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To: editor-surveyor
That is Paul’s point of view

No, it's teased out by some using some parts of Paul and not others and then ignoring contradictions in other scripture.

We can be pretty sure salvation was important to Paul, he wrote quite a bit about it. If his point of view was: "We are saved by faith alone," he almost certainly would have said so. But he didn't.

379 posted on 01/19/2012 9:30:41 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
We can be pretty sure salvation was important to Paul, he wrote quite a bit about it. If his point of view was: "We are saved by faith alone," he almost certainly would have said so. But he didn't.

No he didn't...We aren't saved by faith at all...What he said is:

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

We are saved BY grace, THRU faith, that it is a GIFT, a free gift, WITHOUT a single work on our part...

Now if you can't reconcile that with what James tells us, you don't have a clue what's on God's mind...Or how to get saved in this age...And you are being dishonest in my opinion by disregarding some scripture as though it doesn't exist to apparently sell your position...

401 posted on 01/20/2012 6:30:14 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: D-fendr

>> “No, it’s teased out by some using some parts of Paul and not others and then ignoring contradictions in other scripture.” <<

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There is only one verse in the entire Bible (in James) that can be twisted and contorted to support your fallacy of works based salvation. That is in contrast to the entire New Testament that says works based salvation is the lie of Satan.
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448 posted on 01/20/2012 12:16:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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