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Divers recover Madonna intact from shipwreck chapel
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Posted on 01/21/2012 8:28:34 AM PST by nuconvert

She was found inside the ship's chapel, submerged up to her shoulders, but in one piece. Fire department divers wrapped her in a white towel, and used a nylon belt to hold it in place so she would not be damaged as they pulled her out.

On Saturday, the plaster statue of the Madonna from the doomed Costa Concordia cruise liner stood in a white tent on the port of Giglio, still wrapped in the same towel.

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TOPICS: Current Events
KEYWORDS: concordia; costaconcordia; cruiseship; giglio; italy; madonna; napl

1 posted on 01/21/2012 8:28:40 AM PST by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

Now, if it were the OTHER Madonna, we’d be better off leaving her right where she was...


2 posted on 01/21/2012 8:30:21 AM PST by Tigerized (Occupy Wall Street? Go find the real culprits in the Capitol Building...)
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“The man in charge of the team which rescued the statue said he had taken the time to recover the relic when there were still 21 people missing because “it seemed like the right thing to do.”

“When we entered the crumbled churches around L’Aquila after the earthquake, we always recovered the sacred objects,”


3 posted on 01/21/2012 8:30:36 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Slings and Arrows; Darksheare; Salamander

This thread is going to be fun...


4 posted on 01/21/2012 8:32:08 AM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: nuconvert

Wow! You know, that’s really a frightening prospect. To think that they would look upon a relic as more valuable than a human being? I can’t help but be reminded of God’s word about how we worship the created rather than the CREATOR. I can just imagine drowning and some idiot starts swimming for me and then instead of rescuing ME as I gasp for air, he goes for the golden calf.


5 posted on 01/21/2012 8:33:08 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: nuconvert

What about the Madonna on the piece of toast in the dining room?


6 posted on 01/21/2012 8:33:53 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Grizzled Bear

I disagree. There is nothing fun or funny about this at all.


7 posted on 01/21/2012 8:33:53 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: nuconvert

Darn, now she’s going to go and ruin the Super Bowl halftime.


8 posted on 01/21/2012 8:35:09 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Paved Paradise
To think that they would look upon a relic as more valuable than a human being?

Who thinks that?

9 posted on 01/21/2012 8:36:57 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: nuconvert

***...so she would not be damaged as they pulled her out. **

They make it sound like this piece of cold plaster is a real living person, approaching the very fine line between veneration (as a representation of a living person) and worship of the plaster statue as a living person.


10 posted on 01/21/2012 8:38:29 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( P!$$ on the Taliban. Issue MORE BEER!)
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To: nuconvert

,,,,, DANG !!!!!!! I was real disappointed to read it was a statue . . .


11 posted on 01/21/2012 8:40:21 AM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: nuconvert

What’s the difference between Madonna (the singer) and a chapel?

Not every man has been inside a chapel.


12 posted on 01/21/2012 8:43:21 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Paved Paradise

If this happened the first few days of the search, I would agree with you. But the ship went down on Jan 13.

btw - they found another body today
http://news.yahoo.com/italy-divers-womans-body-stricken-ship-150832449.html


13 posted on 01/21/2012 8:43:21 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

BEWARE
OF
RECEIVING BLESSINGS
FROM THE VATICAN—
ITS CLERGY—ESPECIALLY THEIR POPES

Pope Pius IX sent the Golden Rose (“blessings”) to the King of the Two Sicilies, and in less than a year, he lost his crown and kingdom.

The same Pope sent his blessings to the Austrian Kaiser, and in less than a year, he lost Venetia and suffered defeat at Sadowa.

The same Pope sent the Golden Rose (“blessings”) to Queen Isabella of Spain, and in a short time, she lost her crown and died in exile.

He sent his Golden Rose (“blessings”) to the Empress Eugenie of France, and in less than a year, the Emperor and Empress lost their crowns, and both died later in exile, and their only son was killed by Zulus in Africa.

The Crown Princess of Brazil was blessed by the Pope, with the result that her baby was born deformed, and she died in exile.

