and the rock (petra) was Christ.
It was "a" spiritual rock. It doesn't mean there is exclusively one rock. This particular rock was Christ.
The rock below is not Christ.
Posted on 01/11/2012 7:34:56 PM PST by RnMomof7
Mary: Mother of God?
This article is prompted by an ad in the Parade Magazine titled: "Mary Mother of God: What All Mankind Should Know." The offer was made for a free pamphlet entitled "Mary Mother of Jesus" with this explanation: "A clear, insightful pamphlet explains the importance of Mary and her role as Mother of God."
This is quite a claim, to say the least! Nowhere in the Bible is Mary said to be the mother of God. I touched on this subject in a series on "Mary Co-Redeemer with Christ" printed recently.
Question: If Mary is the Mother of God, Who, may I ask, is the Father of God? Does God have a Father, and if He does, Who is His Mother?
The phrase "Mother of God" originated in the Council of Ephesus, in the year 431 AD. It occurs in the Creed of Chalcedon, which was adopted by the council in 451 AD. This was the declaration given at that time: "Born of the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God according to the Manhood." The purpose of this statement originally was meant to emphasize the deity of Christ over against the teaching of the Nestorians whose teaching involved a dual-natured Jesus. Their teaching was that the person born of Mary was only a man who was then indwelt by God. The title "Mother of God" was used originally to counter this false doctrine. The doctrine now emphasizes the person of Mary rather than the deity of Jesus as God incarnate. Mary certainly did not give birth to God. In fact, Mary did not give birth to the divinity of Christ. Mary only gave birth to the humanity of Jesus. The only thing Jesus got from Mary was a body. Every Human Being has received a sinful nature from their parents with one exception: Jesus was not human. He was divine God in a flesh body. This is what Mary gave birth to. Read Hebrews 10:5 and Phil 2:5-11.
Please refer to Hebrews 10:5 where we see. "...Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me."
The body of Jesus was prepared by God. In Matthew 1:18, "she was found with child of the Holy Ghost."
The divine nature of Jesus existed from before eternity, and this cannot be said of Mary Jesus never called her "mother". He called her "woman".
This doctrine deifies Mary and humanizes Jesus. Mary is presented as stronger that Christ, more mature and more powerful that Christ. Listen to this statement by Rome: "He came to us through Mary, and we must go to Him through her." The Bible plainly states that God is the Creator of all things. It is a blasphemous attack on the eternity of God to ever teach that He has a mother. Mary had other children who were normal, physical, sinful human beings. In the case of Jesus Christ, "His human nature had no father and His divine nature had no mother."
It is probably no coincidence that this false doctrine surrounding Mary was born in Ephesus. Please read Acts 19:11-41 and see that Ephesus had a problem with goddess worship. Her name was Diana, Gk. Artemis. You will not have to study very deep to find the similarities between the goddess Diana and the Roman Catholic goddess, Mary. It should be noted that the Mary of the 1st century and the Mary of the 20th century are not the same. Mary of the 1st century was the virgin who gave birth to the Messiah. Mary of the 20th century is a goddess created by the Roman Catholic Church. A simple comparison of what the Bible teaches about Mary and what the Roman Catholic Church teaches about her will reveal two different Marys. Mary is not the "Mother of God." If she were she would be GOD! There is only one true, eternal God. He was not born of a woman. Any teaching on any subject should be backed up by the word of God. If it cannot be supported by Scriptures, it is false doctrine.
How about this, stfassisi: "Preach the word: be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine." 2 Tim. 4:2.
Unfortunately for you stfassisi, mm is not doing as it appears you would like her to do: Sit down and shut up.
Fortunately for US, she is doing exactly what God wants her, and all believers to do: as the above Scripture notes.
You are simply the ‘Pope’ of your own church. & You interpret things to suit your own purposes. + You ‘project’ on to other people by telling other people ‘what they think.’
Please keep reading the Bible & please read the documents of the Catholic Church. Please pray for the Christian Virtues of Faith, Hope, and Love. Especially, Love as everything is meaningless without it.
Besides, I’d lay money, and lots of it, on the fact that every young Jewish girl who was a virgin was dreaming of the privilege of being the mother of the Messiah.
You think God wouldn’t have had lots of takers on that offer, or that any of the other ones would have refused?
What girl in her right mind would turn down what God said He was going to do for her?
Really...What is Peter's legacy??? What is revealed in scripture of the leadership of Peter that you are following???
What are the hallmarks of Peter's leadership that you are presenting to the world???
Peter was commissioned to preach to Jews, to convert them to become Christians...
Why is it not the focus of your religion to search out Jewish conclaves and to preach to the Jews, only???
Armchair psychology. Cute.
Living life around FR replaces a church instead to some people.
It's actually a golden calf like alcohol is to an alcoholic.
Oh, and do you tell that to the Catholics as well who post that often?
And if your retired suffering from Post Polio syndrome without the ability to walk but a few feet? How about if you have all of that and it’s cold outside and cold makes the symptoms worse? How about if God has put you in the position to give you the time others may not have to defend the faith in a forum such as this? Are you the arbiter of all acts and lifestyles? Do you take it upon yourself to instruct all on how they should structure their life? Could you maybe post the directive from God where He told you to tell others what they should be doing with their life?
Let's not forget a salient point here, stonehouse, Catholicism teaches Mary was "Immaculately Conceived", meaning she was born without sin AND that she never sinned after she was born her entire life, that's what you believe, right? So, if Mary had "free will" and she could have said no, why was she made "sinless"? Would it have been retroactive? Now, I fully believe that we have free will to choose or reject the grace of God, but I seriously don't believe God didn't know the outcome of this.
If Mary HAD said no, if she could have said no, would not God have another picked out and maybe we would have never even heard of Mary instead we would call, say, Hannah, blessed? So, I don't really see how one can give all the glory to Mary - who you said, "if she had said no the gates of heaven would remain closed" - if God either already had her picked out, or could have just as easily chosen another virgin more willing. Do you agree? I mean, God's will WILL be done will it not?
Accusations of *hate* are all that’s left in the arsenal when one has lost the debate.
I see it on the Mormon threads by the Mormons as well.
No one should post in excess unless it's about prayer and Devotions
Martyrs did not build any church...What if they were all martyrs??? There wouldn't have been any church...
Are you going to post the directive you received from God telling you that it was you who should tell people how to structure the time God gave them?
and the rock (petra) was Christ.
It was "a" spiritual rock. It doesn't mean there is exclusively one rock. This particular rock was Christ.
The rock below is not Christ.
It’s all that control that Catholicism seems to engender.
So why are you here posting?
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
God operates by time...Until there is no longer time...Your religion's philosophy on the issue doesn't change a thing...A person can't read the bible and not know that...
You’re the only one talking about a directive you received from God.
Do you think this is what you’re doing here?
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