words so they may learn to fear Me all the days they live on
the earth, and that they may teach their children.'
Jos 9:2, Jda 20.2, Jda 21:5, Jda 21:8, Jdg 20:2 Jdg 21:5, Jdg 21:8, 1 Sa 17:47,
1 Sa 19:20, 1 Ki 8:14, 1 Ki 8:22, 1 Ki 8:55, 1 Ki 8:65, 1 Ch 13:2, 1 Ch 13:4, 1 Ch 28:2,
1 Ch 28:8
which is haQahal The assembly (hey, kop, hey, lamed)
In scripture it is always used to describe
those who have been assembled by YHvH.
It begins in Exodus 16:3 ( the bread from heaven )
and continues to Nehemiah 8:17 (living in Booths) NAsbU Nehemiah 8:17
The entire assembly of those who had returned from
the captivity made booths and lived in them.
The sons of Israel had indeed not done so
from the days of Joshua(Yehoshua)
the son of Nun to that day.
And there was great rejoicing.
Yes.
I was agreeing with you.
You are saying that Christ, the Son of God, has no mother?
Do you have the book of Luke in your Bible? Or do you choose to ignore it?
I’m a convert, so I started from the other POV. My family still is Protestant. I’ve gotten used to having to defend my faith to them.””
I understand.. I have found that it is far better to understand their own doctrines better than they do, then it is easy to guide them along my path leading elsewhere. This can be done using the Socratic method of teaching and involves minimal conflict.
“you are correct, Jesus Christ established the Church and it has been here for 2,000 years.”
Thats not what I said. I said a man created the Catholic church just as other men claim it is the only way to salvation.
Another man created the Baptist Church.
The Church referred to in the Bible is comprised of those who have accepted Jesus as their Savior. Not to people who walk into one building vs another. Certainly not a specific building with gold inlays and statues of dead people.
There is only one Church that Jesus created and doesn’t bear an earthly name.
let’s look at the fruit of the doctrine of “sola scriptura”
( by their fruits you will know them )
in the town next to mine, there is the main intersection that has an Anglican Church, a Baptist Church, a Presbyterian Church and i believe an Assembly of God Church. all 4 at the same intersection, all 4 claiming to be Christian, all 4 with opposing doctrines from one another, all 4 using the same Bible, all 4 claiming sola scriptura, all 4 do not worship with each other and all 4 disregarding John 17.
I'm trying to resist laughing out loud over the irony in your question.
Please carefully and prayerfully read John 16:13-15. The answer you seek is right there in black and white, straight from the mouth of Jesus.
The other scriptures I posted (John 14:16-26) are also quite good. Your question/argument is with the Word (Jesus) not me.
The Holy Spirit and the Word is more than enough for the sincere Believer who is seeking wisdom and truth.
Thanks for your words of wisdom.
who is this man that “created” the Catholic Church, in your opinion?
he must have been quite a man!!
“God has no “mother,” otherwise, he would have a conception, a beginning.”
Right. In your tiny little world. To almost all of Christendom you are wrong, now and since His Nativity, born of the Virgin Mary.
I think you're claiming far too much knowledge when your assumptions prove you have almost none.
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