Posted on 12/26/2011 6:08:22 PM PST by rzman21
ok, let’s look at “sola scriptura” from another angle.
from the Scriptures alone, please tell me what the correct canon of Scripture is? is there an inspired table of contents that we can refer to or is there one book of the Bible that lists all the canonical books?
You are begging the question. What I believe about the Old and New Testaments has nothing to do with whether or not the Bible alone is the sole rule of faith for Christians.
My question for you is where the Bible rejects ecclesiastical authority.
“but since that’s NOT in the Bible, it doesn’t make any sense.”
Using that logic no other books could be used. I’m not putting words in your mouth, I’m telling you what your words mean.
“If it was that important to God to have us not be confused, then why didn’t the Holy Spirit include it?”
So you think God wants us to be confused? That he wants his message to be too complex for the common man to understand? Really?
You don’t understand the premise of using Gods Word as the ultimate authority?
The Doctrine of Sola Scriptura is not taught anywhere in the Bible
and neither is the sale of “Indulgences”...a documented Fact that the Catholic church sold these...was that ‘divine
revelation’ from the Priests?
The Catholic Church’s Doctrine changes with the wind.
My God does. In fact He speaks every dialect known to man.
Settle that amongst your own, the Copts, the Ethiopic Church, the Greek Orthodox, the Russian Orthodox, et al, close the open questions left from the Council of Trent and then get back to us, OK?
Catholicism depends on you feeling guilty beyond redemption, looks like it worked in your case.
>>That’s Jansenism, not Catholicism.
I’m not an Augustinian, so I focus on God’s mercy rather than his wrath in the Eastern tradition.
Prideful aren’t you.
Esperanto, Volapük, COBOL?
Bingo!
Esperanto, Volapük, COBOL?
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.
(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)
That old argument? Well then anyone can just throw in their own books can’t they.
Not nearly enough to presume to have heard God and hector others about it.
“Using that logic no other books could be used. I’m not putting words in your mouth, I’m telling you what your words mean.”
I don’t know how to explain it any better than I have. In my opinion, Protestants do the exact same thing they accuse Catholics of doing.
“So you think God wants us to be confused? That he wants his message to be too complex for the common man to understand? Really?”
No, I believe that Satan wants us to be confused.
IS FALSE! As is many other items required by the Catholic church in Luther's time and now.
You've been taught not to understand it. When Jesus overcame temptation or false teachings, He rebuked them both with a "It is written". You can follow the example of the life of Jesus or stay with Catholic dogma.
Apparently God can create the Heavens and the Earth, but has trouble with English. Perhaps its just American English he has trouble with.
The WORD of G-d had been around for over 1500 years. Seek YHvH in His WORD ! This patently false on it's face !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
God doesn’t speak jive?
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