Posted on 12/28/2011 5:47:17 PM PST by rzman21
Good post faucetman...the Lord does keep it simple doesn’t He? It’s either about Him and to Him... or “something else” which distracts away from Him.
Good post faucetman...the Lord does keep it simple doesn’t He? It’s either about Him and to Him... or “something else” which distracts away from Him.
Grace of course.
“Catholics believe something because the Church tells them what to believe.”
This, of course, is baloney.
But I think you know that.
Might be the Lord is trying to get thru to you He doesn't want you doing such things. He did call the Israelites "stiffnecked" and so are those who resist His clear teachings not to do such things.
The verses in The Bible that he claims he had to ignore, I, as a non Catholic, born again Christian, have never ignored nor needed to ignore, but rather they harmonize perfectly in with my beliefs. The way he now needs to interpret those verses, he claims he had to ignore, is non sequitur. The verses themselves do not speak to his current Catholic doctrines, as they are clearly read, but rather he has been indoctrinated into reading into them the doctrines that the Catholic Church purports.
I would suggest that anyone who reads the Bible should go into a room by themselves with Almighty God, ask Him to illuminate His word, and read it without prejudice. You will not come out with most all of Catholic doctrine. Nor will you come out with Mormon doctrine, Jehovah Witness doctrine nor any other misguided religion's doctrines. Don't come out of the room until you know that it is Almighty God who has instructed you.
Because we can be subject to being brainwashed by whatever religion we are closely associated with, to prevent ourselves from being deceived, the only sure way we can know that we truly have the truth is to know that we have received it from The LORD Himself through His Word. Remember that Christ, when confronted with lies, said "It is written" and referred to Holy Scripture as the ultimate guide to all truth.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Your pointless repetition is getting old.
Why don’t you just say tell us what you mean.
You may not be as clever as you think.
“Regarding the debate about faith and works: It’s like asking which blade in a pair of scissors is most important.” C.S. Lewis
If your religion spends a fortune on gold regalia, robes, palaces and cathedrals (not to mention it’s own whole country)instead of on the starving children, maybe you are missing the message.
>>You establish a false dilemma. No institution cares for more poor people than the Catholic Church.
As Luther said himself:”Faith that is alone is not faith.”
The verses in The Bible that he claims he had to ignore, I, as a non Catholic, born again Christian, have never ignored nor needed to ignore, but rather they harmonize perfectly in with my beliefs. The way he now needs to interpret those verses, he claims he had to ignore, is non sequitur. The verses themselves do not speak to his current Catholic doctrines, as they are clearly read, but rather he has been indoctrinated into reading into them the doctrines that the Catholic Church purports.
I would suggest that anyone who reads the Bible should go into a room by themselves with Almighty God, ask Him to illuminate His word, and read it without prejudice. You will not come out with most all of Catholic doctrine. Nor will you come out with Mormon doctrine, Jehovah Witness doctrine nor any other misguided religion's doctrines. Don't come out of the room until you know that it is Almighty God who has instructed you.
Because we can be subject to being brainwashed by whatever religion we are closely associated with, to prevent ourselves from being deceived, the only sure way we can know that we truly have the truth is to know that we have received it from The LORD Himself through His Word. Remember that Christ, when confronted with lies, said "It is written" and referred to Holy Scripture as the ultimate guide to all truth.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Might be the Lord is trying to get thru to you He doesn’t want you doing such things. He did call the Israelites “stiffnecked” and so are those who resist His clear teachings not to do such things.
>>More circular reasoning on your part.
“I believe I Jesus, what religion am I?”
Mormon? They say that. Jehovahs Witness? Ditto. Seventh Daty Adventist? Yep them too.
So what sect do you call your own?
“I believe I Jesus, what religion am I?”
Mormon? They say that. Jehovahs Witness? Ditto. Seventh Day Adventist? Yep them too.
So what sect do you call your own?
But never was apostasy so good...
I became a Catholic for intellectual and theological reasons rather than I was sick of the PC in the ELCA.
And that is completely understandable to me...
I am confident that you would not make the claim that you called on Jesus to come into your life and trusted Jesus to be your Saviour while being a Protestant...
So that leaves you with a book and a religion that you can't relate to...What else could you do but hunt for people in the same position who claim to have knowledge about God and his religion that you could understand...The same intellectual knowledge you claim to have...
The thing you can't grasp that many Protestants and former Catholics know is that conversion is spiritual, not intellectual...
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
What person with any self esteem wants to have and would accept some person telling him that in the eyes of God, he's a useless piece of flesh and there's absolutely nothing he can do to merit heaven???
The article you post was good in the sense that it shows Catholics that by prayer, preaching and bible study they will find and come to Jesus...They move from the bondage of your religion right into the arms of Jesus Christ...
They develop a personal, spiritual relationship with the God of creation instead of a physical one where they must eat a wafer to have any (temporal) contact with Jesus...
A relationship where they know they can come and stand right there at the Throne of Grace in the presence of Jesus...With the confidence that Jesus listens to every word they speak...Without having to go thru another mediator to get there...
But thanks for the article...I think it will encourage Catholics to seek out the Lord of the scriptures...
I would assume you don't pigeon hole all Christians into that web...there are many who do not adhere to the name it claim it bunch...although even they do seem to get the Gospel message across. Unfortunately it's mingled with allot of other "stuff" similar to what the catholic church has in it's "other stuff".
The Priesthood was entirely filled in Christ as our great High Priest...there is no longer a need for the Priesthood. But some people have a need to have a go between since their faith in Christ is not enough to satisfy them in their thinking. ...makes one wonder then if Christ is enough to save them since He appears to need someone else as their mediator....so where then does that leave them? It would appear looking to man rather then to the Savior Himself...and that's guaranteed not to be sufficient to save a soul.
Not an ounce of truth to it...You are constantly rebutted with the writings of your own church fathers and tons and tons of scripture...
I don't agree with that as there are many "institutions" and organizations who do equally as well if not more effectively.
But thanks for the article...I think it will encourage Catholics to seek out the Lord of the scriptures...
>>And become good apostates and lose their salvation.
Catholics already have the Lord of the scriptures, thank you.
In Evangelicalism, everything is subjective.
Works naturally follow salvation as it’s no longer I that lives but Christ who lives in me....It’s His works...not ours. We cannot claim an credit for any good which comes of us. We are simply the instruments He uses to accomplish His works....never ours.
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