The Pope blessed the Emperor of Mexico, Maximilian. He was dethroned and killed by his people.

The Pope blessed the Emperor’s widow. She became a hopeless maniac and died in exile.

The Pope blessed a steamer filled with nuns enroute to South America in 1870. It never reached its destination, every soul perishing.

The Pope blessed General Boulanger and in less than two weeks he was in exile, later committing suicide.

Mrs. Sherman, wife of the American General Sherman, received the Golden Rose (“blessing” from the Pope). It proved fatal, and she died soon after.

In 1895, the Archbishop of Damascus, at Vittoria, gave the Pope’s blessings to the Spanish troops and fleet, with the result, Spain lost two fleets and two armies.

In 1897, the papal nuncio blessed the grand “Charity” bazaar in Paris. Within five minutes, it was in flames and nearly 150 of the aristocracy perished, including the sister of the Empress of Austria.

The poor Empress of Austria received the Golden Rose (the “blessing” from the Pope). It was her death knell. She was murdered in Switzerland, her only son committing suicide previously and her nephew losing his throne subsequently, while Austria has ceased to exist as an Empire.

King Edward VII of Britain visited the Pope and received, as a mark of favor, a signed photograph of Pope Leo XIII. At once came news of a reverse to British troops in Somaliland, and the king’s health began to fail and was never restored.

The Pope blessed Lord Denbigh, the special envoy of the British Sovereign. That very day, disaster befell the British Army in South Africa—Lord Methuen being severely wounded, and the papists in Parliament cheered the news.

Princess Ena of Battenberg received the Pope’s blessing on her perversion and marriage, 1906. On the same day as the wedding, she narrowly escaped death at the hands of a Romish anarchist, some thirteen hapless victims succumbing, and eighty others being wounded. Her wedding garments were spattered with blood. One, at least, of her sons was afflicted bodily. May 29th, 1923, the Pope gave the Golden Rose (his “blessing”) to the Queen of Spain (Princess Ena of Battenberg). In May 1931, she, with her husband, King Alfonso XIII, lost their throne and fled Spain.

The Pope blessed Queen Natalie of Servia on her perversion in 1902. She ended her days as a fugitive in exile, her only son, the king, being murdered.

The Queen of Portugal, one of the Orleans, was blessed by the Pope. Her husband, the king, and her eldest son were murdered beside her in a carriage, and she and her surviving son escaped as exiles to England, throneless. Portugal has been a republic ever since.

In 1912, the Pope blessed the Titanic, and it sank on the maiden voyage.

In 1924, a rich English land owner, Dyer Edwards, turned papist. In 1926, he went to Rome, was “blessed” by the Pope, and in four days was dead.

In 1928, the Pope blessed the Italia airship and gave a cross to place on the North Pole. The result was fatal. The airship foundered and broke in two—half its crew being lost whilst General Nobile was severely injured and was later censured by an Italian committee. It was the greatest fiasco of that time.

After Mussolini had murdered the people of Abyssinia and sacked their country, the Pope blessed the Italians as “a great and good people.” Mussolini came to an inglorious end and was hung upside down and his body mutilated.

On July 2nd, 1963, President Kennedy of the U.S.A. was received and blessed by Pope Paul VI. He was assassinated, murdered, in Texas in November of that year.

One of the classic examples of the Pope’s blessings boomeranging is that of Pakistan and India. A few years ago, the Pope visited these two unfortunate countries, and while it is true, famine and flood are no strangers to these two countries, the fact remains that no disaster in living memory was so intense and destructive as the floods which struck those countries in the year of 1970, unless it be the present cholera epidemic.

One could go on and on enumerating cases as above, but there is enough listed to prove that they are not coincidental. Now, what of the CURSES of the Popes? Yes, they run in reverse, as the following one or two examples will demonstrate.

Pope Pius IX cursed King Victor Emmanuel, the liberator of Italy, and also the Italian Government that made Italy free and Rome its capital. The result has been the rise of Italy to the status of a modern civilized nation, and only suffered a set-back when the Pope blessed Mussolini and his troops.

