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To: Jvette; caww
>>No, I don’t follow Replacement Theology and neither does the Church.<<

I think you need to study up on what the RCC actually says Jevette.

“The Catholic Church is Israel.” [http://catholicknight.blogspot.com/2011/01/catholic-church-is-israel.html]

Catholics acknowledge that the Church is spiritual Israel or, in Catholic parlance, the "new Israel" (cf. CCC 877)

877 Likewise, it belongs to the sacramental nature of ecclesial ministry that it have a collegial character. In fact, from the beginning of his ministry, the Lord Jesus instituted the Twelve as "the seeds of the new Israel and the beginning of the sacred hierarchy." Chosen together, they were also sent out together, and their fraternal unity would be at the service of the fraternal communion of all the faithful: they would reflect and witness to the communion of the divine persons. For this reason every bishop exercises his ministry from within the episcopal college, in communion with the bishop of Rome, the successor of St. Peter and head of the college. So also priests exercise their ministry from within the presbyterium of the diocese, under the direction of their bishop. [http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/877.htm]

The CC most certainly thinks they have replaced Israel.

1,263 posted on 01/14/2012 1:06:41 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

“The CC most certainly thinks they have replaced Israel.”

In your bizarro world maybe. Taking the point of view that Christmas and Easter are pagan, that the Catholic Church teaches idolatry and that Church on Sunday is a man made tradition without meaning (oh and do please correct me if I misunderstood your views, you are often obtuse and difficult to follow), well that odd - even bizarro - worldview makes it very difficult to accept any of your opinions about what the Universal Church teaches as having any probative value at all. Nothing personal, but really, why would you expect anyone with any understanding of true Christianity to take you seriously?


1,267 posted on 01/14/2012 1:12:19 PM PST by narses
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To: CynicalBear

****The CC most certainly thinks they have replaced Israel.***

That is not Replacement Theology. The passage never says that the Church has replaced Israel.

The use of the word collegial here demonstrates what the Church believes is our relationship to Israel. Just as Scripture tells us that we are now coheirs...

Ephesians 3 Brothers and sisters: You have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace that was given to me for your benefit, namely, that the mystery was made known to me by revelation. It was not made known to people in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit: that the Gentiles are coheirs, members of the same body, and copartners in the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

***the seeds of the new Israel***

The new Israel is the community of ALL believers, whether Jew or Gentile bound together under the New and Everlasting covenant which is Jesus Christ.

Those Jews living under the old covenant, while still heirs to the promises of God, have chosen to remain in the old rather than believe in Jesus. They are not part of the Church and they still exist, they have not been replaced.


1,268 posted on 01/14/2012 1:17:06 PM PST by Jvette
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To: CynicalBear

I didn’t think catholics believed in replacement theology???? Looks like they do....what’s the vatican saying about this?


1,323 posted on 01/14/2012 7:36:01 PM PST by caww
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