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Pope says uniting Christianity requires conversion
cna ^ | January 18, 2012 | David Kerr

Posted on 01/18/2012 3:19:15 PM PST by NYer

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To: dartuser

On the contrary, the historical record begins with the Bible, since the Bible itself is an historical record from apostolic sources. If the Bible refutes your position, which it does, ... then we are done.

>>The Bible never claims to be a complete historical record. Show me the exact verse where it does.

Stop begging the question.


281 posted on 01/19/2012 10:57:15 AM PST by rzman21
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To: smvoice

I did search the scriptures. I just realized that Protestantism IS tripe, period. End of discussion.

So what about the anathemas. The only thing Protestantism amounts to is an exit visa from Christian civilization.


282 posted on 01/19/2012 11:04:06 AM PST by rzman21
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To: smvoice

Tradition IS God’s word, written and unwritten.

If you have a problem with being under anathema, then that’s your problem. Not mine.


283 posted on 01/19/2012 11:06:01 AM PST by rzman21
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To: smvoice

All it takes is one individual who is willing to let someone else tell him what to believe.

>>Didn’t Satan say something like that? Protestantism has been a tool of the devil from what I have seen since I started thinking critically about Protestant scriptural arguments.

When will you question what other people have taught you about the Bible?


284 posted on 01/19/2012 11:12:22 AM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21
I didn't say anything about Liberation Theology! Show me where I did.

Do you also need a lesson in reading comprehension? I linked to both the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and The Missionaries of the Sacred Heart and both show evidence of supporting socialistic causes! Aren't both of these organizations recognized by the Catholic Church? Then I guess that what they are advocating is also supported by the Catholic Church. Did you even bother to look at the sites before commenting?

285 posted on 01/19/2012 11:16:52 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: johngrace

Nothing has anything to do with any “priest.”

There is no priest but Christ.

Its about mothers and fathers reading God’s word to their children.

Its about radio preachers reading God’s word to the masses

Its about getting really saved by believing on the Son of God, not eating a satanic ‘salvation cookie’ on sunday.

Its about learning to pray to the Father rather than worshipping dead humans.

Its about not entering any building that is festooned with Gold, Mammon, and Idols, and not calling that dungeon the house of God.

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286 posted on 01/19/2012 11:23:42 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor
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The First Church of Me,Myself,I and a mirror to interpret every little aspect of the "the word"!

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So I guess When Christ ascended into Heaven. The Apostles were just standing there while the angels handed out Clean Guttenberg presssed Bibles. It was not the Holy Spirit which brought forth a Church Then a Bible which is to be used by the same Church.

287 posted on 01/19/2012 11:52:44 AM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: rzman21
The Bible never claims to be a complete historical record.

This does appear to be the default answer.

I never said the Bible contains a complete historical record. But what it contains is sufficient. If there was something of importance, it would be in there. I am not talking specific words (I'm tired of the trinity cop out), but theological doctrine.

My point is that the primacy of Rome (which is certainly the most or one of the most important doctrines in RCism) would be in the Bible if it was important. And I mentioned that Revelation does not support an assumed Roman primacy for any of the churches in Revelation; nor does Christ even address the church at Rome or the supreme pontif (whoever it was in 95 AD).

You would think Jesus Christ would have something to say to the vicar of Himself if He had something to say to these 7 churches in Asia.

I guess I'm not really expecting an answer.

288 posted on 01/19/2012 11:52:44 AM PST by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: johngrace

It was truly an unholy spirit that founded the “catholic” church three centuries after Christ ascended into heaven. That ‘church’ has led untold billions into destruction.

Prior to that, Christians worshiped openly in accordance with the word of God, and held his appointed days in reverence.

The true worship will be restored; the Lord told us so in his Revelation.


289 posted on 01/19/2012 12:03:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor
"not eating a satanic ‘salvation cookie’ on sunday."

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Tell that to Jesus's face when you meet him.

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291 posted on 01/19/2012 12:23:13 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: dartuser

>> “I guess I’m not really expecting an answer.” <<

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Turn the crank, and the Jack-in-the-Box pops up - that’s all you get.


292 posted on 01/19/2012 12:37:59 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor
"That ‘church’ has led untold billions into destruction."

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Billions? You have that accountant's number Book somewhere?

293 posted on 01/19/2012 12:39:03 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

Jesus has already told all of us that in his word.

BTW, thanks for the free Idols.


294 posted on 01/19/2012 12:40:34 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: NYer

I was born a Catholic. My husband is a Protestant...when he had a heart attack...and blew a hole in his heart...the surgery lasted forever. My Mom talked to me...It was on the Feast day of St Jude Patron St. of desperate causes. St Jude got it done.


296 posted on 01/19/2012 12:49:16 PM PST by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: the lastbestlady
St Jude got it done.

So...you attribute the healing to St. Jude rather than to God. Just WOW! I'm glad that I'm not a catholic that gives glory and adoration to Saints and I instead give all glory and faith to Jesus as my Savior

297 posted on 01/19/2012 12:56:21 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

It must be fun to live in your head with peter pan and the Easter bunny.


298 posted on 01/19/2012 1:04:53 PM PST by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: the lastbestlady
You're the one that posted "St Jude got it done." - not me. You gave him the glory not God.
299 posted on 01/19/2012 1:21:05 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: dartuser

You keep begging the question and arguing from silence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

Your argument is illogical. Jesus said nothing about the Bishop of Rome, ergo the Roman primacy didn’t exist.

It is about as logical as the gay activists who say Jesus never mentioned “loving committed” homosexual relationships, so he doesn’t look down on them.

The Epistle of St. Clement of Rome to the Corinthians, regarded by tradition as the third Pope of Rome, was included by some early Christian writers as part of the New Testament for at least 400 years or more.

You can argue from silence all you like.


300 posted on 01/19/2012 1:30:58 PM PST by rzman21
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