Garibaldi was excommunicated by the Pope for all his patriotic endeavors, especially the overthrow of the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies. He became Italy’s hero, whose name was, and is, everywhere revered, and to whom noble monuments were erected.

The Papal curses, which the Popes leveled against Henry VIII, Queen Elizabeth, Sir Francis Drake and his merry men, brought untold blessings on England, while at the same time, Ireland was blessed by the “Man of Sin” and is even today suffering the consequences.


14 posted on 01/21/2012 8:48:19 AM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Rome2000

All I can say is “Oh PLEAAAASE your Holiness, BLESS BARACK HUSSEIN 0BAMA!!!” :)


15 posted on 01/21/2012 8:55:36 AM PST by mkjessup (I support the *NEWTerizer* - the only candidate who can and WILL Kick 0bama's AZZ!!)
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To: Tigerized

I clicked on this thread to see if anyone would make jokes about Madonna Ciccone, the famous singer who is known just by her first name.

Can’t wait to see how Madonna does at the Super Bowl halftime. I wonder what she will do to shock us all.

And then we’ll have a debate just like happened with Janet Jackson. The liberals will say it’s no big deal, whatever shocking thing happens, and that conservatives should get a life and lighten up and change the channel if they don’t like it.


16 posted on 01/21/2012 8:56:43 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Slings and Arrows

Isn’t he at the Pub...


19 posted on 01/21/2012 9:09:09 AM PST by null and void (Day 1096 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Rome2000

My parents received a Papal Blessing in 1958. They must have been cursed by it also. Believe it or not, 50 years later, they died.


20 posted on 01/21/2012 9:12:01 AM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Somewhere along the line, shocking public misbehavior became a substitute for talent. And the purveyors of popular culture have just lapped it right up.

How else can you explain the meteoric rise of rap and hip-hop, with their emphasis on crime, drug use, misogyny, outlandish excess, and materialism?

I never thought I'd live long enough to see the death of simple morality and the social contract. I was wrong.

21 posted on 01/21/2012 9:12:24 AM PST by Tigerized (Occupy Wall Street? Go find the real culprits in the Capitol Building...)
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To: Future Snake Eater
What about the Madonna on the piece of toast in the dining room?

That wasn't Madonna - that was Lady GaGa on the piece of toast.

22 posted on 01/21/2012 9:13:36 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Rome2000

Perhaps the Pope should bless people with the circus curse...”Break a leg!”


23 posted on 01/21/2012 9:27:10 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( P!$$ on the Taliban. Issue MORE BEER!)
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To: nuconvert

And the general John Q. Public does not understand the significance of that!


24 posted on 01/21/2012 9:29:10 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; nuconvert
...but the general "John Q." member of the Body of Christ DOES. And it doesn't bode well for Rome.
25 posted on 01/21/2012 9:35:11 AM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: Tigerized

Yeah, I was gonna say, considering her acceptance speech at the Golden Globes last week, they shouldn’t have bothered with the recovery.


26 posted on 01/21/2012 9:38:52 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: nuconvert

Breaking News: Madonna turns out to be a statue meant to represent the Madonna and not the real Madonna.


27 posted on 01/21/2012 9:41:22 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Proud RINOmney Denialist since 2007!)
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To: smvoice

I guess you have to run that by Christ at the moement of your death — why you did not respect and honor HIS mother, that is.


28 posted on 01/21/2012 9:46:50 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Paved Paradise

I seriously doubt that anyone is still drowning a week after the ship sank. This was a salvage effort, not a rescue.


29 posted on 01/21/2012 9:48:15 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Rome2000

1. I received a Papal Blessing from Pope Paul VI when I earned a special award in Girl Scouts, back in the 1970s.

I”m doing fine, except for an addiction to reading things on this one conservative website...

2. Pope John Paul II sent a Golden Rose to shrine of Our Lady of Chestokova (sp?). Poland has been doing pretty well ever since.

I like a tin foil hat theory as much as the next person, but m wondering if maybe perhaps there were other contributing causes to the downfalls and disasters which you mention?


