Posted on 01/11/2012 7:34:56 PM PST by RnMomof7
By trhe evidence in this thread, Catholics believe that Mary became sinless, and became a god.
Where is the “untruth?”
Matthew 9:9 As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collectors booth. Follow me, he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him.
Mark 3:17-19 James son of Zebedee and his brother John (to them he gave the name Boanerges, which means sons of thunder), Andrew, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James son of Alphaeus, Thaddaeus, Simon the Zealot and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him.
Luke 6:14-16 14 Simon (whom he named Peter), his brother Andrew, James, John, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James son of Alphaeus, Simon who was called the Zealot, Judas son of James, and Judas Iscariot, who became a traitor.
If one has the honesty to read it.
Care to be the first non-Catholic on this thread, or does it just feel better to believe Catholics teach polytheism?
placemarker
name one post that states Mary became a god.
by their fruits you will know them folks, and by the evidence in this thread, many hate the Church more than they love the truth.
cue the crickets for anyone that believes Mary became a god.
Another cool aspect that you probably know already is that Joseph adopted Jesus, and allowed for some critical lineages that were in Old Testament prophesy to be fulfilled.
Satan didn’t stand a chance, praise God!
The catholic heresy is not “The Church.”
The Church is all the believers, whever they may be. The catholic mess was born 300+ years after Christ ascended.
If you haven't heard it before, you might also be interested in The Easter Homily of St John Chrysostom
Near the end, starting with "Let no one fear death, for the Death of our Savior has set us free." is where I'm thinking of in regards to your post. Not the same but another view and aspect.
thanks again..
Wow, it’s amazing what you’ll believe without checking sources.
Josephus did NOT mention Semiaramis at all, nor any wife for Nimrod.
FURTHER, the word King James translates as “Queen” in “Queen of Heaven” is better translated “worship” : Meleketh. The word otherwise translated as “Queen” is “Malkah.” Although they have similar roots, from “Melekh,” meaning “king,” one connotes a female relative of a king, whereas the other connotes someone who sets herself as an object of worship. Having no bride, a king’s mother (the “Queen mother,” in British heraldry) would be Malkah. 1 Kings 15:13, King Asa’s mom is called “Malkah.”
Those called Malkah include Esther, Sheba, and Vashti, Asa’s Mom, Maachah, and Tahpenes, the pharoah’s wife.
Meanwhile, Meleketh only is only ever used to refer to the sky-god of Jeremiah, suggesting that James made a completely bad translation.
(Incidentally, Josephus is anti-Christian. Christians cite him merely because he provides the Jewish view of history, which confirms the bible against some Roman historians.)
Correction, I flipped those.
Josephs adoption created the Kingly lineage to David and Mary’s Priestly lineage.
I’m sorry, but where is the evidence on this thread that Catholics believe that Mary became a god?
LOL, i guess history isn’t your strong suit.
i’m still waiting for who believes Mary became a god.
does truth mean anything to you??
I will check it out. Being raised an Irish Catholic alter boy, I have no problem with the Godly teaching from my Catholic brothers.
Yes, of course. St. Paul wrote to “The First Methodist Church of 324 Appian Way, Rome.”
>> “but the Bible says it was really him” <<
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Of course it was really him, in his incorruptible body.
You’ve swallowed way too many camels!
Just exactly what we’ve all come to expect from you.
Wherever the bishop appears, there let the people be; as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is not lawful to baptize or give communion without the consent of the bishop. On the other hand, whatever has his approval is pleasing to God. Thus, whatever is done will be safe and valid. Letter to the Smyrnaeans 8, J.R. Willis translation
i guess St Ignatius writing 60 years after Jesus ascended and after being taught personally by St John didn’t get your memo about the catholic “mess” appearing 300+ years after Christ.
btw - do you agree with Joey Smith the Church went apostate in the 1st century? are you Mormon?
Both history and the Church in the New Testament seems to give some problems.
It’s hard to “see” the invisible-only church of each individual deciding his/her own scripture, interpretation, doctrine and teaching in either place. The church of the individual is barely a couple hundred years old, if that.
Actually, the term “Catholic” was used to describe the Church of the Bishops who traced their authority to the apostles, as early as the first century. The term means universal. The common understanding of this to mean, “worldwide” is incorrect. Actually, “Roman” was used to signify “throughout the Roman Empire,” which the Romans understood as “worldwide.”
“Catholic,” on the other hand, meant, “universal” in the sense of “objective.” The Gnostics believed that one could discern occultic (”hidden”) meanings of scriptures, and claimed visionary powers to know of events they did not witness. There is the mystery religion which so many Freepers love to rant about. “Catholic,” in contrast, meant that anyone could know the basic the tenets of the faith, and those tenets had the same meaning to everyone; it was a denial of “subjective reality.”
As such, by the 2nd century, the true Christians were citing their belonging to the “Catholic Church” as an appeal to the authority of the disciples and objective knowledge; the Catholic Church was the bishops’ church. In essence, the Catholics offered a choice: believe in the Gnostics, and who knows what you know what they may invent, or believe in the Catholics, and follow the bishops who openly assert their beliefs.
Again, building on my own post #678, the Catholic church was the “visible” church, as opposed to the Gnostic church, the “occultic” church.
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