30 posted on 01/21/2012 10:14:50 AM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: nuconvert
She was found inside the ship's chapel

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Like a sturgeon ....

31 posted on 01/21/2012 10:40:51 AM PST by mikrofon (Wrecked for the very next time ...)
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To: Chuckster

Still. What’s more important?


32 posted on 01/21/2012 11:48:46 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: nuconvert

You should agree with me anyway. If your mom, dad, or other loved one were dead, would you like to think that a “rescuer” went for the icon, vase, or other object or pulled your family member out. It’s indecent to do anything else, unless the objects were in the way. I can’t even believe this is something to debate.


33 posted on 01/21/2012 11:51:09 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: don-o

They grabbed the relic first, so that implies it took priority. If your loved one(s) is dead on a shipwreck or other scenario and they send in people to retrieve the bodies but they decide to haul out things while leaving your family member, how would YOU feel? Taking the statue out first showed a serious lack of feeling.


34 posted on 01/21/2012 11:55:28 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Grizzled Bear; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...

Put her back.



35 posted on 01/21/2012 1:03:39 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: null and void

*sigh* Mod ate my comment along with Rome2000’s. My poor legacy.


36 posted on 01/21/2012 1:10:11 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

It was the Chick thing to do...


37 posted on 01/21/2012 1:22:58 PM PST by null and void (Day 1096 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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38 posted on 01/21/2012 1:27:35 PM PST by narses
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To: null and void

A Chick flick?


39 posted on 01/21/2012 1:33:05 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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40 posted on 01/21/2012 1:57:39 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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41 posted on 01/21/2012 2:27:07 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: nuconvert

Lady Gaga was most disappointed.


42 posted on 01/21/2012 3:36:13 PM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: Paved Paradise

43 posted on 01/21/2012 5:59:35 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Slings and Arrows

GOOD ONE!!!


44 posted on 01/21/2012 10:25:12 PM PST by bitt (Socialism works great until you run out of Chinese money.)
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To: bitt

“I am merely a vessel through which genius flows.”


45 posted on 01/21/2012 11:06:29 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: nuconvert

For the last week I have been posting over at a world popular cruise thread CruiseCritic.com following the tragic events,

Well I can honestly say this, they are one paranoid crowd, sure there is a few every now and then but the moderators absolutely won’t allow any “outsiders” to question or ridicule the cruise industry, if you even mention owning your personal cruising boat you are shunned as being lower class, if you are educated in marine engineering and you start telling the internet juicy little facts about structural integrety or the stability factor of a modern day cruise ship (which is terrible) you are shunned.

If you offer up any controversial conjecture that could possibly make others start asking the same questions, you are shunned, all through this you might as well make duplicate posts as they will get deleted.

The cruise industry has its share of highly trained professionals, there are certain names that are of the highest caliber, but the way its transformed now these mega ships are nothing more than a floating theme park, casino, broadway revues, nightclubs and an excellent place to be confined with a couple other passengers that may have illnesses.

Its a waste of money, its designed to harvest your money, its designed to control you and when a disaster strikes the chances are becoming more often when it goes bad you are almost on your own. These mega ships are milking farms and we are the cows waiting to be milked, I sincerely hope my conservative friends realize my attitude, I once worked as an engineer and a deck officer.

Would I cruise? I would if I had that kind of dedicated funds but I would be very picky, probably a much smaller ship and one with the highest safety ratings. And a competent crew thats mostly english speaking.

One mans ego....the tragic aftermath.
Its the same as if Obama was Captain, but the ship is our country.


46 posted on 01/21/2012 11:41:14 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Eye of Unk

I have felt comfortable on smaller Holland America ships.


47 posted on 01/22/2012 4:39:23 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Paved Paradise

Shame on you! Where is your religious correctness! You are offending idol worshippers worldwide!

I wouldn’t doubt there are other, personal small statues to Mary that got left behind in passenger quarters. Those need to be retrieved pronto!

Vanity, vanity.


48 posted on 01/22/2012 10:03:00 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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